[SirAnderson]

To think that was one of Pogba's best games for United, while also wishing he "did that on a more consistent basis" is paradoxical.
He played today like he normally plays, magical sometimes, sloppy occasionally - just this time this passes were met with good finishes or a good first touch, that's not normally the case.

On another day;
- Bruno's first goal is saved by the keeper or his first touch is sloppy.
- Mason's shot goes wide
- Bruno's second goal gets cleared off the line
- Fred's shot goes way over the bar.

You get the idea.

This, so much this. Perspective is needed.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

Keep him at all costs!

 

[LawCharltonBest]

His celebration for Fred’s goal was risky. Imagine if Fred had just run off to the crowd or something and left Pogba standing like that

 

[laughtersassassin]

They have he rejected it

If you believe that one report from that often unreliable journalist.

Other reporters have them still in talks etc

We don't know who is correct.

 

[Eckers99]

Great ball to Greenwood for the 2nd, the kind of pass he was doing game-in-game-out for France at the Euros. He's deadly with a bit of movement ahead of him and can produce those moments of pure quality almost at will.

If our forwards can make decent runs into the channels this season, we're almost guaranteed goals with Pogba in the side.

 

[golden_blunder]

So ‘attitude’ problem is not on your list?

He’s been said to have an attitude problem, ‘has to be the centre of attention’ and similar for many years, with little basis other than, I suspect, people assuming that should be the case based on what he looks like.

Now you’re assuming

 

[MadMike]

He played today like he normally plays, magical sometimes, sloppy occasionally

I agree to some extent, but this one was clearly one of his better performances because it's not often that he puts 3 or 4 goals on a plate in one match. Regardless of what the rest of the team does, on an individual level this one was one of his better ones.

He's a moment's player. A guy with magical skill who will try outrageous passes, shots or surging runs, cause that's his style and he knows he can pull them off more than most. If it works he looks amazing and if not he'll look poor because the rest of his game (defensive work & awareness, ball rotation) isn't special if we're honest. Today, everything he touched turned to gold.

As a side note, some kudos to Ole for reinventing him as a wide playmaker. He's a risky player to play in the midfield two and Bruno is more of goal threat from the #10, so putting him wide with the freedom to roam and playmake was genius. Works well with Luke Shaw providing the width too.

 

[Rozay]

Now you’re assuming

I’m not assuming, I’ve read these things. Well, I am left to speculate as to why he has been labelled as having an attitude problem yes, as I’ve seen little evidence of it.

 

[United in sin]

Ok lads, I’m more than happy to allow you to retract your posts. . .

This thread spanning 100+ pages is symptomatic of the Cafe & the analysis of Pogba.

Your heads are literally buried up your arses if you haven’t seen posters call him those things & more.

I’m not saying all posters do but far too many do, I’ve seen you both in more than enough threads to act like those comments aren’t happening.

Myth

I agree with you, it's not a 'myth'. This performance will forgotten soon enough.

@Nou_Camp99 is never around when Pogba plays like this (his biggest detractors never are). I hope we don't see him much in this thread this season!

I’m not assuming, I’ve read these things. Well, I am left to speculate as to why he has been labelled as having an attitude problem yes, as I’ve seen little evidence of it.

I've read these things as well. Attitude problems, lazy, etc. Code words

 

[Zoo]

That pass to Greenwood was incredible. On another level today.

It reminded me of the Pogba-Mbappe link up with France, defence-splitting pass and a ruthless finish. Hopefully they can do that more often.

 

[Grande]

I think today shows a part of why he can be divise (among fans) - as stupid as it sounds, for sixty minutes, if you remove the four assists, he had a so-so performance. Which was to be expected, with no preseason. Not much came off, a few dangerous dispossessions, missed a one-on-one and fell asleep and lost his man on their goal. But the assists - magical. The most important one a wonderful long pass shortly after dozing off at 1-1. Then again, four assists like that, it’s world class. Yet the most telling moment for me came when the hat trick hero, at 4-1, overtakes the tripple assistmaker to chase down an opponent on the latters side: That’s some message to send! Was it a coincidence that Pogba’s allround play went up a notch after that, or just an effect of him coming into gear while Leeds where deflated?
Either way, a world class average performance, and we’re in for a season of great fun if Pogba’s inspired by Bruno’s intensity and goal-mindedness. Hope he re-signs.

 

[Dante]

4 goals from only 5 key passes. An xA of only 0.72 tells you that he owes his teammates a lot of credit for finishing those chances so clinically.

That being said, the assists for Greenwood and Bruno's first goal were absolutely world class. But it shows you that he's a player who produces in moments more so than 90 minutes. Which is why he's better suited further up the pitch rather than midfield, where moments can decide games and sloppiness can be swept under the rug.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

He’s in great form! Needs to stay fit now and push us on along with Bruno.

 

[golden_blunder]

Ok lads, I’m more than happy to allow you to retract your posts. . .

This thread spanning 100+ pages is symptomatic of the Cafe & the analysis of Pogba.

Your heads are literally buried up your arses if you haven’t seen posters call him those things & more.

