Still, embarrassing mistake to make, being your nan’s funeral and all. But, tbf to you, four years old or not, she was taking liberties parking her wheelchair there.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Run them down with a few trolleys nested to maintain the 2 metre distance, would be my suggestion.
Alternatively, they do what my dad did - test negative on a LFT so decide it's definitely a flu they're suffering from and don't bother with a PCR. So many people seem so utterly confused about what they should be doing. I'm just glad I kept my decent mask on when I dropped his food round while he was in the tick of it!
I think the government is testing the waters, we are pretty well vaccinated in this country and the booster campaign has gone ok.Boorish Johnson is perhaps the worst prime minister in modern times. Anyone who catches COVID beyond the 20th of December the government are totally at blame. Doesn't matter if the NHS aren't overloaded lockdown should have been initiated before Christmas.
They are supposedly trying to preserve an economyif the cases continue to be above the million mark do they really think consumers will have demands for anything outside the pharmaceutical markets.
Omicron might cause more mild symptoms but its rate of spreading illness is unlike anything since the whole pandemic initiated.
At some point we have to take the virus on so to speak otherwise we will just keep going in and out of lockdowns which will eventually do irreversible damage to the economy.
Its a brave decision in the face of every other country putting some sort of restrictions in place and the case numbers skyrocketing but the truth of the matter will be how hospitals cope the lockdowns are the protect the healthservice to stop it from being overwhelmed, if they belive that the hospitals will cope than they won't lockdown.
Whatever happens, if you are worried than you can lock yourself down and only leave the house for essential things until this current wave ends, just because the government haven't told you too doesn't mean you can't.
Using a throat swab on the LFT might lower the early negative result as well. Reading Omicron can be in the throat days before it shows up in nasal mucus. Makes sense and what I believe occurred with me.
Bit of a weird question but are you allowed to drink while having it? I tested positive the other day but I've had two bottles of wine eyeing me up all week.
The big question with opening schools is well there be enough teachers to actually open schools
Peoples worst mistake, trusting a negative on an LFT, especially on a one time
Which is we still need pcr tests and can't just tell people to lft and then follow that result.
There are several ways of interpreting the current situation.
On the political side, I am very pessimistic and I hope the UK won't adopt further freedom-destroying measures as currently in effect in Continental Europe. Going to the pub will soon require a QR code before ordering...
From a health perspective, the following chart makes me rather optimistic
Quality post full of wisdom.
The number of cases is an important criteria, but shouldn't be the Alpha and Omega.
no, you shouldnt drink, obviously
This graph makes me weirdly angry. Being in 5 month intervals just seems wrong, 3, 4 or 6 all go into 12 months perfectlyThere are several ways of interpreting the current situation.
On the political side, I am very pessimistic and I hope the UK won't adopt further freedom-destroying measures as currently in effect in Continental Europe. Going to the pub will soon require a QR code before ordering...
From a health perspective, the following chart makes me rather optimistic
Who are you asking permission from to be allowed to drink alcohol?
Deaths, as callous as it might sound, but hospitalisations is. It is brutal as the last update, from 27th shows nearly 2k hospitalisations, if that keeps going up at this rate then lockdowns will be inevitable.There are several ways of interpreting the current situation.
On the political side, I am very pessimistic and I hope the UK won't adopt further freedom-destroying measures as currently in effect in Continental Europe. Going to the pub will soon require a QR code before ordering...
From a health perspective, the following chart makes me rather optimistic
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Currently about 12,000 people in hospital for Covid in the UK:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/current-covid-patients-hospital?country=~GBR
For context the highest since the pandemic started was around 39,000 people.
Even hospitalisations can be misleading, with a big overlap between people admitted for covid vs admitted with covid (as well as loads of outbreaks within hospitals)
The really key metric to look at over the next few weeks will be number of covid patients on a ventilator.
Yes but then combine that with the fact that NHS staff absences went up 30% in the last week, and the threshold for overrunning resources drops significantly.
Yes, but this time the NHS is in trouble of having less staff as all going sick which is a huge problem.
Now banning everyone that isn't a patient from entering.
People need to remember that regardless of whether patients are in the hospital with covid (but primary reason being another) or because of covid, it still causes a strain because it forces them to be isolated which means that rooms where more patients could stay become single-patient rooms, it forces healthcare personnel to perform their job in full PPE which leads to fatigue and patients whose covid status is unknown end up infecting healthcare workers which leads to (even more) understaffing.
I’m pretty sick of it all to be honest. Mostly I’m sick of the spineless antivaxxers who are so strong in their anti-science beliefs until they get sick, at which point they come running to the hospital hoping that science will bail them out. I wouldn’t have an issue with antivaxxers if they just stuck to their beliefs once they got sick and stayed at home to really test the strength of their natural immune systems, instead of going to the hospital and then accepting to get a load of drugs that they definitely don’t know the long-term effects of. Twats.
I’m pretty sick of it all to be honest. Mostly I’m sick of the spineless antivaxxers who are so strong in their anti-science beliefs until they get sick, at which point they come running to the hospital hoping that science will bail them out. I wouldn’t have an issue with antivaxxers if they just stuck to their beliefs once they got sick and stayed at home to really test the strength of their natural immune systems, instead of going to the hospital and then accepting to get a load of drugs that they definitely don’t know the long-term effects of. Twats.
