I’ll wait. . .
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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He needs to be dropped for all the remaining 12 or 13 games left until the end of the season.
Guess I’ll ask again. How good was he really last season? I kept getting best in league, best in the world but what did he excel at? I’ve never seen it with this guy, he’s one of the biggest issues in my eyes. His form is so sporadic.
I think we will have to wait longer than Arsenal winning the CL ever again.
I honestly can't stand him anymore.
He plays with zero intensity. He's been half-assed all season.
He plays with zero intensity. He's been half-assed all season.
Playing his way out of the club the way things are going.
Imagine he will find himself back on the bench again after tonight. Telles much brighter.
Not having a good season. Switches off so many times.
I find it very hard to join in ether with the excessive hype he sometimes gets and the severe criticism too. I don't think he's ever going to be a dependable player though. I wish it was different but despite his talent, I wish we had a better left back.
I find it very hard to join in ether with the excessive hype he sometimes gets and the severe criticism too. I don't think he's ever going to be a dependable player though. I wish it was different but despite his talent, I wish we had a better left back.
Physically just doesn't look up to it. Doesn't want or is able to play with any sort of intensity
Telles should be comfortably ahead of him
Agreed. He’s lucky we have so many other priority positions to fix in the squad otherwise we’d be looking for a left back.
Apart from getting booked, I barely noticed Shaw. Normally he is heavily involved in our build-up play but it didn't appear so tonight.
Quite how he is starting ahead of Telles is beyond me, given their respective form this season. I don't particularly rate Telles but it isn't even close.
Quite how he is starting ahead of Telles is beyond me, given their respective form this season. I don't particularly rate Telles but it isn't even close.
He really is an awful footballer hopefully the last we see of him for a good long while.
Telles offers so much more.
Telles offers so much more.
He is so shite. Terrible footballer.
Very meh performance. Telles cameo is much better. Atletico is very conservative on their right side because their left flank is better in attack. There is more space, but Shaw doesn't try run with the ball at all. Even Maguire dribbled Ateltico lines in the first half on one occasion. Put a bit pressure there, and we can break Atletico tactical chokehold.
Shaw is a big disappointment for this game. Of course not the worst out of the bad bunch. Rashford took the cake today.
Shaw is a big disappointment for this game. Of course not the worst out of the bad bunch. Rashford took the cake today.
Didn't move forwards or pass forwards which just piled pressure on the rest of the team.
Looked nervy. Horrible showing.
Looked nervy. Horrible showing.
I've noticed a change in his attitude. He seems actually sulky at times. His lack of concentration has also cost us goals this season. I dunno what's up with him. Maybe all the attention with England in the Euros got to his head? In any case, not feeling secure with him this season.
Give it a rest.
Didn't really get forward once, not a good performance at all, but Telles was playing against a tired team, but did look good.
He's been so so bad this season.
Needs go on a diet too. Food phobia apparently and lives on fast food which is clearly evident. Think it's time he grew up personally and got some greens down his neck. Hopefully if we get Ten Hag he gets rid if this doesn't improve. It's actually embarrassing for a athlete at this level to be so heavy.
Needs go on a diet too. Food phobia apparently and lives on fast food which is clearly evident. Think it's time he grew up personally and got some greens down his neck. Hopefully if we get Ten Hag he gets rid if this doesn't improve. It's actually embarrassing for a athlete at this level to be so heavy.
No he's not.
He's not fit. He's probably not got the right mentality.
But he is talented. Physically and technically.
Hardly an awful/terrible footballer. He's clearly a very good footballer but is just not showing it this season as his head and/or fitness is holding him back from being the player he can be
Hold on. You’re making excuses for this guy ‘He’s not fit’ but are piping up in the Pogba thread despite Pogba coming off a far longer injury. . . Laughable.
It's a criticism of him not an excuse.
He's not fit out of choice. He's overweight. A joke.
Your Pogba angst has got you all confised.
If he wasn't english he'd be no where near starting. Telles is a superior player and also puts in a shift.
He has been every bit a waste of money as your prime target. He has been shite more so than not over the course of his United career so don’t excuse this down to fitness, he was never as good as people tried to force on others.
He is dumb and switches off more often than we think. I have seen numerous occassion where he will be walking back to his position without looking at the ball casually for freekicks and corners. Whenever I notice him during those moments Liv vs Bar TAA goal comes into my mind.