I’m not saying all posters do but far too many do, I’ve seen you both in more than enough threads to act like those comments aren’t happening.

Myth

Pull some comments out that match what you said. I’m expecting there to be loads in a thread that’s 123 pages long. I suspect that by many you mean a handful

 

[villain]

I agree to some extent, but this one was clearly one of his better performances because it's not often that he puts 3 or 4 goals on a plate in one match. Regardless of what the rest of the team does, on an individual level this one was one of his better ones.

He's a moment's player. A guy with magical skill who will try outrageous passes, shots or surging runs, cause that's his style and he knows he can pull them off more than most. If it works he looks amazing and if not he'll look poor because the rest of his game (defensive work & awareness, ball rotation) isn't special if we're honest. Today, everything he touched turned to gold.

As a side note, some kudos to Ole for reinventing him as a wide playmaker. He's a risky player to play in the midfield two and Bruno is more of goal threat from the #10, so putting him wide with the freedom to roam and playmake was genius. Works well with Luke Shaw providing the width too.

Personally I think it's because the rest of the team raised their game. There was movement ahead of him and we beat Leeds' press with one-touch passing, as opposed to slow, side-ways passes. That opened up space for the likes of Bruno, Greenwood & James to run into and there was simply more opportunity for Pogba to play the passes he's very capable of playing. The onus is on the rest of the team to maintain a similar attacking manner that creates space & movement in the final third.

His actual individual performance was nothing amazing, however coupled with the entire team being revved up makes football ridiculously easy for him.

 

[MadMike]

while rashford is out pogba on the left and sancho right is ideal. rotate greenwood in when needs be, perfect.

There's Martial too that can rotate, assuming Cavani is also back. We'll have a lot of options of the bench even with Rashford out.

 

[Rozay]

Pull some comments out that match what you said. I’m expecting there to be loads in a thread that’s 123 pages long. I suspect that by many you mean a handful

There are plenty in this thread for you to choose from:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/is-pogba-as-good-as-gone.451603/

 

[Champ]

4 goals from only 5 key passes. An xA of only 0.72 tells you that he owes his teammates a lot of credit for finishing those chances so clinically.

That being said, the assists for Greenwood and Bruno's first goal were absolutely world class. But it shows you that he's a player who produces in moments more so than 90 minutes. Which is why he's better suited further up the pitch rather than midfield, where moments can decide games and sloppiness can be swept under the rug.

Only 5 key passes?!! Are you for real? That's an insane stat in any game.
City beat Wolves 4-1 last season, KDB had 3 key passes and everyone lost their proverbial over his performance.

He owes his team mates nothing. Perfect runs, perfect passes.

 

[el3mel]

Ok lads, I’m more than happy to allow you to retract your posts. . .

This thread spanning 100+ pages is symptomatic of the Cafe & the analysis of Pogba.

Your heads are literally buried up your arses if you haven’t seen posters call him those things & more.

I’m not saying all posters do but far too many do, I’ve seen you both in more than enough threads to act like those comments aren’t happening.

Myth

I don't think people want him sold because he's a shit player. The majority were talking about the prospect of him leaving on free next summer so better to get money from him than get nothing. If he signs a new contract and committed his future to the club then I doubt anyone will be sad.

 

[NasirTimothy]

Right now, the best midfielder in the world. Go and argue with your ancestors if you disagree.

He can do things that other players simply can’t do.

 

[He'sRaldo]

There are plenty in this thread for you to choose from:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/is-pogba-as-good-as-gone.451603/

The sheer volume of nonsense threads about him is staggering. 100+ pages for this one also.

 

[villain]

4 goals from only 5 key passes. An xA of only 0.72 tells you that he owes his teammates a lot of credit for finishing those chances so clinically.

That being said, the assists for Greenwood and Bruno's first goal were absolutely world class. But it shows you that he's a player who produces in moments more so than 90 minutes. Which is why he's better suited further up the pitch rather than midfield, where moments can decide games and sloppiness can be swept under the rug.

3/4 assists of his assists came from midfield, not further up the pitch.

It does show what I was saying - his performance wasn't otherworldly, but good finishing made it an incredibly efficient performance.
However, I could give a feck about xA.

 

[vanrooney]

he has 4 assists and even then there are people on here relativizing his effort. i really hope he signs a new contract.

 

[golden_blunder]

There are plenty in this thread for you to choose from:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/is-pogba-as-good-as-gone.451603/

Again throw a few quotes

 

[RUCK4444]

Literally tonnes of posts calling him a virus and a circus.

Nobody wanting him to leave for free is obvious, it’s pointless posters even posting that. It’s a lose-lose.

There have been lots of irrational posts with people saying he doesn’t fit us, not worth the hassle, not worth a renewal with increased wages etc.

 

[villain]

he has 4 assists and even then there are people on here relativizing his effort. i really hope he signs a new contract.

I hope you don't mean me, because trust me i'm CEO of Pogba FC - I'm simply saying today was an average day at the office for him.
This is what his level of consistency can be, if he's surrounded with players who make runs and are comfortable with the ball at feet to beat a press.

