Ole signs new contract

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charlenefan

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Pretty much how I feel.

All of this “he deserved an extension” talk is crazy to me. When he came in what were your expectations of him and what did he exceed?

No elite team wants him, he would have just as easily renewed next summer.
After the way things went for him at Cardiff and the fact he was back in Norway when we picked him up, the fact he's reached as many semi finals as he has, brought in the level of players he has, won the games he has id say he's exceeded all the expectations I had of him so that's a daft question to ask to be honest.

I thought he'd be a short 'give it to Giggs till the end of the season' appointment, the fact he's arguably been our best managerial appointment post SAF which includes Moyes, LVG and Mourinho is in itself an achievement

Obviously the improvement needs to continue, we need to go from distant 2nd in the league to challenging for the title, we need to go from losing finalists to winning finalists, the quality of player in the team needs to continue etc etc
 

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I suppose Ole has done enough to continue but we need to see more progress made year on year. I hope he’s the man to do it. With signings of Varane and Sancho, it will be a squad that should be competing on all fronts so this is the time to show his coaching ability, his in game management.
 

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I am proud of our club to stick with our long term plan. It’s so painfully obvious to see that what we have done under Ole and what we are going to continue doing under him will make us successful for years to come.
 

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It is not strange for a board that gives Phil Jones contracts when he is not even playing football to reward mediocrity. I will off course wish him all the best and good luck, but I am afraid only luck will not help him win trophies because of the big deficiencies in his managerial competence.
 

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Nonsense. Rival fans for the first time in almost a decade have started to fear or at the very least respect us again. We were a laughing stock under previous managers.

Give the guy some respect for how he’s turned this club around and stop pandering to your oppo supporting mates.
Where you saw that?
 

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All things considered, he's completely changed the feel of the club. Felt like we were always years away from sustained success under Jose and Van Gaal but now feels like we're really close. That's down to him.

Deserves a new contract and backing in the transfer market. Give him everything he needs to challenge for trophies and hold him accountable if he still can't get us over the line.
 

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Literally go on every single social media platform. They are literally pissing themselves laughing whilst we spend hundreds of millions and are still watching our biggest rivals clean up all the trophies.

Nobody fears us and why would they? We can't even win second-rate trophies when we have the chance to do so
This is what I mean when I say some fans can't handle oppo fans' banter and basically form their opinion based on that oppo banter.
 

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Not one fan would predict us to win the league this season or even come close . I wonder how many years in his reign would it be fair to expect a shot at the league or the champions league
That's more down to Guardiola than anything else. Once he leaves it will be different.
 

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I’m not saying he shouldn’t be sacked if he eventually deserves it, but he deserves to know the club are backing him. This is evidence of that.
Having spent a lot of money in recent times and getting a contract for the current season would be backing enough in my books. But that's just a matter of personal taste, I feel like. You're definitely right that business is usually done the way this extension went.
 

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We finished above 2 of those last year, so they can be as happy as they like.
Chelsea fans are really crying their eyes out, because they only won a tinypot CL last season. Same, with Liverpool, with an injury ravaged year they salvaged a CL finish and won PL/CL in 2 years prior.

Some of the guff being written in here. It's fine to say you are happy with the direction we are heading under Ole, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why rival fans are delighted with this news. He's not a threat when it comes to winning trophies.
 

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Bit premature. That's exactly what we thought with Jose as well. He got us trophies, then a second position , a new contract only to be sacked 6 months later.

While I agree Ole has been fine, we should have waited until atleast Christmas to see how things go in this season. If we are far behind, he is getting the sack anyway. So I really don't understand the timing. What difference would it have made be it July or December ?

Baffling !
If they want to sack him at Christmas, they'll do that without much care or concern at how much it will cost to pay him off, there's obviously budget put aside for that kind of thing.

However, we hear time and time again, it's hard to attract players if they don't know who the manager will be next season. Solskajer might really fancy someone, but the next manager might stick him on the bench because he doesn't fit a new formation or style of play.
 

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Great news. I’m one of his biggest defenders and really been behind him in good and bad times.

