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elmo

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Just seen the last 2 laps, will have to watch the replay later, its so much more interesting when the usual suspects don't dominate

Hamilton disappearing straight on keeps the championship interesting

Why did Perez just stop at the end? Fuel?

What was up with Bottas? (Not that I mind him being out the way!)
I think they mentioned it was something to do with his wheels
 

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feck, damn lewis. Credit for having the balls to go for it with overheating brakes. But thats what WC's do. If he had pulled that off.....

Bloody overheating brakes.

Glad for Perez and Vettel.
 

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So actually Lewis got a setting wrong and that was what fecked his brakes up.
 

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feck, damn lewis. Credit for having the balls to go for it with overheating brakes. But thats what WC's do. If he had pulled that off.....

Bloody overheating brakes.

Glad for Perez and Vettel.
My feelings as well. As you say, the brakes may have let him down.
 

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Unless Max leaves, there's no bigger team available seeing how Ferrari and Mercedes supposedly have their planned their future planned out.
Well you'd normally think Renault is a bigger seat than Red Bulls second team, but they probably have a worse car (consistently)
 

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Wonder what odds you could get after the red flag that Bottas would finish ahead of Hamilton
 

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Obviously Hamilton will be gutted, but he was two laps from being 15 points behind.
 

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Watching that replay makes it worse, arrgghhhh. 15 points dropped. Now i wish the race finished under the saftey car.
 

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Whilst I'm still gutted for Max, that was a very enjoyable race, especially compared to Monaco.

Mazepin and Bottas will party for a week after finishing ahead of Lewis.
 

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Red Bull probably never dreamed they'd take 25 points over Mercedes in a single race this season. Big for the constructors.
 

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So much salt in this thread today.. Pretty likely it will only get worse as the season goes along as well unfortunately.
 

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Well you'd normally think Renault is a bigger seat than Red Bulls second team, but they probably have a worse car (consistently)
He probably would take the Renault seat if offered it, not sure why they'll rather get an aging Alonso on their team, he's clearly not there long term.
 

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Gutted to have missed this. Seems like an absolutely mental race.

Everything else aside, how the feck does Mazepin pit six times and finish ahead of Hamilton? :lol:
 

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Proper season this one. Will be lots of pushing and the consequence will be mistakes and failures like today.

Early in the race red bull told Max or Perez to take care of one of the tyres. Forget which driver and tyre. I'd love to see what % Max's tyres were at failure.

Hamilton mentioned he thought he turned off magic mode and the pitwall said he did but it failed? Didn't quite catch it. Anyone?
 

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Proper season this one. Will be lots of pushing and the consequence will be mistakes and failures like today.

Early in the race red bull told Max or Perez to take care of one of the tyres. Forget which driver and tyre. I'd love to see what % Max's tyres were at failure.

Hamilton mentioned he thought he turned off magic mode and the pitwall said he did but it failed? Didn't quite catch it. Anyone?
Thought he said he accidentally hit the button on the restart which changed the brake balance.
 

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Gutted to have missed this. Seems like an absolutely mental race.

Everything else aside, how the feck does Mazepin pit six times and finish ahead of Hamilton?
:lol:
He was able to unlap himself as a result of the safety car/red flag and so was with the pack when Hamilton went off at turn 1.
Proper season this one. Will be lots of pushing and the consequence will be mistakes and failures like today.

Early in the race red bull told Max or Perez to take care of one of the tyres. Forget which driver and tyre. I'd love to see what % Max's tyres were at failure.

Hamilton mentioned he thought he turned off magic mode and the pitwall said he did but it failed? Didn't quite catch it. Anyone?
Was Verstappen and one of the rear tyres. Given Perez's tyres were fresher, he's better at managing them and he was at 10% on the graphic before Verstappen's let go, I'm guessing Verstappen's were in the same situation. Hamilton's rears were at 20% at the same point so he'd managed to keep a bit more in them.

With Hamilton, he'd turned it off and then accidently turned it back on when changing gear and that cooked the brakes. Watching the onboard you can see that at the restart he got away like a rocket but actually seemed to try and brake quite early and cautiously despite being able to fight for P1 as a result of his start, he just had no braking ability in the car. Amazing how such a small error on the steering wheel can undo all the effort he and Mercedes had put into rescuing this weekend.
 

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He was able to unlap himself as a result of the safety car/red flag and so was with the pack when Hamilton went off at turn 1.

