One imposter recognizes another, VdV managed to con Madrid into buying him after all.
How do we sell Harry Maguire?
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Sell him in cans
Why does Van der Vaart hate Maguire so much?
I've seen a clip before of him calling him shit.
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I don't think we can realistically for anything close to what we paid, or even half of it
we just have to hope he rediscovers his form
being dropped might be the best thing for him
we just have to hope he rediscovers his form
being dropped might be the best thing for him
From what I understood, before Maguire joined us, VdV initially did punditry for the Nation League game between Netherland vs England (3-1), and picked out Maguire as the worst player on the pitch. Which is reasonable as we can testify that it's not rare for Maguire to have these games where he definitely looked the worst players on the pitch.Why does Van der Vaart hate Maguire so much?
I've seen a clip before of him calling him shit.
Then the transfer happened. VdV as pundit guest to Sky reasonably questioned why this club paid such world record fee for Maguire (we all had the same question). Sky never invited VdV again. VdV felt offended and became life long Maguire critic
Damn. It's just bitterness, then. It's fair to question the transfer fee, but the way he speaks about him is pretty unprofessional. Sky Sports refusal to invite him back isn't Maguire's fault.
A worse signing than Di Maria, Falcao and Schneiderlin put together.
Di Maria? I don't know. The club bought a player being pushed out that did not want to come here. He gave up on the team.
There is a certain element of initial bitterness. However, I feel criticizing Maguire become a gag gig for VdV nowadays. VdV is playing "his character" now than hatred toward Maguire. The unfortunate between Sky-VdV event made Maguire a regular victim of this running gag.
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A player who was easy to get rid of and who wasnt made club captain.
At least we recouped a big sum of money out of him.
Maguire's gonna be sold for a pack of gum and loose change.
If we wanted to sell him, because of his wages it likely to basicly be a Sanchez sort of thing. Leave on a free probably give him some money for leaving.
he was so terrible last night it was depressing.
he was so terrible last night it was depressing.
He was good last season but has been a complete train wreck this year. We spent so much on our defence and now we've got Maguire (slow, full of mistakes), Shaw (completely apart this year, hopefully a blip) and ABW (poor on the ball hence dropped) who are all issues. Dalot and Varane are positives but I'm still not convinced by the former long term.
All in all, we seem to create more problems for ourselves in our attempts to fix them.
All in all, we seem to create more problems for ourselves in our attempts to fix them.
Varane is a better player, but so far hasn't shown it, be it.due to injuries or again poor form.
Probably because what your saying hasn't actually happened
Thats a poor analysis in that tweet. We got hit from counter attack hence the space was created. Scott was closest to the attacker and Maguire vacates his space to get close to the attacker which wasn’t needed. Even if Scott was beaten, there were 5 players in decent position that could have stopped the attack. Most of the blame is on Maguire and some on Shaw for sleeping on his ass for the offside trap.
He set up Juan for the scissor against Liverpool.
Remember when saying Phil Jones was the better player was tongue in cheek? I'm absolutely damn certain of it now.
Keep him away from the first team and costing us goals, please.
Keep him away from the first team and costing us goals, please.
Yes but he didn’t really want to be here and play under a rigid manager like LVG. The burglary didn’t do us any favours either. That and the Falcao deal just showed how little research we did. We were more into Galactico signings.
He will have no shortage of suitors if we list him on the market for around EUR40 - 50M. Teams that are challenging for Europe and play a deeper line would surely be interested in him.
If that’s the amount he goes for, I don’t see it as a big loss to the club. Fans should remember that he brought us back-to-back UCL qualification (at the expense of Leicester). That in itself should cover the shortfall.
If that’s the amount he goes for, I don’t see it as a big loss to the club. Fans should remember that he brought us back-to-back UCL qualification (at the expense of Leicester). That in itself should cover the shortfall.
Let's get real. We are not selling him for sure. He will even sign a new contract and continue to be here for a long time. I have lost hope.
