Mrs Smoker
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God bless, Dutch guy.
Because you made comments where you clearly didn't read my post.A debate, or a conversation even, involves listening to the other person and responding accordingly. You haven't, on multiple occasions. You keep repeating a point I've already agreed with, and when reminded so, repeated yourself again.
Wild jumps of assumption thrown in too, don't make for a constructive debate/conversation.
Exactly, sainz could have had a chance of doing both and finishing first while Lewis and max blocked each other, but he had 4 cars in his way. It was an utter farce, I still can’t believe itI wonder about other teams down the order, some cars ahead were allowed to overtake and some not to get the race underway with Max on fresh tyres to make a race of it.
How many teams lost and gained final positions due to this, we know how critical the funding is with each position, it seems really unfair for some teams to lose out if indeed that did happen, I've not checked the points but we could have some other teams calling this out. Surely you get the whole field back in order or you don't before restarting.
It's hard to see them overturning anything, it looks even more farcical to the wider audience.
But no one knows how the rest of it would have went after it. For example what the decisions would have been under the virtual safety car.They aren't equal in any way though.
You are looking at it way to simplistically mate.
Most likely outcome, agreedThe FIA will admit error, give them Massi’s head on a stick - everyone will know it’s a tainted win but it won’t be overturned.
My bet too.The FIA will admit error, give them Massi’s head on a stick - everyone will know it’s a tainted win but it won’t be overturned.
I read all of your posts, but yes, lets.Because you made comments where you clearly didn't read my post.
Either way, let's keep this to f1, not these petty comments.
I hate to agree with you, because I dislike Red Bull with a passion, but you right.Max has 18 top 2 finishes this year, the most by any driver in F1 history. "Undeserved champion" according to some.
The way the season ended doesn't sit right with me, but selective memory on here is hilarious. Baku, Hungary and Silverstone. This WDC should've been sewn up a while ago.
99% certain this is how it will play out.The FIA will admit error, give them Massi’s head on a stick - everyone will know it’s a tainted win but it won’t be overturned.
Hope you stick to it this time. But you're 17 races and 250 posts too late to deny anyone your tears.
Hopefully you can reflect on how awful your posts have been and grow up a bit for next season, or at least make a Lewis v Max fanboy thread and keep the F1 thread clear of the low quality posts and temper tantrums.
Yep, I think this is what’ll happen too.The FIA will admit error, give them Massi’s head on a stick - everyone will know it’s a tainted win but it won’t be overturned.
It is arguable if you look at this race only. Over the course of the season is a different story.Max has 18 top 2 finishes this year, the most by any driver in F1 history. "Undeserved champion" according to some.
The way the season ended doesn't sit right with me, but selective memory on here is hilarious. Baku, Hungary and Silverstone. This WDC should've been sewn up a while ago.
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Lets be honest the race director fecked up big time, but it must stand or F1 will be turned into a laughing stock.The FIA will admit error, give them Massi’s head on a stick - everyone will know it’s a tainted win but it won’t be overturned.
What a statWorth pointing out that Mazepin managed to finish 21st in the championship in a sport with 20 cars.
Impressive.
Worth pointing out that Mazepin managed to finish 21st in the championship in a sport with 20 cars.
Impressive.
You make a good valid pointA bit surprised why overturning the race, applying the proper rules, would be seen as more of a farce than having the result stand with completely made up rules.
Max's tyres were always getting shot, and that incident wasn't cut and dried as to what happened. The stewards think he forced that situation, not sure I agree with that, but he still had to pit when he pitted. Nothing changed as a result of that in terms of tyres/strategy.But no one knows how the rest of it would have went after it. For example what the decisions would have been under the virtual safety car.
Nobody is saying Max wouldn't have been a worthy winner if he won this race on merit, then fair play.Max has 18 top 2 finishes this year, the most by any driver in F1 history. "Undeserved champion" according to some.
The way the season ended doesn't sit right with me, but selective memory on here is hilarious. Baku, Hungary and Silverstone. This WDC should've been sewn up a while ago.
Because the gap between the first 3 and everybody else was massive which basically gives him a free pit stop as he'll still come out in the same position and lost out on 5-10 seconds to Lewis instead of the 25 seconds he would have in a normal pitstop.Also have another question. How was max able to pit and catch up to Lewis?
Don't they all have to drop their speed to let's say "X". If they are all doing "X" speed, how does he close the initial gap and the pit stop time without breaking some speed regulation?
Hamilton fans not taking it as well as their driver.I remember my first F1 race.
I agree entirely. But won’t be what happens, sadly.A bit surprised why overturning the race, applying the proper rules, would be seen as more of a farce than having the result stand with completely made up rules.
Finished behind a one-armed man who had a go in an Alfa for a couple of races, no less.Worth pointing out that Mazepin managed to finish 21st in the championship in a sport with 20 cars.
Impressive.
Would absolutely love the replies from Max fans if the result was overturned. Sadly it won't happen.A bit surprised why overturning the race, applying the proper rules, would be seen as more of a farce than having the result stand with completely made up rules.
Finished behind a one-armed man who had a go in an Alfa for a couple of races, no less.
It’s already a farce - at least this would be a farce ending up with the correct race winner based on today’s race. Either way it’s going to CAS.Lets be honest the race director fecked up big time, but it must stand or F1 will be turned into a laughing stock.
It might have been exciting for the causal odd race watching but for the fans it was a disgrace.
I wanted Lewis to win, but there is no way I want him winning by appeal.
I have read posts saying he will walk away from F1, I say not a chance , he will be back next season wanting his title back and fighting for it.
Worth pointing out that Mazepin managed to finish 21st in the championship in a sport with 20 cars.
Impressive.
That's not what I asked exactly but someone else got what I meant and replied. Thanks.Because the gap between the first 3 and everybody else was massive which basically gives him a free pit stop as he'll still come out in the same position and lost out on 5-10 seconds to Lewis instead of the 25 seconds he would have in a normal pitstop.
Whatever they are I could never unhear how much he sounds like kermit the frog on team radio.Penny for Latifi’s thoughts?
Norris was especially candid.They all clearly know this isn't good for F1.
When even the sky mouthpieces are struggling to raise any kind of enthusiasm, you know what they all truly think.