This is nothing more than the ananlysis of someone looking to blame Maguire. The biggest problem in this entire build up is Dalot. Look at how far away he is from his man. And he had plenty of time to get over. But instead he waited until the ball was already over there to make any attempt to pick up his man. The rest is Maguire trying to bail him out and unfortunately, his block attempt ended in an OG
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I'm so glad the "experts" around here don't make decisions for the club. So many people just looking to scapegoat and have no idea what they're talking about. Out of position? Maguire did more today than Varane. A lot more. But Varane isn't a scapegoat so nobody cares
Maguire mom came out to the thread after today's win. Who would have thought 
He's a clodhopper.
Try to rewatch the whole sequence again, and not blinded by your illogical Maguire apologist agenda.
Against wing back system, Reguilon is never Dalot man to begin with. Maguire initially was on Kulusevski, Varane on Kane, and Telles doing zonal defending his left back position. Dalot defended his zone when the pass played into Son. Son was straight in front of Dalot. There was so much space that Son took 2 extra touches before passing to Reguilon on his third touch yet Fred couldn't recover to block. Removing Dalot from where he was, and Son would have a free run at goal, or have a pop at goal after the first touch.
What Dalot did wrong was the failed offside line. Yet as explained, that line was all over the place with all the self inflicted shuffle, starting with Maguire put himself in no man land following Kulusevski. That was the tactical catalyst that allowed Tottenham to create overload 2 vs 1 against Dalot, and Romero comfortably moved through 3 phase of play (initiate the play from the back, then switch play receiving a layoff from Kane, and attacking a cross/putting pressure in final potential goal scoring situation.
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So people have to understand they can defend the performance without defending the OG. That cross situation happens several times a game in every game. Defenders would otherwise be giving OGs on square passes and low crosses every week. City would have 2 freebie OGs every match if this was the norm.
He wasn't exactly in the center of the box, it was preventable but he isn't the most agile and can be very limited in some situations. Defenders normally have their block shape set to steer or hook the cross away from their goal so it doesnt ricochet the wrong way. There was considerable maneuver room to not score an OG if he executed that block properly. I think it's his physical limitations that cost him times like that.
He wasn't exactly in the center of the box, it was preventable but he isn't the most agile and can be very limited in some situations. Defenders normally have their block shape set to steer or hook the cross away from their goal so it doesnt ricochet the wrong way. There was considerable maneuver room to not score an OG if he executed that block properly. I think it's his physical limitations that cost him times like that.
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Worst defender we have ever had. Nobody can name a worse one.
Too bad we do have “experts” at the club who share your view on Maguire and made him the world’s most expensive defender.
if i had to pick between dier and maguire i cannot say for certian that i would pick maguire
Pretty much how I viewed it. His lack of agility means he’s positioned terribly to act on the ball.
The trouble is it’s always, ‘it’s a good performance except for. . .’ with him when he plays well, a. defender dropping a clanger occasionally or being at fault every now & again is part of the job, even a Vidic had his moments but this guy consistently does something most games that end up in multiple page debates in here which for me tells the story. His performances are never a non-issue yet he’s meant to lead the club.
Assuming he ever regains some semblance of form he will never be more than average at best.His speed is never going to improve neither is his overall game awareness and slow witted reactions.Way too passive to be anywhere near the captain's armband and just not good enough for United.No1 priority for summer replacement!
Putting aside his positioning and decision making that led to the cross and his own goal, am I the only one who thinks a top class centre back gets good contact on that and puts it out for a throw?
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Great goal by him today tbf.. fexking hell
It was one of the very few moments in his United career where he almost decided the outcome of a match.
Well we played Prunier who was around his level, but he didn't cost 80m.
Think blaming him for the own goal is silly. Also thought he had a decent game.
However next season, he can't be captain. He's not good enough to command respect. The decision to make him captain is one of the worst decisions Ole took.
However next season, he can't be captain. He's not good enough to command respect. The decision to make him captain is one of the worst decisions Ole took.
If Dalot trys to cover his man, Don would have free space. It was 2 Vs 1. Could Dalot have started moving to his man 0.1 seconds earlier? Yes, he could.
Could Maguire had better positioning? Yes he could. It was a collective mistake, but Maguire, being the Clown he is, just makes the biggest one.
Why are people saying he was unlucky with the OG? He wasn't unlucky, he wasn't even aware player behind his back(despite it not being his player he still wasn't covering space properly) and his movement was poor, he is slow and moves like a tank.
It's not poor luck, it's lacking quality to react sooner, quicker and lacking pace to be positioned better.
It's not poor luck, it's lacking quality to react sooner, quicker and lacking pace to be positioned better.
Can’t really criticise him for the OG as I’ve been on here after games where he’s been in a position to stop a ball across the box and he’s just let it go resulting in a goal or DeGea having to pull off a worldie. For once he actually did the right thing and tried to stop the ball across the box.
Unfortunately doesn’t get the contact he wants and ends up in an OG, but in my eyes he was trying to do the right thing.
