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So actually Lewis got a setting wrong and that was what fecked his brakes up.
Max bottled it. Bottle merchants the lot of them.Yeah no Max did nothing wrong other than be unlucky.
Agreed.They should always call them in 3 laps before the end and then do a standing restart for the last 3 laps to finish it off.
My feelings as well. As you say, the brakes may have let him down.feck, damn lewis. Credit for having the balls to go for it with overheating brakes. But thats what WC's do. If he had pulled that off.....
Bloody overheating brakes.
Glad for Perez and Vettel.
Looks that way, simple mistake.So actually Lewis got a setting wrong and that was what fecked his brakes up.
Well you'd normally think Renault is a bigger seat than Red Bulls second team, but they probably have a worse car (consistently)Unless Max leaves, there's no bigger team available seeing how Ferrari and Mercedes supposedly have their planned their future planned out.
Absolutely.Looks that way, simple mistake.
Wum.Max bottled it. Bottle merchants the lot of them.
He didn't get along with Binotto and it was clear that Ferrari were looking to move on with Leclerc.Vettel looks a happier and more relaxed guy in the Aston Martin this year. Could it be the pressure at Ferrari was getting too much for him?
Seems that waySo actually Lewis got a setting wrong and that was what fecked his brakes up.
He probably would take the Renault seat if offered it, not sure why they'll rather get an aging Alonso on their team, he's clearly not there long term.Well you'd normally think Renault is a bigger seat than Red Bulls second team, but they probably have a worse car (consistently)
So, clearly he had outlived his stay at Ferrari then. Nice to see him looking happier this year. Still a decent driver.He didn't get along with Binotto and it was clear that Ferrari were looking to move on with Leclerc.
Maybe the car just wasn't good enough. Also they favoured LeClerc. He did well under pressure at Red Bull?Vettel looks a happier and more relaxed guy in the Aston Martin this year. Could it be the pressure at Ferrari was getting too much for him?
Thought he said he accidentally hit the button on the restart which changed the brake balance.Proper season this one. Will be lots of pushing and the consequence will be mistakes and failures like today.
Early in the race red bull told Max or Perez to take care of one of the tyres. Forget which driver and tyre. I'd love to see what % Max's tyres were at failure.
Hamilton mentioned he thought he turned off magic mode and the pitwall said he did but it failed? Didn't quite catch it. Anyone?
He was able to unlap himself as a result of the safety car/red flag and so was with the pack when Hamilton went off at turn 1.Gutted to have missed this. Seems like an absolutely mental race.
Everything else aside, how the feck does Mazepin pit six times and finish ahead of Hamilton?
Was Verstappen and one of the rear tyres. Given Perez's tyres were fresher, he's better at managing them and he was at 10% on the graphic before Verstappen's let go, I'm guessing Verstappen's were in the same situation. Hamilton's rears were at 20% at the same point so he'd managed to keep a bit more in them.Proper season this one. Will be lots of pushing and the consequence will be mistakes and failures like today.
Early in the race red bull told Max or Perez to take care of one of the tyres. Forget which driver and tyre. I'd love to see what % Max's tyres were at failure.
Hamilton mentioned he thought he turned off magic mode and the pitwall said he did but it failed? Didn't quite catch it. Anyone?
Oh wow. I really wish they'd do more audio and add subtitles since they are on delay. Adds a lot to it.He was able to unlap himself as a result of the safety car/red flag and so was with the pack when Hamilton went off at turn 1.
Was Verstappen and one of the rear tyres. Given Perez's tyres were fresher, he's better at managing them and he was at 10% on the graphic before Verstappen's let go, I'm guessing Verstappen's were in the same situation. Hamilton's rears were at 20% at the same point so he'd managed to keep a bit more in them.
With Hamilton, he'd turned it off and then accidently turned it back on when changing gear and that cooked the brakes. Watching the onboard you can see that at the restart he got away like a rocket but actually seemed to try and brake quite early and cautiously despite being able to fight for P1 as a result of his start, he just had no braking ability in the car. Amazing how such a small error on the steering wheel can undo all the effort he and Mercedes had put into rescuing this weekend.
Yeah, they occasionally do a transcript as well as the audio and I enjoy that. Shame they don't do it more cos we do miss out on so much. I've really enjoyed the new team/race director radio, wasn't sure at first but getting to hear the Red Bull guy calling for the red flag so everyone could change tyres was especially great, partly so we could find out it was for that and not just the race director trying to inject some drama but also for the insight of knowing that the failure seemingly came out of nowhere like Silverstone last year.Oh wow. I really wish they'd do more audio and add subtitles since they are on delay. Adds a lot to it.
Agreed!Yeah, they occasionally do a transcript as well as the audio and I enjoy that. Shame they don't do it more cos we do miss out on so much. I've really enjoyed the new team/race director radio, wasn't sure at first but getting to hear the Red Bull guy calling for the red flag so everyone could change tyres was especially great, partly so we could find out it was for that and not just the race director trying to inject some drama but also for the insight of knowing that the failure seemingly came out of nowhere like Silverstone last year.
