ArjenIsM3
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For me this shows that the rules need to change regarding safety cars. Ending a race under safety cars shouldn't be allowed. I think the American system of extending the race should be considered for F1.
Now this is a meltdown among meltdowns. Top, top effort.Massive twist of protocol to find away to take it away from the only black driver who had the balls to wear a rainbow helmet in the middle east ...
Fuel.For me this shows that the rules need to change regarding safety cars. Ending a race under safety cars shouldn't be allowed. I think the American system of extending the race should be considered for F1.
That explains why they never considered me for an F1 driver as well, I’m brown and obviously the FIA want white domination. Or it could be that I am not good enough for F1. Probably the former though.Yup...if nobody was unlapped Lewis won
If everybody unlapped the race was over and Lewis won
Massive twist of protocol to find away to take it away from the only black driver who had the balls to wear a rainbow helmet in the middle east ...
Bit of an over reaction here from you.What do you want to happen? That RB just willingly go and give the title to Ham and Mercedes? They did nothing wrong. Why should they be punished?
Yeah British people are historically so marginalized and the media does NOTHING. It's disgusting.Yup...if nobody was unlapped Lewis won
If everybody unlapped the race was over and Lewis won
Massive twist of protocol to find away to take it away from the only black driver who had the balls to wear a rainbow helmet in the middle east ...
Toto vs Horner in the ringThe way they like creating this WWE/Netflix drama they'll probably arrange a 1 on 1 drag race between Max and Hamilton to settle it once and for all
Wow what a calamity, so the shortfalls are behind the FIA. Sounds like the equivalent of FIFA officials, seems a lack of effort to follow the sports legislation carry across most sports today.There are plenty of experts on here but I think the gist is that a group of cars should have been allowed to change track position but they decided to only let the ones between Max and Lewis do it.
The suggestion is if they'd let all cars do so, they would have run out of laps and the title decided behind a safety car.
The allegation is they bent (broke) the rules to clear a route for Max and give him a final shot at Lewis.... on new tyres
Did they change the rules to specifically fek you over ?That explains why they never considered me for an F1 driver as well, I’m brown and obviously the FIA want white domination. Or it could be that I am not good enough for F1. Probably the former though.
Not blaming Red Bull at all where did I state that?What do you want to happen? That RB just willingly go and give the title to Ham and Mercedes? They did nothing wrong. Why should they be punished?
Problem is they're fueled for a certain amount of laps and most of them run under the required amount already.For me this shows that the rules need to change regarding safety cars. Ending a race under safety cars shouldn't be allowed. I think the American system of extending the race should be considered for F1.
BTW I'm not British so yah etcYeah British people are historically so marginalized and the media does NOTHING. It's disgusting.
Bad week for Hamilton anyway, lost this and Carlisle have put Stevenage into the relegation zone in a serious six point game.
Honestly mate I'm as annoyed as you are but you can't throw accusations like that around.Yup...if nobody was unlapped Lewis won
If everybody unlapped the race was over and Lewis won
Massive twist of protocol to find away to take it away from the only black driver who had the balls to wear a rainbow helmet in the middle east ...
It's not really possible in F1 though, fuel is calculated to the absolute last drop. You can't extend races because of the lack of re-fuelling, we would end with Formula E style last laps where they run out of battery, it's stupid.For me this shows that the rules need to change regarding safety cars. Ending a race under safety cars shouldn't be allowed. I think the American system of extending the race should be considered for F1.
Agree with this - Lewis was robbed.Bloody useless! Ruined everything. So Hamilton was 11 seconds in front with 5 cars between them and 7 laps to go, and FIA decides to put them side to side on the last lap with Verstappen on new tyres and Hamilton on tires that have done 40 laps.
The problem with that is that the cars these days put the fuel down to x% of a litre to finish the race + 1 lap. Hence if they drove around for 5 extra laps because the race was extended, the cars wouldn't be able to finish.For me this shows that the rules need to change regarding safety cars. Ending a race under safety cars shouldn't be allowed. I think the American system of extending the race should be considered for F1.