Unfortunately doesn’t get the contact he wants and ends up in an OG, but in my eyes he was trying to do the right thing.
I defend Maguire a lot but I think you can criticise him for the OG. The general idea is to deflect it away from the goal!
He had a good game otherwise so it’s a shame.
The other point is the rules don’t make sense if Romero isn’t interfering with play.
He had a good game otherwise so it’s a shame.
The other point is the rules don’t make sense if Romero isn’t interfering with play.
He is in a hole that he can’t get out of. If you are out of form in this team, you have no place to hide.
Interesting comparison. I have no idea how Dier has been playing at the level he has for so long, including 45 England caps. He's an atrocious player and I did have to think who I'd pick between the 2. This seasons Maguire just shades it though. Next season who knows.I'm not an apologist. I gave him a 6/10 just like I did Verane. I just don't sscapegoat him and I suggest you should take your own advice there and when you do, look at Dalot's positioning and how far away he is from his man prior to the cross. It wasn't a secret the ball was going there and he was standing still for some odd reason. He needed to anticipate and get closer, sooner. But that doesn't go with your obvious agenda and it's easy to just blame the guy who it goes in off of...
Which clowns on this site hold over his head daily as if Maguire set his price...
Who is Dalot's man? How exactly you move to mark a player in wider position, when there is a player centrally in front of you with space, someone who score quite a few long shot over the years?
You're the only few who replying to multiple posters week in week out on Maguire. It's not comparable, so please. Your agenda is tiresome.
You communicate and switch. Have you ever played before???
Ask yourself that question. and add to that what coaching badge you have?
And thank you for making my point in the initial post. There was no organizing, and communication which for Maguire as a captain, and a starter senior defender, is sorely lacking.
Dalot was defending a zone, and thanks to Maguire, Tottenham broke our defense apart. Putting 2 players in his zone. Both players were in advantageous position. Nobody else was there to help for the "switch".
AWB is worse to be fair.
We all know how proud you are of learning the word agenda, can you please learn how to spell Varane next?
I've made my feeling known about Maguire plenty of times. He's obviously not good enough as a starter and if I thought we could get rid of him for a decent amount I would, but not sure if I'm ready to blame him for that goal. It's easy to say it was his fault because everything he touches lately goes to shite, but I just think he was unlucky there.
Probably sums it up when Maguire's staunchest supporters on here defend him with " he was decent", " not too bad", " he did ok" as if that is what we should expect.
The Utd captain should be a solid 7/10 every week. If his best is " not too bad" then I'm sorry but he needs to be out of the starting line up
The Utd captain should be a solid 7/10 every week. If his best is " not too bad" then I'm sorry but he needs to be out of the starting line up
Absolutely awful. Would have costed us points if Ronaldo weren't having a great day.
Ahmed Elmohamady: “Harry was with me in Hull City and, in my opinion, he doesn’t have the level to be the Manchester United captain,” he told beIN Sports. “Manchester United need a player with a strong personality and I hope that the next manager will give the captaincy to Ronaldo, if he stays.
"Ronaldo can handle this responsibility and pressure. However, Maguire can’t handle this pressure.
So I think that the pressure he has by wearing the captain’s armband is affecting his performances. Maguire performed really well with Leicester, a team that competes to be in the top six of the Premier League, and maybe this is his level. He doesn’t have the level to play for the biggest team in the history of England."
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...nchester-united-maguire-captain-news-23374887
"Ronaldo can handle this responsibility and pressure. However, Maguire can’t handle this pressure.
So I think that the pressure he has by wearing the captain’s armband is affecting his performances. Maguire performed really well with Leicester, a team that competes to be in the top six of the Premier League, and maybe this is his level. He doesn’t have the level to play for the biggest team in the history of England."
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...nchester-united-maguire-captain-news-23374887
At this point it would actually do him a world of good if we gave the captaincy to someone else and dropped him for a few of games. Stripping him of the captaincy would be more of a relief to him than a controversy. He’s clearly not captain material, and is being scrutinized because of it.
Oh no....you really got there with a spelling mistake. such shame
His head is gone. I think the social media hammerings he routinely gets are affecting him.
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Maguire had a good game overall last night.
Anyone blaming him for that own goal are nerds who have never played a game of football in their lives..
Stringing a number of good games together has been the main issue with him and most of his teammates for me.
Every game this season we have at least 7-8 players underperforming....
Hence we are where we are.
Anyone blaming him for that own goal are nerds who have never played a game of football in their lives..
Stringing a number of good games together has been the main issue with him and most of his teammates for me.
Every game this season we have at least 7-8 players underperforming....
Hence we are where we are.
Can't join in the piling in on any player when they are clearly doing their best. Never an £80m player but he didn't sign himself did he? He does his best, you just have to arrive at the conclusion that his best is not enough for a club ;like this. Can't really get the vitriol he gets though, save it for players who put no effort in and leak shite to the media.
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