The Protocol they negotiated. DUP have never been interested in power sharing anyway, so no change there.
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The Protocol they negotiated. DUP have never been interested in power sharing anyway, so no change there.
So they're trying ensure NI don' t continue to get the benefits the rest of the UK aren't getting, levelling up.
Gonna keep delaying until a competent government comes in, try’s to tackle it and then gets blamed for anything that goes wrong
What a monumental feck up this is. Worst thing is that it was so evident. Baffles the mind people can be this stupid.
Brexit still makes me so angry. Many of my freedoms taken away from me such as freedom of movement among many others. The unnecessary damage it will do to the country as a whole and it’s not even like this couldn’t have been predicted. So many people said before the vote “ermmmmm this really isn’t a good idea” but to feck with logic when you can use throwaway daily mail headlines as your arguments despite their lack of bearing on anything. “Freedom!”, “sovereignty!”, “taking back control!”.
Complete and utter muppets. I wouldn’t be so angry if they just owned it. Just owned up to the fact they’ve been duped, that Brexit is shit, there’s no sun lit uplands and that they made a mistake but nope, all of them pretty much always double down.
All of this for what? feck every single brexiter, I don’t care if it generalised them, I’m still too damn angry about this shit show too care.
At least I can get an Irish passport to soften the blow some what.
Complete and utter muppets. I wouldn’t be so angry if they just owned it. Just owned up to the fact they’ve been duped, that Brexit is shit, there’s no sun lit uplands and that they made a mistake but nope, all of them pretty much always double down.
All of this for what? feck every single brexiter, I don’t care if it generalised them, I’m still too damn angry about this shit show too care.
At least I can get an Irish passport to soften the blow some what.
It still amazes me that people voted for this utter madness. Living in Australia at my age it probably doesn't really affect me but if my wife wasn't Irish it would affect my son who may well want to work in Europe in the next few years.
I'm sad he will probably never have a UK passport as it is now pointless.
Everyone know what the solution is....re-join.
Easier said than done. It would require a huge culture change as well as a completely different government. There are many bridges to be mended and while I'm certain the EU hasn't closed the door on us returning, they won't just welcome us back with open arms unless changes are made.
If we did re-join, we would quite rightly have to work closer with the EU and lose all the benefits and budget reductions we had previously. I'd also expect us to move to the Euro. It won't happen for a generation or two unfortunately, although I think it will eventually when our economy starts falling off long term.
No chance for a generation at the very least. Trust had completely evaporated. We're better off without the whingeing Poms.
Yeah, the EU really wouldn't accept another reluctant member into their fold - like the UK has tended to be. Rejoining would mean having to fully embrace the EU this time round, including its currency, standards, and so on - I really don't see that happening for a long time for the UK. I think things are more likely to shift to a strong partner situation, like Norway or (formerly) Switzerland (if I'm not mistaken on those). That also means accepting a lot of EU standards, but the UK would keep things like its currency and its own immigration policy.
Single market, all rules, ECJ , no say, not in customs union. 4 freedoms (including FoM) Don't see Uk agreeing to this.
Certainly not in the near future. But if the UK were to make its way back towards the EU, I think steps towards this would happen firrst, rather than going for full membership again right away.
This is what Farage and the original Brexiteers promoted before the referendum until they later found out what it actually meant (they had no idea or plan for Brexit). This would be like being in the EU but having no say whatsoever and also still doesn't solve the Northern Ireland border. It's Ok for a country like Norway to an extent, not for a country the size of the UK. It also represents exactly what Brexiters moaned about the EU.
The issue being that the EU changed its foreign politics strategy which is why Switzerland have decided to step back. In theory you can't do the step by step/cherry picking shenanigans anymore, so if you struggle with a withdrawal agreement I don't even want to see what a comprehensive deal that includes the EU pillars is going to look like.
I’m in London. Got a KFC near Heathrow airport. They didn’t have any sweetcorn. No big deal. Chips were a bit tasteless though. Can I have some salt? Sorry. We don’t have any salt. WTF?
Dining out in a 3rd world eh
I just saw this:
Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader who previously served in cabinet with Truss, said she had been “one of the more robust people on China, and I hope that now she will take to the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office that robust attitude and make it clear that we can’t reward this Chinese regime with more trade deals”.
He hoped her enthusiasm for entering the Pacific trade partnership known as CPTPP would continue, pushing for the UK to “project ourselves post-Brexit to stop China becoming completely dominant” in the region.
Brunei and Malaysia await with bated breath.
Wonder if they've read up on what joining the CPTPP involves.
Living in a Brexit wonderland, away with the fairies.
Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader who previously served in cabinet with Truss, said she had been “one of the more robust people on China, and I hope that now she will take to the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office that robust attitude and make it clear that we can’t reward this Chinese regime with more trade deals”.
He hoped her enthusiasm for entering the Pacific trade partnership known as CPTPP would continue, pushing for the UK to “project ourselves post-Brexit to stop China becoming completely dominant” in the region.
Brunei and Malaysia await with bated breath.
Wonder if they've read up on what joining the CPTPP involves.
Living in a Brexit wonderland, away with the fairies.
We owned a few of the countries in the CPTPP though, so everyone will get to feel all nostalgic.
I think the government still think they do. Scary.
China will be desperate for those trade deals I'm sure.....