I was hoping he'd recover some sort of form, but he plays like a haunted empty shell of a footballer now. The idea he was always this bad is nonsense, but he is just scarily bad these days.
Exactly he was at one point our best CB and in good form, after the Euros it's been a linear downward trend that shows no sign of halting.
He has been shite since about March. Same with a lot of our first-team regulars, Bruno hasn't been the same since then either and also Shaw is back to being his usual blundering self.
I have a plan, that could mutually benefit us. We take Slabhead back, straight swap for Tilemans.
We don't need to sell him. He will ask to leave if he is dropped to the bench when he is fit. It will be too big a slap in the face.
Fit jones >> maguire
you don't sale. You go buy another top cb and make him third choice. Then its up to him to prove himself
We would have to take a massive slap in the face and sell him for peanuts. Which we won’t do. He is worth too much on the p&l to sell on the cheap.
And can’t lose face either by not having the £80m cb on the bench or out of the squad
And can’t lose face either by not having the £80m cb on the bench or out of the squad
He going to end up costing the club more This season, than what it would he to take a hit on the transfer fee.
Don't know how many times we have dropped points or lost from comfortable winning positions because our captain can't do anything right.
Yesterday we were cruising, again playing well looking very solid dominating the game, then he decided to get involved in the game, and all hell broke loose for a 20 minute period. Shocking he managed to get skinned for that first one caught out in no man land, then he had another 3 moments where he was caught again out in no man's land, missing the ball completely a few times.
He so far off what is required I think he should he moved on. This season has been the Worse centre back play I can remember at our club.
Don't know how many times we have dropped points or lost from comfortable winning positions because our captain can't do anything right.
Yesterday we were cruising, again playing well looking very solid dominating the game, then he decided to get involved in the game, and all hell broke loose for a 20 minute period. Shocking he managed to get skinned for that first one caught out in no man land, then he had another 3 moments where he was caught again out in no man's land, missing the ball completely a few times.
He so far off what is required I think he should he moved on. This season has been the Worse centre back play I can remember at our club.
Maguire definitely wasn't the worst defender on the pitch that day. Ross Barkley and John Stones both made errors that led directly to a goal and Kyle Walker scored an OG (although trying to rescue Stone's mistake) De Ligt also made two major errors that led to England's goal (although he did scored a great header later, beating Stones & Walker by the way). If Lingard's toe wasn't offside late on England probably would've won the game and people would've been slating De Ligt and VVD for costing Holland the game.
When he plays in a high defensive line, all his weaknesses are so evident: slowness, sluggishness, lack of anticipation. Also when we try to build attacks his passing is not that good. Playing alongside a world class defender like Varane who can do almost anything makes him look like a amateur.
Put him in a team that sits back and he will look good in no time, he is just not suited to a big club.
Surely we cannot sell him because nobody would ever want him so we are stuck with him, another expensive transfer that does not justify itself on the football pitch.
Put him in a team that sits back and he will look good in no time, he is just not suited to a big club.
Surely we cannot sell him because nobody would ever want him so we are stuck with him, another expensive transfer that does not justify itself on the football pitch.
What poor form? Bar a couple of dodgy touches when he came back from injury, Varane has been decent.
It depends on what is considered a big loss. His value on the books will be half the original price tag. About 40 M, so anything under that is a loss and anything above is a theoretical profit.
I think yes they would if the manager can make it clear that it is worth it to get rid of his salary and whatever influence he has in the locker room.
Cause "muh british core need british cap'n" bollox that Ole stand firm on. He showed nothing in Leicester to be considered as a captain. He wasnt even vice captain there.
Unless he takes a huge cut in wages, we are stuck with him until his contract runs out. Same as many others.
We have to tempt Newcastle as much as possible. Hopefully we are already touting him to them ready for the summer. I dont think we will get the full 80M back, but if we can get around 40M then happy days. Not an awful defender as people here are stating, but he is an average Premier League defender, and average is not good enough for us.
It will be very difficult to get a good fee for him considering how high his wages are.
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