Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed

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Abraxas

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What? At the start of the summer it was reported they wanted us to pay what we offered last year. If the fee is true, we have negotiated them down massively. I'm also not sure what rate you think a players price should depreciate at, but seems like a frightening rate. I'd like to buy a car off you.
It was reported, that does not mean it is fact, at least in terms of precise figures, however the idea they would start high is so obvious as to be a moot point. A great idea for an article as it sounds dramatic without saying anything at all. Of course Dortmund start at a high position, this is a fairly trivial element of negotiation, I don't find any particular meaning in that. What else would they do?

Making the other party feel like they have a great deal when a compromise is found is exactly how a deal is reached. Which is how you feel, coincidentally. You also happen to be a fan of our club, unsurprisingly your interpretation is we did everything right and we got a deal.

Dortmund are probably sat there thinking they've got a cracking deal as well, a stack of money in a difficult financial climate for all clubs and yes the player has depreciated as all players do. The car comparison is totally nonsensical.

I just find it strange people want to interpret the whole deal in light of whatever agenda they have rather than calling a spade a spade, it's a deal reached very obviously as a compromise given the financial landscape that both will be happy with. It's good for us, I like the player. I just don't find it to be fantastic value, especially before he's kicked a ball - and ultimately that will be the final determination of what is good value.
 

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He's well prepared for a career in sports journalism
They are something else, those journalists. First they change Euro to pound, then convert the pound to Euro.

Also theirs struggles with net and gross wages is funny.
 

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It's not about believing in this regard. It's pointing out that people claiming he recycles news are just lazy generalisations.

He doesn't normally confirm until its done and rarely jumps the gun. If all he did was recycle news, he'd be jumping all over this and backing skysports up. But he's going against what they say, so regardless of who is right, he's not just "recycling news".
Nope he's firmly on the fence for a change.
 

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@mitchmouse would have expert negotiated a €95m deal a month ago by “just getting on and paying the fecking asking price”, which would have been better. For some reason.
Paying Sancho 300k a week to train under Southgate and then go on holiday for 3 weeks.
 

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@mitchmouse would have expert negotiated a €95m deal a month ago by “just getting on and paying the fecking asking price”, which would have been better. For some reason.
And then be on another thread simulatenously, moaning how we didn't have enough spare money to do anything nyrhing else.
 

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Why does everyone have such a hardon for him? Everytime I watch him plays for England, he does nothing. Skysport is reporting £77m so where is this £85m fee from?
This is why


Only 21 years old too

International form has ZERO bearing on a players club form, if it did our best player last season wouldn't have been our best player given how awful he was at the Euros...
 
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@mitchmouse would have expert negotiated a €95m deal a month ago by “just getting on and paying the fecking asking price”, which would have been better. For some reason.
We are rich, we should show that. Negotiations is for peasants, we are ManUtd, we shouldn't negotiate, atleast going by few in Sancho thread.
 

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Why does everyone have such a hardon for him? Everytime I watch him plays for England, he does nothing. Skysport is reporting £77m so where is this £85m fee from?
Imagine judging players firstly on international performance and even worse while playing (or not in his case) under Gareth Southgate :lol:

Maybe people are erect over him due you know actually watching him play more than a few friendlies and the odd 5 minute cameo?
 

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85m euros / £75m pounds is a much fairer reflection of his value, I'm glad we waited and Dortmund came to the table at that price. The 100m prices were just unrealistic given the risks involved and revenues being depleted by covid.

That said it's still a hefty price and I have my reservations on the player. Hopefully he hits he ground running.

Though I can't seem to shake the image of him playing on the right against low blocks, him having to pass it back constantly. Essentially think Bernado Silva in the 4 games at the Euros for Portugal. Great passer but won't take players on so our frustration against the weaker teams in the league could well continue. We'll see soon I guess.
 

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Imagine thinking Sancho would just pass it back when playing against a low block :lol: I know Southgate doesn't watch much German football, but its clear so many on here don't either, and still all want to have extreme opinions on Sancho.
 

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85m euros / £75m pounds is a much fairer reflection of his value, I'm glad we waited and Dortmund came to the table at that price. The 100m prices were just unrealistic given the risks involved and revenues being depleted by covid.

That said it's still a hefty price and I have my reservations on the player. Hopefully he hits he ground running.

