Yeah, given the death threats Glock got in 08, would be horrible to be him right now.
F1 2021 Season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Fair enough. As a neutral, I'm glad there were allowed that final racing lap but I also grasp that it was unfair how it unfolded.
Well, that was anticlimatic.
Merit? Max was not making the calls, stewards/FIA did. He made most of the situation which opened up for him, which in this case was a one lap dash and he made it work.Nobody is saying Max wouldn't have been a worthy winner if he won this race on merit, then fair play.
Nobody can say that ending wasn't shambolic. The whole race was abandoned and settled on 1 lap
Besides, I'm obviously talking about the season as a whole. That's why I quoted a stat of 18 top 2 finishes. Max deserves this, ending wasn't ideal, but that doesn't mean he didn't drive his ass off all year to get to this point. Folks are right to bring up Hamiltons' misfortune today, but at the same time, Verstappen had his in Baku, Silverstone and Hungary.
And the amazing fortune Lewis had in Imola, where he should have finished last after spending a full minute doing donuts in the gravel but still finished second.
Max was unfortunate in Baku and Hungary, Silverstone he takes partial blame for. He also brake checked his main competitor and got away with it.
Does he deserve to be champion? Yes, is it justice? No.
If you want to talk about misfortune and justice, Lewis is probably a 10 time world champion by now. Just enjoy it Max fans, justification as to why its deserved isn't required.
Does he deserve to be champion? Yes, is it justice? No.
If you want to talk about misfortune and justice, Lewis is probably a 10 time world champion by now. Just enjoy it Max fans, justification as to why its deserved isn't required.
I guess it’s a matter of debate, but generally I think most people were of the view that going into this race both drivers have done great and both were deserving. And I think it’s in this context that people say “underserved” - not because he didn’t over the season, but because both did and the way it was won today was not deserved.
Absolute novice but I've kept watch due to the hype around this season. Can anyone explain in simplistic terms what the controversy is regarding the race.
Well done Max! Deserved title win over the course of the season, and after all the bad luck he’s had. He’s been the better driver over this season for me. Hopefully the first of many to come. Him and Lewis have been on another level compared to the rest. End of the race, I’m pretty sure my heart was going faster than these cars
Mercedes in the second half of seasons is something else. They turn the heat on like crazy, and the cars seem to get way faster. Ham gracious in defeat, doubt anyone else in the grid could have been composed in that situation. Respect. Having 7 titles probably helps though
Mercedes in the second half of seasons is something else. They turn the heat on like crazy, and the cars seem to get way faster. Ham gracious in defeat, doubt anyone else in the grid could have been composed in that situation. Respect. Having 7 titles probably helps though
That’s just Christian Horner’s face.
Max drove brilliantly this year, but even with 18 top 2 finishes, not including the last race, Max and Lewis were tied in points going into this weekend. So Lewis drove well also and equally to Max, to make the final race such a spectacle for what it meant.
Lewis totally dominated today, nobody can dispute that. But as Horner said with about 10 laps to go, RB needed a miracle that was the crash AND Masi changing the racing rules for the sake of entertainment and NOT racing integrity/merit.
Someone talk me through this
Yea
Horner was just popping in to drop off Masi's Verstappen WDC T-Shirt.
Masi already had one of those, since Brazil
He crashed, damaged his wing, lost a minute in the gravel trap.
Then through amazing fortune Bottas and Russell crashed and the race was red flagged. Lewis got to un-lap himself while off track and get a full repair on his wing damage. And ended up finishing second. So because of the dodgy rules he finished second despite driving 1 lap less than the cars behind him.
The race director will take the bullet for this and he will be the fall guy but the result won’t be changed
What a joke of a sport
What a joke of a sport
There are plenty of experts on here but I think the gist is that a group of cars should have been allowed to change track position but they decided to only let the ones between Max and Lewis do it.
The suggestion is if they'd let all cars do so, they would have run out of laps and the title decided behind a safety car.
The allegation is they bent (broke) the rules to clear a route for Max and give him a final shot at Lewis.... on new tyres
Sorry struggling to understand from googling, what does unlapping mean with regards to the 5 cars between Lewis and Max, they're allowed to go past the safety car before everyone else while Lewis, Max and everyone else wait behind the safety car?
But it wasn’t a racing lap. It was a sitting duck lap
What do you want to happen? That RB just willingly go and give the title to Ham and Mercedes? They did nothing wrong. Why should they be punished?
Mercedes will be threatening to stop selling them engines if he's still around
I wonder if Mercedes has a realistic strategy argument to be made here. Surely they didn't expect it the situation to unfold the way it did, otherwise they would have pitted Lewis.
He’s not saying they should be punished.
More that the rules should be consistently and correctly applied.
Yup...if nobody was unlapped Lewis won
If everybody unlapped the race was over and Lewis won
Massive twist of protocol to find away to take it away from the only black driver who had the balls to wear a rainbow helmet in the middle east ...
Come on mate...
You’re a joke.
Yep, whatever you say bud.
I totally agree. Their indecision and inconsistency has cost both teams potential race wins or more points. Hell, not just the top 2, but everyone. It’s a joke that a sport which is so rich has the governing body and stewards which rely more on vibes than anything.
Nice one.
Is there amore logical reason they made it up as they went along?
Threads a bit of fun and games but this is such a hideous take. Sort yourself out.
Really?
Jesus christ
I think if the accident and safety car are 10 laps from the end, then Merc likely make the call to pit Hamilton, lose track position and take Softs to challenge Verstappen who would be on fresher Hards than Hamilton but still at a disadvantage. Challenge for Hamilton then is that Verstappen would be super aggressive in defense due to his advantage if they both DNF, which is the trump card he's held since after Mexico.
Bloody useless! Ruined everything. So Hamilton was 11 seconds in front with 5 cars between them and 7 laps to go, and FIA decides to put them side to side on the last lap with Verstappen on new tyres and Hamilton on tires that have done 40 laps.
Thanks.