What are you on about? I'm criticising Shaw for his fitness. Not excusing him. I also said his mentality isn't right.
How has me criticising Shaw in the Shaw thread been conflated with me excusing him and treating Pogba unfairly?
You've lost me on this one I'm afraid.
Just don't know what happened him.
Player of season last year, best left back in the world for that season and now he looks worse than he's ever been.
Player of season last year, best left back in the world for that season and now he looks worse than he's ever been.
Laziest player we have ever brought. He doesn’t even have Pogba talent to be this lazy. But he gets away with it.
Finished we him this season. I was close when we was linked to Sandro but he’s back eating junk food again.
Finished we him this season. I was close when we was linked to Sandro but he’s back eating junk food again.
The initial post you responded to called him a ‘terrible footballer’, you replied he is not then blamed his poor fitness. So you don’t think Shaw is a ‘terrible player’ but are rather vocal in other threads with far more accomplished players, I find that a little ridiculous. This isn’t just a mentality/fitness issue, it’s an overall ability issue.
People get really mad because his talent with his first touch, short passing and skill in small spaces is off the charts good.
He doesn't apply himself on games and his delivery is inconsistent. He's also average defensively in his position.
Considering his talent he is hugely disappointing.
He doesn't apply himself on games and his delivery is inconsistent. He's also average defensively in his position.
Considering his talent he is hugely disappointing.
Yes I said Shaw's not a terrible footballer. I don't believe I've called any of the other players terrible either. Dalot....maybe.
How on earth have you brought Pogba into this over such a minor comment? A comment I think lots would agree with.
The problem I think is that you and a handful of others have this huge Pogba victimisation complex. In the Pogba thread go at it. Whatever.
But now you're bringing it into other players threads. It's getting silly.
If you want to discuss Shaw here I'm happy to carry on.
I think the form leading up to his injury was really good, long time ago now! He was good last season and he does have ability, jsut think back to how good he looked at SOUthampton (again long ago).
I have backed him in his time here, think he got overly criticised a lot during his time here and peopl eonly warmed to him last year....
But, yes sporadic form, been average at best this season and showed no guts or imagination going forward.
My biggest criticism of him personally is his positioning though. Bissaka constantly gets slaughtered for his.....Shaws is worse, he tucks inside too much so so much and leaves acres of space for wide players to run into and often gets caught doing so when other move forwad plaign people onside. He has never improved that in all his time here. Mourinho was slaughtering him for it and that was one part of the criticism/bullying that was justified.
He did have a horrific injury but after last seasons godo form, simply no excuses for him now.
I thoguht he was shockign tonight, slow to react and absolutely gutless on the ball. One of his poorest performances for us and liek a coupel of others he absolutely deserves to be dropped to th ebench come the weekend
It’s probably the fact you find it acceptable to happily criticise one of the most talented footballers of his generation but get all touchy about a bog standard left back.
People just want answers.
Has anyone ever taken so long to take throw-ins in the history of football as Luke Shaw does? Players have to get free 4 times with him. It sums him up at the moment - everything takes two seconds longer than it should. Plays in his own timezone.
Funny you mention a victimisation complex whilst acting like you’re being victimised. I’m calling you out on the double standard, Pogba was an example as I checked your recent posts & you’d been in his thread criticising him post match with rather stupid claims then got precious because our prized left back was being called out.
Back to Shaw though, would you agree that the best play levels above his pace? As I’ve seen this claim elsewhere tonight but think it could be used on multiple current squad members.
He’s had 1 and a bit of good seasons. The LVG season where you could see the promise until the horrific leg break and last season, that’s it. He’s a senior player now and just doesn’t seem bothered.
I've just heavily criticised Shaw. I just called him "a joke." Have a look.
But you think I'm being touchy about others criticising him?
I just don't think he's a terrible footballer and does have talent. But that's minimal praise.
I swear Pogba is destroying some of your minds.
That’s all I was after. The same criticism he chooses to level at one player could be used on another. To hold Shaw in such esteem yet criticise other far more accomplished players doesn’t quite make sense to me.
I said this & had some poster bashing at their keyboard swearing he’d played well for multiple seasons. When you consider the outlay & expectancy he’s bested by only Maguire for me in terms of how underwhelming they have been.
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