 

[bond19821982]

Very erratic start. I was literally shouting at TV. WTF are you doing. Dispossessed so many times . But became a monster after that initial struggle. That was an amazing performance.

 

[berbatrick]

Again throw a few quotes

They do ?

from last season, by searching pogba unprofessional for about 3 mins.

one when he was in very good form after his comeback, one during the transfer nonsense, and the rest at the start of the season

Even when he does some brilliant stuff going forward he can't help himself, was another unprofessional performance.

Its disrespectful to United and unprofessional but whats new? Pogba/Raiola have been acting the maggot for years now despite being underwhelming on the pitch.
I actually feel a bit for Pogba supporters - Theyve been dancing merrily behind the pied piper for years fending off the Pogba critics and find it hard to accept the reality.

His brand. Twitter clicks correlated with penetration. More controversial more clicks. He starts a fire with this statement and will not attempt to quench it.
This will prompt more coverage. Now ole need to speak about pogba. Maybe zidane and PSG juve management as well. More news.
More clicks. More branding.

Yup , as always with Pogba the excuses will come thick and fast but like you said if he’s not right he shouldn’t be playing. His performance this week and last week were bordering on unprofessional. But you also have to ask questions of the person picking him who then leaves him on even after playing like that.

I don’t really care how late he picked it up. Football, like most sports, is about reactions. The team-mates beside him reacted appropriately. He did not. Reminds me of that stupid fecking penalty he conceded against Liverpool. Careless, cowardly, unprofessional, whatever. There’s a reason what we saw him do tonight is incredibly unusual.

 

[RUCK4444]

Again throw a few quotes

Just search the word Circus. I was going to ask you and your fellow peers to feckin ban the word it was being so used so often.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Best performance of his United career?

 

[Dante]

3/4 assists of his assists came from midfield, not further up the pitch.

It does show what I was saying - his performance wasn't otherworldly, but good finishing made it an incredibly efficient performance.
However, I could give a feck about xA.

2 came in the #10 position (Bruno's first and third), 1 came on the counter (Bruno's second, when he was 20 yards ahead of the midfield line) and 1 came in the left wing position (Fred's).

None of them came from midfield.

 

[Dante]

Only 5 key passes?!! Are you for real? That's an insane stat in any game.
City beat Wolves 4-1 last season, KDB had 3 key passes and everyone lost their proverbial over his performance.

He owes his team mates nothing. Perfect runs, perfect passes.

He won't maintain an 80% conversion rate for the rest of the season.

Of course the goalscorers deserve credit. They finished the chances.

 

[OL29]

4 goals from only 5 key passes. An xA of only 0.72 tells you that he owes his teammates a lot of credit for finishing those chances so clinically.

That being said, the assists for Greenwood and Bruno's first goal were absolutely world class. But it shows you that he's a player who produces in moments more so than 90 minutes. Which is why he's better suited further up the pitch rather than midfield, where moments can decide games and sloppiness can be swept under the rug.

The micro analysis of Pogba is ridiculous, how can anyone come to this conclusion based on today’s match? He was excellent from start to finish. You can’t expect him to create a goal scoring opportunity every time he touches the ball.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

4 goals from only 5 key passes. An xA of only 0.72 tells you that he owes his teammates a lot of credit for finishing those chances so clinically.

That being said, the assists for Greenwood and Bruno's first goal were absolutely world class. But it shows you that he's a player who produces in moments more so than 90 minutes. Which is why he's better suited further up the pitch rather than midfield, where moments can decide games and sloppiness can be swept under the rug.

Talk about a back handed compliment

 

[villain]

2 came in the #10 position (Bruno's first and third), 1 came on the counter (Bruno's second, when he was 20 yards ahead of the midfield line) and 1 came in the left wing position (Fred's).

None of them came from midfield.

With the exception of Fred's goal, of course they came from midfield - where else could they have come from?
"#10 position" is still midfield. The goal on the counter, he was also in midfield.

 

[Dante]

The micro analysis of Pogba is ridiculous, how can anyone come to this conclusion based on today’s match? He was excellent from start to finish. You can’t expect him to create a goal scoring opportunity every time he touches the ball.

Who says it's a conclusion based only on today's match? That's your own conclusion based on one post.

Pogba's shown what he's good and bad at over the last 5 years.

 

[TsuWave]

Best performance of his United career?

he has put up better clinics plenty of times. It just so happens today our forwards had their shooting boots on. I don’t know why people are so intent on acting like this is the first time Pogba played well

 

[Dante]

With the exception of Fred's goal, of course they came from midfield - where else could they have come from?

If that's midfield, you must think Bruno is a midfielder and that we play 4-3-3 every week.

 

[villain]

If that's midfield, you must think Bruno is a midfielder and that we play 4-3-3 every week.

Bruno is an attacking midfielder. Formation is neither here nor there considering OGS said that Pogba had a free role today.

 

[Dante]

Bruno is an attacking midfielder. Formation is neither here nor there considering OGS said that Pogba had a free role today.

You're giving Bruno and Pogba a designation in a formation and then saying formation in neither here nor there. Brilliant analysis.