Though I can't seem to shake the image of him playing on the right against low blocks, him having to pass it back constantly. Essentially think Bernado Silva in the 4 games at the Euros for Portugal. Great passer but won't take players on so our frustration against the weaker teams in the league could well continue. We'll see soon I guess.
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Less than Chelsea paid for Hazertz, seems reasonable at £73m
For a more productive and younger player from the same league at that

I might have to send some praise the club and Murtough's way if that really is the final fee
 

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85m euros / £75m pounds is a much fairer reflection of his value, I'm glad we waited and Dortmund came to the table at that price. The 100m prices were just unrealistic given the risks involved and revenues being depleted by covid.

That said it's still a hefty price and I have my reservations on the player. Hopefully he hits he ground running.

Though I can't seem to shake the image of him playing on the right against low blocks, him having to pass it back constantly. Essentially think Bernado Silva in the 4 games at the Euros for Portugal. Great passer but won't take players on so our frustration against the weaker teams in the league could well continue. We'll see soon I guess.
I think this is a fair concern in the sense I don't think he's going to completely solve some of our creative deficiencies on his own. That's more than a one player problem I would have thought. In fact I feel that probably starts with how we progress the ball from the back and through midfield.

But I think it will help having a slightly different kind of player in our attack. The one thing I noticed when looking at him closely is he's not actually that quick. I had in my mind he was rapid but he's merely quick to my eye. But he was a lot cleverer with his passing and creativity than I thought. I don't think we have anybody like that whereas City have an abundance of players like this. We're a different side but it's nice to have somebody else that may unlock things rather than praying Pogba or Bruno do it.
 

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Imagine thinking Sancho would just pass it back when playing against a low block :lol: I know Southgate doesn't watch much German football, but its clear so many on here don't either, and still all want to have extreme opinions on Sancho.
Those kind of posts taught me to stop listening to anything anyone ever says on here. Hilarious.
 

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Funny, I thought the Caf was told by the BDL brigade that Dortmund do not negotiate? It’s 95M euros or never but now it has come down to 85M?
 

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Though I can't seem to shake the image of him playing on the right against low blocks, him having to pass it back constantly. Essentially think Bernado Silva in the 4 games at the Euros for Portugal. Great passer but won't take players on so our frustration against the weaker teams in the league could well continue. We'll see soon I guess.
I think you're in the wrong thread. This one's about Sancho
 

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Funny, I thought the Caf was told by the BDL brigade that Dortmund do not negotiate? It’s 95M euros or never but now it has come down to 85M?
It was 85m all along. They were just seeing how arrogant we could make ourselves look by saying that we wouldn’t pay 95.. Dortmund win again
 

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It was reported, that does not mean it is fact, at least in terms of precise figures, however the idea they would start high is so obvious as to be a moot point. A great idea for an article as it sounds dramatic without saying anything at all. Of course Dortmund start at a high position, this is a fairly trivial element of negotiation, I don't find any particular meaning in that. What else would they do?

Making the other party feel like they have a great deal when a compromise is found is exactly how a deal is reached. Which is how you feel, coincidentally. You also happen to be a fan of our club, unsurprisingly your interpretation is we did everything right and we got a deal.

Dortmund are probably sat there thinking they've got a cracking deal as well, a stack of money in a difficult financial climate for all clubs and yes the player has depreciated as all players do. The car comparison is totally nonsensical.

I just find it strange people want to interpret the whole deal in light of whatever agenda they have rather than calling a spade a spade, it's a deal reached very obviously as a compromise given the financial landscape that both will be happy with. It's good for us, I like the player. I just don't find it to be fantastic value, especially before he's kicked a ball - and ultimately that will be the final determination of what is good value.
He's one of the most proficient attackers in Europe at 21 and English. Find me a player of similar profile you'd get for even close to that price for. We've been fed a load of nonsense for a year that the price is the price, pathetic supermarket comparisons and now we've potentially achieved a realistic price - pretty much what Chelsea paid for Havertz it is quite obviously a good deal and also a well played negotiation, provided the price is what it is compared to what they originally demanded.

Considering 12 months ago they could have had close to 20-30 more in the bank, not have a sulkly player for half the season it feels weird like you think Dortmund planned this all along.
 

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85m euros / £75m pounds is a much fairer reflection of his value, I'm glad we waited and Dortmund came to the table at that price. The 100m prices were just unrealistic given the risks involved and revenues being depleted by covid.

That said it's still a hefty price and I have my reservations on the player. Hopefully he hits he ground running.

Though I can't seem to shake the image of him playing on the right against low blocks, him having to pass it back constantly. Essentially think Bernado Silva in the 4 games at the Euros for Portugal. Great passer but won't take players on so our frustration against the weaker teams in the league could well continue. We'll see soon I guess.
Why won't he take on players? His dribbling stats are Messiesque, almost all important stats are at 97-98 percentile, which shows how good ball carrier he is.
 
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