That said, if they played a lot more driver radio, this thread would become even more unreadable due to all the drivers being accused of "whining" so swings and roundabouts.
Rank | Driver | Number | Team | Grid | Pits | Fastest Lap | Race Time | PointsPts |
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1 | Sergio Perez | 11 | Red Bull | 6 | 3 | 1:44.687 | 2:13:36.410 | 25 |
2 | Sebastian Vettel | 5 | Aston Martin | 11 | 3 | 1:44.890 | 1.385 behind | 18 |
3 | Pierre Gasly | 10 | AlphaTauri | 4 | 3 | 1:45.220 | 2.762 behind | 15 |
4 | Charles Leclerc | 16 | Ferrari | 1 | 3 | 1:45.382 | 3.828 behind | 12 |
5 | Lando Norris | 4 | McLaren | 9 | 3 | 1:45.326 | 4.754 behind | 10 |
6 | Fernando Alonso | 14 | Alpine | 8 | 4 | 1:45.624 | 6.382 behind | 8 |
7 | Yuki Tsunoda | 22 | AlphaTauri | 7 | 3 | 1:44.939 | 6.624 behind | 6 |
8 | Carlos Sainz Jnr | 5 | Ferrari | 5 | 3 | 1:45.700 | 7.709 behind | 4 |
9 | Daniel Ricciardo | 3 | McLaren | 13 | 3 | 1:45.713 | 8.874 behind | 2 |
10 | Kimi Raikkonen | 7 | Alfa Romeo | 14 | 3 | 1:45.601 | 9.576 behind | 1 |
11 | Antonio Giovinazzi | 99 | Alfa Romeo | 20 | 4 | 1:45.575 | 10.254 behind | 0 |
12 | Valtteri Bottas | 77 | Mercedes | 10 | 3 | 1:45.665 | 11.264 behind | 0 |
13 | Mick Schumacher | 47 | Haas | 17 | 5 | 1:47.624 | 14.241 behind | 0 |
14 | Nikita Mazepin | 9 | Haas | 18 | 6 | 1:47.747 | 14.315 behind | 0 |
15 | Lewis Hamilton | 44 | Mercedes | 2 | 3 | 1:44.769 | 17.668 behind | 0 |
16 | Nicholas Latifi | 6 | Williams | 16 | 2 | 1:46.608 | 42.379 behind | 0 |
17 | George Russell | 63 | Williams | 15 | 4 | 1:45.959 | no time- | 0 |
18 | Max Verstappen | 33 | Red Bull | 3 | 1 | fastest overall lap 1:44.481 | no time- | 0 |
not classified | Lance Stroll | 18 | Aston Martin | 19 | 0 | 1:46.207 | did not finish completed 29 laps | 0 |
not classified | Esteban Ocon | 31 | Alpine | 12 | 1 | 1:50.850 | did not finish completed 3 laps | 0 |
Rank | Driver | Team | Wins | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 2 | 105 |
2 | Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 3 | 101 |
3 | Sergio Perez | Red Bull | 1 | 69 |
4 | Lando Norris | McLaren | 0 | 66 |
5 | Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 0 | 52 |
6 | Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 0 | 47 |
7 | Carlos Sainz Jr. | Ferrari | 0 | 42 |
8 | Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | 0 | 31 |
9 | Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | 0 | 28 |
10 | Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | 0 | 26 |
11 | Fernando Alonso | Alpine | 0 | 13 |
12 | Esteban Ocon | Alpine | 0 | 12 |
13 | Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | 0 | 9 |
14 | Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | 0 | 8 |
15 | Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 1 |
16 | Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 1 |
17 | Mick Schumacher | Haas | 0 | 0 |
18 | George Russell | Williams | 0 | 0 |
19 | Nikita Mazepin | Haas | 0 | 0 |
20 | Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 0 | 0 |
Rank | Team | Wins | Points |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Red Bull | 3 | 174 |
2 | Mercedes | 3 | 148 |
3 | Ferrari | 0 | 94 |
4 | McLaren | 0 | 92 |
5 | AlphaTauri | 0 | 39 |
6 | Aston Martin | 0 | 37 |
7 | Alpine | 0 | 25 |
8 | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 2 |
9 | Haas | 0 | 0 |
10 | Williams | 0 | 0 |
Too bad was nothing to do with 'overheating brakes'...Yes, overheating brakes failing is "bottling it".
It does seem pretty crazy that you can nudge a switch that turns the brakes off on a car that does over 200mph.Lewis has said he turned the brakes off on the steering wheel when perez moved over to cover him and he didnt realise he had done it. Lucky boy that could have been one hell of a crash if it had been at somewhere like socchi or monza.
Surely you can't turn the brakes off? It's rather the auromatic brake fluid pressure control innit ?It does seem pretty crazy that you can nudge a switch that turns the brakes off on a car that does over 200mph.
I missed the race and it sounds like it was brilliant.