I’d pay for this if we could guarantee the outcomeToto vs Horner in the ring
So there are two parts Merc are protesting.Which part specifically is unfair if you look at the rules though? This is a genuine noob question.
Hah I stand by it...Honestly mate I'm as annoyed as you are but you can't throw accusations like that around.
The FIA have long wanted a new champion, but that would have been the case no matter the race of whoever was dominating.
Think you need to take that one back, put it down to heightened emotions, and focus on the actual injustice rather than speculating for reasons that aren't justifiable.
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Really, you posted this and thought it was OK !!!Yup...if nobody was unlapped Lewis won
If everybody unlapped the race was over and Lewis won
Massive twist of protocol to find away to take it away from the only black driver who had the balls to wear a rainbow helmet in the middle east ...
Not sure thats a fair fight for Horner. But then again, Horner would probably bring a knife and stab Toto or something.Toto vs Horner in the ring
So Lewis had lapped every car on the track. Usually when there is a safety car EVERY lapped car is told that they are allowed unlap themselves to go past the safety car and return to track position behind those that have lapped them. OR you don't allow them to unlap themselves and then restart the race with everyone in the same position as they were when the safety car was called out. What was crazy here is Masi the race director decided that only the five cars between Lewis and Max were allowed to unlap themselves AND THEN immediately call in the safety car (the regulations say that if you were to let cars unlap themselves, the safety car pits the lap after the final car has unlapped itself - which would have meant the safety car staying out until the end of the race). This is against all the agreed upon regulations and just meant that Max who had fresh and softer tires was no allowed to get right behind Lewis (when he previously was like 13 seconds behind / had 5 lapped cars to pass).Sorry struggling to understand from googling, what does unlapping mean with regards to the 5 cars between Lewis and Max, they're allowed to go past the safety car before everyone else while Lewis, Max and everyone else wait behind the safety car?
Yup doe either and Lewis winsSo there are two parts Merc are protesting.
1. The restart from the safety car, either all overtaken cars have to overtake or none at all, but only the ones between Lewis and Max ended up overtaking, which was done to ensure the last lap was "raced", if all of them passed, the race probably would've probably ended behind the SC and Lewis would've won. On top of this, I think (correct me if i'm wrong), there has to be a full lap completed under the SC once the cars have unlapped themselves?
2. Max briefly overtook Lewis under the SC, so trying to get him a 5sec penalty here.
A good point.One particular view I take issue with is the idea of “you can’t punish Max because the FIA got it wrong”. The only reason Max had the opportunity to pass was because the FIA got it wrong. Correcting a wrong decision shouldn’t not happen because someone loses out.
Gerri will knock him off for the inheritance soon don’t worry.Christ I just realised Horner is only 48, we have another 20 years of his burly hemorrhoid face filling our screens.
I’d pay for this if we could guarantee the outcome
What caused the overtake or is that irrelevant?What do we think about the overtaking during SC protest? It seems frivolous to me but he does go ahead of Hamilton so if the stewards want to correct everything they could give him a 5 second penalty…
Tbf I've not had the world championship stolen by a bunch of homophic racists so it could be worseReally, you posted this and thought it was OK !!!
Think you need to log for a while , this post is a new low.
You have not had a good day have you.
Exactly. Max is a great driver and will win a WC one day. He doesn't need to be given championships by Michael Masi. Ridiculous.A good point.
A lot of the unhappiness here isn’t directed towards Max.
He’s a fantastic driver and for me equally deserving of the title.
But he wouldn’t have been there but for a balls up at the end of this race.
I think Merc have to protest it. But that happens so often when the pack is being backed up on a safety car restart and is never penalised. Lewis was 3-4 car lengths ahead at the safety car line.What do we think about the overtaking during SC protest? It seems frivolous to me but he does go ahead of Hamilton so if the stewards want to correct everything they could give him a 5 second penalty…