Was Verstappen and one of the rear tyres. Given Perez's tyres were fresher, he's better at managing them and he was at 10% on the graphic before Verstappen's let go, I'm guessing Verstappen's were in the same situation. Hamilton's rears were at 20% at the same point so he'd managed to keep a bit more in them.

With Hamilton, he'd turned it off and then accidently turned it back on when changing gear and that cooked the brakes. Watching the onboard you can see that at the restart he got away like a rocket but actually seemed to try and brake quite early and cautiously despite being able to fight for P1 as a result of his start, he just had no braking ability in the car. Amazing how such a small error on the steering wheel can undo all the effort he and Mercedes had put into rescuing this weekend.
Oh wow. I really wish they'd do more audio and add subtitles since they are on delay. Adds a lot to it.
 

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Lewis has said he turned the brakes off on the steering wheel when perez moved over to cover him and he didnt realise he had done it. Lucky boy that could have been one hell of a crash if it had been at somewhere like socchi or monza.
 

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Oh wow. I really wish they'd do more audio and add subtitles since they are on delay. Adds a lot to it.
Yeah, they occasionally do a transcript as well as the audio and I enjoy that. Shame they don't do it more cos we do miss out on so much. I've really enjoyed the new team/race director radio, wasn't sure at first but getting to hear the Red Bull guy calling for the red flag so everyone could change tyres was especially great, partly so we could find out it was for that and not just the race director trying to inject some drama but also for the insight of knowing that the failure seemingly came out of nowhere like Silverstone last year.

That said, if they played a lot more driver radio, this thread would become even more unreadable due to all the drivers being accused of "whining" so swings and roundabouts.
 

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Yeah, they occasionally do a transcript as well as the audio and I enjoy that. Shame they don't do it more cos we do miss out on so much. I've really enjoyed the new team/race director radio, wasn't sure at first but getting to hear the Red Bull guy calling for the red flag so everyone could change tyres was especially great, partly so we could find out it was for that and not just the race director trying to inject some drama but also for the insight of knowing that the failure seemingly came out of nowhere like Silverstone last year.

That said, if they played a lot more driver radio, this thread would become even more unreadable due to all the drivers being accused of "whining" so swings and roundabouts.
Agreed!
 
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RankDriverNumberTeamGridPitsFastest LapRace TimePointsPts
1Sergio Perez11Red Bull631:44.6872:13:36.41025
2Sebastian Vettel5Aston Martin1131:44.8901.385 behind18
3Pierre Gasly10AlphaTauri431:45.2202.762 behind15
4Charles Leclerc16Ferrari131:45.3823.828 behind12
5Lando Norris4McLaren931:45.3264.754 behind10
6Fernando Alonso14Alpine841:45.6246.382 behind8
7Yuki Tsunoda22AlphaTauri731:44.9396.624 behind6
8Carlos Sainz Jnr5Ferrari531:45.7007.709 behind4
9Daniel Ricciardo3McLaren1331:45.7138.874 behind2
10Kimi Raikkonen7Alfa Romeo1431:45.6019.576 behind1
11Antonio Giovinazzi99Alfa Romeo2041:45.57510.254 behind0
12Valtteri Bottas77Mercedes1031:45.66511.264 behind0
13Mick Schumacher47Haas1751:47.62414.241 behind0
14Nikita Mazepin9Haas1861:47.74714.315 behind0
15Lewis Hamilton44Mercedes231:44.76917.668 behind0
16Nicholas Latifi6Williams1621:46.60842.379 behind0
17George Russell63Williams1541:45.959no time-0
18Max Verstappen33Red Bull31
fastest overall lap 1:44.481
no time-0
not classifiedLance Stroll18Aston Martin1901:46.207did not finish completed 29 laps0
not classifiedEsteban Ocon31Alpine1211:50.850did not finish completed 3 laps0
 
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RankDriverTeamWinsPoints
1Max VerstappenRed Bull2105
2Lewis HamiltonMercedes3101
3Sergio PerezRed Bull169
4Lando NorrisMcLaren066
5Charles LeclercFerrari052
6Valtteri BottasMercedes047
7Carlos Sainz Jr.Ferrari042
8Pierre GaslyAlphaTauri031
9Sebastian VettelAston Martin028
10Daniel RicciardoMcLaren026
11Fernando AlonsoAlpine013
12Esteban OconAlpine012
13Lance StrollAston Martin09
14Yuki TsunodaAlphaTauri08
15Kimi RaikkonenAlfa Romeo01
16Antonio GiovinazziAlfa Romeo01
17Mick SchumacherHaas00
18George RussellWilliams00
19Nikita MazepinHaas00
20Nicholas LatifiWilliams00