So pleased that you are happy then.over the season i believe the best man won.
So pleased that you are happy then.over the season i believe the best man won.
Would interpret it as deployment of SC as well, but like you said, very vagueYou can definitely argue “use of safety car” is exceptionally vague - to me it means when a safety car is to be used - the rules for the procedure of withdrawing are laid out clearly. They weren’t followed.
Well we know at that point you'll still be WUM'ing the thread.If they fail at CAS what's next, the US supreme Court?
If it's open to interpretation it wont go anywhere.Be very wary of what Hobs posts.
Also, that rule isn't black and white, in fact it's incredibly open to interpretation by CAS.
Judge RinderIf they fail at CAS what's next, the US supreme Court?
they shouldn’t be allowed to take it to a court of sport. the fia have clearly stated that the rules can be made up by the director on the fly and the teams just have to put up with it. that’s not a sport: i’m not a conspiracy nut but as a result, a race director with an agenda can manufacture a result.If they fail at CAS what's next, the US supreme Court?
sorry but WWE has never been a sport. It is manufactured tripe.This exactly like in Wrestlemania 9 when Yokozuna beat Bret Hart for the title, only for the ref to randomly allow Hulk Hogan to immediately challenge (and beat) a tired Yokozuna and win the belt.
Powers that be changing the rules to entertain.
Pro-Wrestling and F1 = Sports Entertainment.
If Max hadn't overtaken Hamilton, that was next on his list... pulling Hamilton over three bends of the finish for a random breathalyser checkI mean just look at some of his powers according to this list
"The stopping of any car in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations."
sorry but WWE has never been a sport. It is manufactured tripe.
I’m not English and never really been a fan of Hamilton. That ending made a mockery of the sport.Everybody not following Lewis disagree's with this.
It's Damon 94 all over again
Salty english fans and everybody else lapping it up
You think this is the sport with the most financial disparity between teams?People honestly talk of fairness in a "sport" that has the most financial disparity between teams?!
To conform with racing vocabulary, get a grip.
It was always going to be the case. Same for Perez and Bottas.One thing that I do think is important to note.. A hell of a lot of people were thinking Max would drive like a twat today and deliberately hit Lewis. He didn’t. And he had the chance on lap 1.
Max drove well and has driven well for the entire season (apart from the stupid moments he’s had). But fair play to him. He’s made it a very exciting season and this won’t be his only WC.
The sport is being damaged by the FIA. Overruling would bring a little more credibility to the sport and hopefully overhaul Masi and Co.
The appeal should go to the top.
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he wont, he is the World ChampionAbsolute joke of a circus.
Hamilton should have won that. I am still astonished hours on how they dealt with it.
People say that Verstappen won’t care - he will. Massive asterisk against his name in many people’s eyes for the foreseeable future. He had a phenomenal season, but that doesn’t dismiss the comeback Hamilton made to claw himself back into title contention and the drive he pulled off for 58 of the laps today before being the subsequent shitshow.
it’s been a good result for him. i really didn’t want him before today with his sound bites and hypocrisy but circumstances have mellowed me. not his fault it ended how it did. someone just decided he should get the chance to win it that his performances deserved this year.One thing that I do think is important to note.. A hell of a lot of people were thinking Max would drive like a twat today and deliberately hit Lewis. He didn’t. And he had the chance on lap 1.
Max drove well and has driven well for the entire season (apart from the stupid moments he’s had). But fair play to him. He’s made it a very exciting season and this won’t be his only WC.
That holds true for basically every official in every sport.they shouldn’t be allowed to take it to a court of sport. the fia have clearly stated that the rules can be made up by the director on the fly and the teams just have to put up with it. that’s not a sport: i’m not a conspiracy nut but as a result, a race director with an agenda can manufacture a result.
F1 literally has a "Constructors Championship" title for the manufacturers. It's not tripe but it's certainly "manufactured".sorry but WWE has never been a sport. It is manufactured tripe.
what agenda did he have?they shouldn’t be allowed to take it to a court of sport. the fia have clearly stated that the rules can be made up by the director on the fly and the teams just have to put up with it. that’s not a sport: i’m not a conspiracy nut but as a result, a race director with an agenda can manufacture a result.
not really. what happened today is akin to the ref deciding what is a goal and what isn’t a goal, despite having a clear rule set laid out in the rules.That holds true for basically every official in every sport.