At least he isn't #scottyfrommarketing - cold comfort I know.Boorish Johnson is perhaps the worst prime minister in modern times. Anyone who catches COVID beyond the 20th of December the government are totally at blame. Doesn't matter if the NHS aren't overloaded lockdown should have been initiated before Christmas.
They are supposedly trying to preserve an economy
Omicron might cause more mild symptoms but its rate of spreading illness is unlike anything since the whole pandemic initiated.
I only pointed out another important statistic (which is missing from the UK Government dashboard aside from the daily number). I was not commenting on how well the NHS is or is not coping. In response though, yes, the high number is very alarming indeed.
We have been doing this for over a year and to date it hasn't proven to be how Nazi Germany started. In fact it has been a great reassurance as you get automated contact alerts through the same app. It was even better when you could only scan in if vaccinated. That said some sensible pubs still require you to be vaccinated which are the only ones I'll go to.
NSW reducing restriction at the same time as Omicron has destroyed confidence and people have started to stay home in droves. NYE was very quiet and even many young people stayed home. My son is 23 and he stayed home with us as did all his mates for the first time in forever.
Many of the measures you dislike give you more freedom, not remove it.
Just had a great New Year and everywhere we went we had to scan in and also bars and resturaunts required us to have our vaccine passports scanned. Super easy and no hassle at all. For those unvaccinated if they supplied proof of a negative test result with 72 hours they were allowed in too.
We have been doing this for over a year and to date it hasn't proven to be how Nazi Germany started. In fact it has been a great reassurance as you get automated contact alerts through the same app. It was even better when you could only scan in if vaccinated. That said some sensible pubs still require you to be vaccinated which are the only ones I'll go to.
NSW reducing restriction at the same time as Omicron has destroyed confidence and people have started to stay home in droves. NYE was very quiet and even many young people stayed home. My son is 23 and he stayed home with us as did all his mates for the first time in forever.
Many of the measures you dislike give you more freedom, not remove it.
Summertime and still not feeling like Im living in a prison nation the way its being portayed elsewhere, if this is prison give me a life sentence.
Hope everyone had a great New year and that things get better for everyone in 2022
I was in Germany recently with their 3G system and it was brilliant. Heaven forbid we ask people to prove they aren't going to infect 80% of the pub
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I feel like a bit of a dick for constantly sharing tweets minimising the threat of omicron because, as @Anustart89 said, even if the overall outcomes are less severe this wave is going to cause an absolute shit show for the health service. That’s basically guaranteed at this point. Under staffed over worked and an inevitable negative effect on all health services.
Still, though, it is good to kick 2022 off with some hope. Look at that red line!
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Whatever about the differences in variants, that is an absolute boot to the jaw of any anti-vax moron.
The SA data is great but there’s two key caveats: We have a much older population and they have twice our excess deaths so previous waves have hospitalised/killed those susceptible. The next 3/4 weeks are going to be very difficult. Cases and Admissions are increasing rapidly in over 60s:
The saving grace is the level of care needed when in hospital - that does seem to have changed with ventilation/ICU not really increasing:
However, we’re already at 1/3rd of the peak of those in hospital as last year (a slightly higher percentage are incidental but the bollocks from the daily Mail saying 70% are incidental is just that: bollocks - around 65% are there with COVID as primary diagnosis) and cases are still going up - admissions now hitting 2,300 - they peaked at 3,800 last January - I have no doubt that we’ll get higher than last winter but thankfully I think we’ll have far fewer deaths. That still means a ridiculous strain on the NHS yet again plus the fact so many are off/isolating. Yes hopefully everything will look much rosier from February but the next month is going to be tough.
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The saving grace is the level of care needed when in hospital - that does seem to have changed with ventilation/ICU not really increasing:
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However, we’re already at 1/3rd of the peak of those in hospital as last year (a slightly higher percentage are incidental but the bollocks from the daily Mail saying 70% are incidental is just that: bollocks - around 65% are there with COVID as primary diagnosis) and cases are still going up - admissions now hitting 2,300 - they peaked at 3,800 last January - I have no doubt that we’ll get higher than last winter but thankfully I think we’ll have far fewer deaths. That still means a ridiculous strain on the NHS yet again plus the fact so many are off/isolating. Yes hopefully everything will look much rosier from February but the next month is going to be tough.
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Cases in Ireland are bonkers right now. It’s so damn infectious. I know people who’ve gotten it who haven’t even gone to public gatherings and think it was just in a shop or grabbing a coffee. Interesting few weeks ahead for us.
Yeah, it’s insanely contagious. A really noticeable difference with this wave is when one person catches it, then it’s basically guaranteed the entire household will as well. Every single person I know with covid right now has taken down everyone around them.
Numbers are insane. All I'm hearing about are people I know that got away with it til now and have recently caught it.
Hospital and ICU numbers down today with ICU the lowest I've seen in a while. Those are surely going to increase with 20k+ a day new infections, right?
Am I the only one who likes the QR codes at pubs? Table service instead of wrestling sweaty blokes to get a disinterested bartenders attention? Long may it continue.
The table service is brilliant but I've not been going to pubs much because of the, you know, pandemic running wild and all. They also close at 8pm here now.
I recently had to experience the latter after well over a year of table service only when out, my god I will never go to a busy bar again once this is all over.
Here’s a head-melting stat. We’ve had more covid cases in Ireland over the Christmas holidays than we did in the whole of 2020!
No, you're not. It's been great and I hope it stays.
Yes. Definitely. We just don’t know by how much. As per the last two waves, though, we seem absolutely determined as a nation to push this as far as it will go.