Just a bit of info on the CPTPP:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_and_Progressive_Agreement_for_Trans-Pacific_Partnership
Certain selected sections:
1) In June 2020, the government of the United Kingdom issued a policy paper[83] reaffirming the UK's position on accession to the CPTPP. There were three reasons given:
2) The UK government has not produced an impact assessment that explains or quantifies the benefits it expects for the UK economy from accession to CPTPP.[89] As such, it is a matter of dispute in UK as to whether accession is worth pursuing for economic reasons.[90] Farmer, environmental and consumer groups have all raised concerns that the UK government will need to agree to lowering standards on pesticides, pig welfare and food labelling.[91] These concerns have also been raised by the Scottish government.[92]
In June 2021, the CPTPP states agreed to open accession talks. A working group is expected to be established to discuss tariffs and rules governing investment and trade. The UK is not expected to accede to the CPTPP until 2022 at the earliest.[93]
3) Economist José Gabriel Palma has criticized the treaty for severely restricting the sovereignty of the signatories.[113] Signatories are subject to international courts and have restrictions on what their state-owned enterprises can do.[114] According to Palma the treaty makes it difficult for countries to implement policies aimed to diversify exports thus becoming a so-called middle income trap.[113] Palma also accuses that the treaty is reinforcing unequal relations by being drafted to reflect the laws of the United States.[114]
Plus the UK already have roll-over deals from the EU with most of them. Not NZ, Aus, Malaysia or Brunei yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_and_Progressive_Agreement_for_Trans-Pacific_Partnership
Certain selected sections:
1) In June 2020, the government of the United Kingdom issued a policy paper[83] reaffirming the UK's position on accession to the CPTPP. There were three reasons given:
- Securing increased trade and investment opportunities that will help the UK economy overcome the unprecedented challenge posed by coronavirus. Joining CPTPP would open up new opportunities for UK exporters in strategically important sectors and helping to support an industrial revival in the UK.
- Helping the United Kingdom diversify trading links and supply chains, and in doing so increasing economic security at a time of heightened uncertainty and disruption in the world.
- Assisting the UK's future place in the world and advancing the UK's longer-term interests. CPTPP membership is an important part of our strategy to place the UK at the centre of a modern, progressive network of free trade agreements with dynamic economies. Doing so would turn the UK into a global hub for businesses and investors wanting to trade with the rest of the world.
2) The UK government has not produced an impact assessment that explains or quantifies the benefits it expects for the UK economy from accession to CPTPP.[89] As such, it is a matter of dispute in UK as to whether accession is worth pursuing for economic reasons.[90] Farmer, environmental and consumer groups have all raised concerns that the UK government will need to agree to lowering standards on pesticides, pig welfare and food labelling.[91] These concerns have also been raised by the Scottish government.[92]
In June 2021, the CPTPP states agreed to open accession talks. A working group is expected to be established to discuss tariffs and rules governing investment and trade. The UK is not expected to accede to the CPTPP until 2022 at the earliest.[93]
3) Economist José Gabriel Palma has criticized the treaty for severely restricting the sovereignty of the signatories.[113] Signatories are subject to international courts and have restrictions on what their state-owned enterprises can do.[114] According to Palma the treaty makes it difficult for countries to implement policies aimed to diversify exports thus becoming a so-called middle income trap.[113] Palma also accuses that the treaty is reinforcing unequal relations by being drafted to reflect the laws of the United States.[114]
Plus the UK already have roll-over deals from the EU with most of them. Not NZ, Aus, Malaysia or Brunei yet.
This isn't an ordinary clusterfeck, it's a Brexit clusterfeck.
Marks & Spencer blames Brexit as it closes 11 French stores
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58582860
Marks & Spencer blames Brexit as it closes 11 French stores
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58582860
I didn't know that Marks & Spencer existed in France.
They had about 19 stores around Paris and one in Lille.
Rules on GM farming and cars to be top of UK bonfire of EU laws
Minister reveals plans to change laws inherited from EU, with rules on medical devices also in crosshairs
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/16/rules-gm-farming-cars-top-uk-bonfire-eu-laws-brexit
Great. We are going to be the wild west of deregulation. Expect some major feck ups due to lack of regulation in the coming years.
Minister reveals plans to change laws inherited from EU, with rules on medical devices also in crosshairs
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/16/rules-gm-farming-cars-top-uk-bonfire-eu-laws-brexit
Great. We are going to be the wild west of deregulation. Expect some major feck ups due to lack of regulation in the coming years.
KFC. Healthy food at last.
Wait till they start trying to export anything.
They will blame Brexit but I am curious to know whether those stores were ever profitable to begin with.
Are imperial measures even still taught in schools in the UK?
No and shipping documents must be in metric. Their wares won't be going anywhere.
And if their wares don't comply with the standards of the countries they're trying to sell to, it's a double whammy.
Brexit Suicide Cult now on turbo-charge.
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This seems like such a bit of silly nostalgia!
(Returning to imperial measures I mean, not you Paul.
)No, that's why it's possible now, because it's pretty irrelevant. And if some old gadger wants to sell his black puddings in pounds on Bury market and his doddering old customers like it who cares? It will be absolutely gutting for him to find his multi-million pound export wagon being turned back at Calais customs though.
Of course it could be the start of a genuine reversal of metrification but is there anyone here actually dim enough to consider that's going to happen? You can make your own mind up on that one.
Another tinpot idea to appeal to the Brexit supporters to demonstrate some kind of victory trying to ignore the big elephant shitshow in the room.
If for some reason starting tomorrow it was decided that every home in Britain will have it's toilet removed and everyone had to use a chamber pot going forward. The DUP would rip their own toilets out.
anyone who argues for Brexit being a WIN on the basis of imperial measurements becoming more a thing, is way past reasoning with.
some great threads on twitter from measurement experts (some in the employ of UK govt agencies) tearing this idea to pieces. some of the responses to them from brexit mainacs are mind boggling.
some great threads on twitter from measurement experts (some in the employ of UK govt agencies) tearing this idea to pieces. some of the responses to them from brexit mainacs are mind boggling.
Brexiters will have their ideal Britain soon
White people eating spam sandwiches at tea time before the lights go out.
White people eating spam sandwiches at tea time before the lights go out.