The man is a cnut. We are mugs for putting him there.
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A word from the real power in UK politics
Sort it out or step aside, Tory donor tells Boris Johnson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59956939
Sort it out or step aside, Tory donor tells Boris Johnson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59956939
I totally fail to understand why the investigation is taking so long, assuming it is only looking into Boris Johnson.
Nevertheless, I have little confidence that the outcome will be anything other than smoke and mirrors. Because, if he is indeed found to be guilty of the allegations, it is difficult to see how he could possibly survive as PM.
They'll wait for a massive piece of news to pop up "another big war, aliens putting poison in the water supply etc" and then the investigation will announce that some low level employees were to blame and that'll be that.
Do it
I think you answered your own question...
Just about the same level of expectation as me.
But I do think that this constant drip drip of allegations is having a negative effect on public confidence in the PM.
And as soon as it appears likely that the Tories could lose the next election and Boris will be history.
Labour need to be careful what they wish for. The longer Boris remains Tory leader, the better Labour prospects will be.
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We are living in a simulation, right? How can this possibly be real?
He looks like a bad attempt at a Boris Johnson Memoji.
If the best defense is "the staff like getting pissed at their workplace" then feck knows how they get away with it.
I saw this earlier but didn’t post it. I thought it was parody & I was missing the joke.
Yeah it's good for Labour definitely, might be handy if they don't split the vote. It's a shame that the Conservative Party have shored up nearly the entire Cnut populace
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Mine was better.
Is anyone really surprised? Boris Johnson has always been this guy. He's never tried to be anyone else. The country was stupid enough to believe 'Get Brexit Done' was enough to give him the power to do what he wants and this is the result.
The UK is second only to the US nowadays in terms of the relative stupidity of the average voter.
The UK is second only to the US nowadays in terms of the relative stupidity of the average voter.
Mail breaking the story tonight that Johnson is a liar
So he is done then.
Mail breaking the story tonight that Johnson is a liar
I wonder who they're appointing?
Well shit, I didn’t know that groundbreaking news already
Mail breaking the story tonight that Johnson is a liar
Is anybody really surprised?!?! This is Boris Johnson ffs, it’s not as if nobody had been warned way in advance to what he’s like.
The next general election‘s going to be fascinating because there’s going to be a lot of disgruntled Tory voters, which will be quite unique at an election. Could be very good times for the Lib Dems.
Hopefully the British public will also wake up to the threat of the Murdoch dominated media. Something needs to be done about that.
The next general election‘s going to be fascinating because there’s going to be a lot of disgruntled Tory voters, which will be quite unique at an election. Could be very good times for the Lib Dems.
Hopefully the British public will also wake up to the threat of the Murdoch dominated media. Something needs to be done about that.
“Disgruntled Tory voters” simply hold their nose while voting Tory again. They’ve got a house that needs to keep appreciating in value don’t you know?
Next general election isn’t for a while. This will be long swept under the rug by then. The British public’s memory for anything the tories do is pathetic. Besides they will blame Boris and he won’t make the election anyway.
Opposition need to be targeting the Tories as a whole, not just Boris. They went along with his every move. They are no different. The sad thing would be he is sacked and replaced by another Cnut who the public think is different.
100%. The single reason that Johnson is still PM is because he’s an excellent lightening rod. All of these controversies involve many people within the Tory party, it’s not just him and if he is out the way the focus lands on the wider party.
Right now, there’s nothing at stake. The election isn’t for another couple of years and they have an 80 seat majority. They’ve also got Brexit to deal with and I’m sure they want him to eventually cop the blame for that too.
If Boris has to go, I guess give Theresa until the end of the Parliament?
What all of this shows is just how much control and power the media still have. Boris has not suddenly changed. It's been a shit show for years and this garden party is just one of a litany of scandals that until recently, have been swept under the carpet.
Now they have decided Boris is toast and more of a liability than an asset, the media start hammering him... you know, like they should have been doing all along. Suddenly the polls don't look so pretty for them and his days are numbered.
I'm assuming the media will soon revert back to type when he is replaced. Probably Sunak will take over and then it will be "all hail our glorious leader" again. What a sham of a democracy we live in.
Now they have decided Boris is toast and more of a liability than an asset, the media start hammering him... you know, like they should have been doing all along. Suddenly the polls don't look so pretty for them and his days are numbered.
I'm assuming the media will soon revert back to type when he is replaced. Probably Sunak will take over and then it will be "all hail our glorious leader" again. What a sham of a democracy we live in.
I think thats an oversimplification because the media does not exist cut off from society at large
If you have ever tried to persuade people they are wring about something its difficult and quite frankly people tend to seek out media sources that reflect the opinions they already hold
As such from a commercial point of view if most people have a favourable view of Boris i would be better off allowing that to be reflected in my framing of reporting - equally if that turns then I am better off reflecting that.
With ready access to virtually instant information skewed from whatever viewpoint you like available online its a totally different eco system than the 1980's where people really didnt get any views or insight till the news headlines at 6pm or 9pm then no real further info till the one newspaper they brought the next day - its such a different landscape now and media outlets are chasing the clicks and views ASAP - as such I dont really think they are in the business of shaping opinion any more than they are in the business of reflecting opinion
oh no how will boris wriggle out of this one
He will talk about the wonderful world of Peppa Pig. He can also mention Kermit the frog if necessary.
Im hoping he tries something like this again
Hes odds on to leave office in 2022 now so if anybody genuinely thinks hes going to wiggle out of it then might be worth a punt on 2023 or later
As it is now i think the conservative party wait till the investigation and offer him the chance to jump before they push him... will let rishi get in one last budget (and a chance to announce tax cuts) ... leadership election spring... conference after the summer then Id guess if the new PM gets an electoral bounce they have a budget April 23 tailored for a May election
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Sack Borris sell Patel. Hire Sunak?
I think he'll be gone before the local elections in May. My guess would be February personally, I think he's deeply fecked with the party now. If he does somehow cling on, he'll be gone very shortly after those elections, because with him in charge the Tories are going to take a horrible battering.
Any chance he just stands up at PMQs today and resigns on the spot?
I'm fairly sure Boris doesn't give a shit about his time in office being controversial, in fact i think he actively works towards it. He wants to be a prime minister who is remembered and talked about.
He's done that so he'll leave happy with his record.
He's done that so he'll leave happy with his record.