But from this season it is trophies that matters. We have shown great progress under him and now it is time for the silverware.
 

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City & Liverpool fans want Ole at the club. Maybe he can change it, but as of now they don’t respect/fear him at all.
They aren’t going to say anything different though are they.

The fact for a small period of last season we ran them close and we’re out scoring every team in the league will not have gone unnoticed by fans with an ounce of knowledge about the game.

We weren’t going to leapfrog both City and Liverpool overnight when they have such strong squads and the two best managers in Europe, it’s about continuous improvement and seeing us compete that much more each season.
 

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He already has a full season under his belt. He's being backed and all his prime targets are being bought. There's literally no interest in his services from any decent club, so why the hurry? Why can't we wait like, for October or Christmas to see if he deserves an extension? Why are we renewing him after he fumbled a chance at winning a European trophy versus a much much worse Villareal squad?
It isn’t good for a squad to not know whether the manager is coming or going. That kind of upheaval just causes distractions, see Fergie in 2002. Every week he’d be facing questions about his future, when the club can nip it in the bud now and renew him. Everyone knows he isn’t going to another club but it isn’t just about that, there’s other factors.
 

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Literally go on every single social media platform. They are literally pissing themselves laughing whilst we spend hundreds of millions and are still watching our biggest rivals clean up all the trophies.

Nobody fears us and why would they? We can't even win second-rate trophies when we have the chance to do so
Who gives a flying feck what opposition fans think? Since when did they want what's best for Manchester United? Or even know what's best? Some of you need to take a break from social media, it's making you right mard arses.
 

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After the way things went for him at Cardiff and the fact he was back in Norway when we picked him up, the fact he's reached as many semi finals as he has, brought in the level of players he has, won the games he has id say he's exceeded all the expectations I had of him so that's a daft question to ask to be honest.

I thought he'd be a short 'give it to Giggs till the end of the season' appointment, the fact he's arguably been our best managerial appointment post SAF which includes Moyes, LVG and Mourinho is in itself an achievement

Obviously the improvement needs to continue, we need to go from distant 2nd in the league to challenging for the title, we need to go from losing finalists to winning finalists, the quality of player in the team needs to continue etc etc
No its not and thats the part I disagree with heavily.

The winning essence and mentality has left Manchester United.
 

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The first thing I noticed not our own united happy fans, but the happy crowds of rival fans, imagine our rivals have Klopp, Tuchel, and Pep. While we have Ole. The club needs to close the managerial gap between us and the our rivals by buying him more world class players. Maybe he wins something.
 

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They have no answer to this, they NEVER have an answer to this.

Its just the childish ‘sack him anyway’ blah blah without a single suggestion about who will leapfrog the two best managers on planet Earth.

Until that manager becomes available you stick with continuous improvement.
The have zero concept of context. You can see it in this thread now - “we’re Manchester United 2nd isn’t enough blah blah” - as if the name alone just wins titles.
 

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When will we ever learn. Phil Jones new contract made more sense since Phil Jones at least got potential to be a great defender. There is minimal potential sticking with Ole for a long time if we want to win things and there is so many better managers out there.
Like whom?
 

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If Chelsea can win the Champions League, so can Man United.
Well of course on paper anyone can win it but my club went out in the group stages and then lost to Villarreal in the EL final . Sorry but I can’t seriously believe that we can win the cl under him
 

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City & Liverpool fans want Ole at the club. Maybe he can change it, but as of now they don’t respect/fear him at all.
They also think all of our players are useless including our better ones like Maguire. Best not to worry about what they think.
 

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I think the contract extension was always coming, the squad is in much better shape now than when he found it.

Obviously all the xxxxs will say oh he's not won anything but people seem to forget that he's going against as many on here have said one of the best sides in the world in City and as many of the pundits have said Liverpool have played amazing football for 2 of the last 3 seasons.

We've got stability and getting a very good squad to push them next season.

I think it'll be he has to win something this season as that's the only way it'll be progress on last season.
 