I agree. But it's not black and white.If it's open to interpretation it wont go anywhere.
That is that then. No way CAS overrules that.Article 15.3
The Race Director shall have overriding authority in the following matters and the clerk of the course may give orders in respect of them only with his express agreement:
a) The control of practice and the race, adherence to the timetable and, if he deems it necessary, the making of any proposal to the stewards to modify the timetable in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations.
b) The stopping of any car in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations.
c) The stopping of practice or suspension of the race in accordance with the Sporting Regulations if he deems it unsafe to continue and ensuring that the correct restart procedure is carried out.
d) The starting procedure.
e) The use of the safety car.
This rule will probably mean any Merc appeals are batted away both internally and at CAS.
cant disagree with thatF1 literally has a "Constructors Championship" title for the manufacturers. It's not tripe but it's certainly "manufactured".
I was joking about WWE but F1 is not and has never been a sport. It's a fascinating engineering contest with some wonky rules. It's closer to Robot Wars than it is to the 400meter dash.
i’m not saying he had one. the fia have made it clear that the race director has authority to ignore certain rules if they want to. that means a bad race director, say a race director that has had most people moaning at him all year, can contrive a result as they seem fit, with maybe what brings the best stories or the highest social media engagement in mind.what agenda did he have?
Horner made that one clear both during and after the race tbf.what agenda did he have?
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Scripting a spectacle over following standard procedure?what agenda did he have?
I doubt it. Look what this has done. Its like Sepp Blatter not wanting tech so that everyone is talking about the decisions.That is that then. No way CAS overrules that.
But in my view, that merely means when the safety car should be used and not how it should be used. But I agree with others, it is frustratingly vague. Hopefully we see clearer rules in the future.
He's not saying has an agenda but saying that one with an agenda could make his own result.what agenda did he have?
This is definitive of myself. Gave F1 a try, I really enjoy cars generally but watching so many laps can be slightly boring imo. Boxing, Football and NBA in no particular order.What a mess that was.
Forget who won, that race had more attention on it than any in about 20 years and for it to be decided by a farcical race director/steward decision... that's probably turned off 90% of the potential new fans they had in the making.
There is no way Michael Masi can continue in his position next season.
completely agreeit’s been a good result for him. i really didn’t want him before today with his sound bites and hypocrisy but circumstances have mellowed me. not his fault it ended how it did. someone just decided he should get the chance to win it that his performances deserved this year.
There will always be opinions in any sport and I’d quite happily say I have a differing opinion on silverstone but it’s irrelevant. Season is over, one of them was going to win and whoever it was deserves it because it’s been a pretty great season with every kind of drama you could think of.Agreed but I also don't think a title should be determined by one race like Silverstone when one driver takes out another and the penalty received has no bearing and gains 25 points over his rival as a result.
There has been many bad calls throughout this season, including Lewis not being punished today. Bottais held up Max when Lewis was pitting last week, totally ignored by everyone, Hamilton pushed Verstappen off last week again no penalty.
Both drivers have benefited from poor decisions this season if people judge it objectively IMHO.
Withdraw from f1... pull engines from mclaren aston and WilliamsIf they fail at CAS what's next, the US supreme Court?
One day people will get it...Scripting a spectacle over following standard procedure?
I doubt it. Look what this has done. Its like Sepp Blatter not wanting tech so that everyone is talking about the decisions.
To be completely honest I would not want any championship to be decided on the whim of the racing director fixing it and creating a "miracle" in the final laps. For any team/driver.Whilst you and others would have a completely different viewpoint if the roles were reversed lets be completely honest.
What I am saying is that in any officiated sport the referees can change the result in case they wish to. So that does not make it different than other sports.not really. what happened today is akin to the ref deciding what is a goal and what isn’t a goal, despite having a clear rule set laid out in the rules.
No, refs don't have overarching power over rules. They may apply them wrong or make mistakes, but they're not paid go against them because he feels like itWhat I am saying is that in any officiated sport the referees can change the result in case they wish to. So that does not make it different than other sports.