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Who gives a flying feck what opposition fans think? Since when did they want what's best for Manchester United? Or even know what's best? Some of you need to take a break from social media, it's making you right mard arses.
Well said. I always have a smile at the fans who suggest we shouldn’t sign someone or extend a contract because other teams fans will laugh.
 

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We finished second and was a decent GK away from winning a EL last season lads. Our rivals might think it's funny but we did better than most of them last year and this year will be no different.
 

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Funny enough, yes, too shit for other positions that require more technical qualities.



Given two people watch/follow the progress and facts equally, having played a fecking pub game can't possibly make one of them more qualified. It's just a "I am very badass" attitude.
It's not at all to be honest. I've played football all my life and love it as a sport. From my experience though people who haven't played the game substantially don't understand certain aspects. That isn't too outrageous to suggest is it?


If I signed up to a tennis forum, for instance, I wouldn't be ashamed to admit that I love watching it despite never playing it.


No ones a bad ass.
 

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He already has a full season under his belt. He's being backed and all his prime targets are being bought. There's literally no interest in his services from any decent club, so why the hurry? Why can't we wait like, for October or Christmas to see if he deserves an extension? Why are we renewing him after he fumbled a chance at winning a European trophy versus a much much worse Villareal squad?

That's the problem. His renewal was agreed back in April itself, and they were waiting for right time to announce it. Obviously, couldn't do it after losing a final. So, they chose to sneak this in after Sancho signing. We are continuously rewarding mediocrity (see Jones, Bailly, Mata) Ole is latest in a very long line so forgive me if I am not optimistic about how things are run here.



Thank you for proving my point. This is new Utd under Ole, content with making CL places every year while being near men when it comes to silverware.

That's very definition of mediocrity which so many Utd fans are happy with, I am not. Our squad has serious potential and needs a better a manager to help them take the next step. Ole won't suddenly develop tactical nous to win big boy trophies, just like Fred won't suddenly turn into a world beater no matter how much time he is given. There's levels to this stuff.
At no point did I say I am content with no silverware. That has to be a remit for him in this new contract with the signings he has made. I am merely stating that he has deserved this contract extension based on the progress, trophies or not, he has made with this team. From where he started to where we are now, it is unquestionable progress, on and off the pitch.

Plus, I think people have been understandably scarred by what happened with Mourinho, but in hindsight, that had been a pattern with Mourinho in every job he had previously. Even though he had initial success, it wasn't sustainable due to the toxic atmosphere he created and his football was pretty diabolical. With Ole, yes he hasn't won trophies, but the club is looking to be successful in the long term. Whether Ole is the man to deliver, time will tell. But he has earned the right to try!
 

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We finished second and was a decent GK away from winning a EL last season lads. Our rivals might think it's funny but we did better than most of them last year and this year will be no different.
We didn't lose EL because of DDG.
 

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Fine , we will just wait for the top managers to leave the league so that we can have a chance
You also cannot pretend leapfrogging them is some easy task, your talking about the two best managers on earth, no matter what we spend, especially when they spend as much as us, throw Chelsea into that as well.

On that basis I believe Ole is doing well and nobody is waiting in the wings to guarantee us titles contrary to the attitude many have here.
 

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He's earned this contract on nothing but nostalgia and good vibes

Oh, and not being problematic.
 

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We literally finished above Chelsea for two seasons in a row and Liverpool last season. Give your head a wobble. Call yourself a fan :lol:
But we're thinking in the context of winning the league and obstacles in the way. Us and Liverpool have proved we can hold our nerve when trophies are on the line, United (under Ole) still hasn't.

The thing with Ole is you can make a case in both ways. It's undeniable he's done really well to build the team you have and get you in a position where you will almost surely have enough points for top four for the foreseeable future but at the same time you are the biggest club in the country and it's only natural you will be judged by those expectations aswell, 4 years without a trophy is pretty damming for a club your size especially when you've been in the Europa twice.
 

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He's done okay to get us this far but I don't think he'll be the man to win us trophies, last season was painful proof of that, and ultimately this decision will mean handing him more compensation in the end if and when it all goes tits up. Feck it, it's not my money. There's also the matter of not having a coach ready to come in now anyway.
 
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