SuperiorXI
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It's still possible they finish below us. If that happens it'll be genuinely hilarious.
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Just because Arteta has signed a new XI doesn't mean that XI is good enough to finish top 4. When you're as far back as Arsenal have been you don't just buy an XI that's good enough for top 4 there's a process where you build year by year. With the XI Arteta has EL qualification should be their ceiling anything above that and they've over achievedThis is Arteta’s team. Bar a few players he has signed most of the first eleven. Ramsdale, Gabriel, Ben white, tomiyasu, Partey, odegaard. Also lokonga, Nuno and Cedric. Tierney and Martinelli were also new signings, signed only a few months back before Arteta and have been two of their best players. On top of that Saka and ESR have fallen in his lap and been a blessing for him. He has been given time he has been given money he has been given authority. He let go of whoever he wanted whoever he desired Aubameyamg, guendouzi, Saliba whether right or wrong I’m not arguing that but he’s been given that power to do so. He alienated AMN, now Pepe rarely starts under him. He does what he wants. That’s being backed. Good for him.
Now after all this if he doesn’t get top 4 especially because of the turmoil at united and spurs this season then it’s on him. I’m not talking about winning or challenging for the title, I’m talking about the 4th place. If we hadn’t gone bust then I might agree with you but the road was clear for him. Spurs and united having horrible seasons, sacking their managers, unstable and Arsenal having no European distraction, Arteta into his 3rd season with the stability, coaching the team and instilling his philosophy and being backed fully. There is no excuse.
Who should have taken advantage of this situation then getting the 4th spot ? Leicester ? No. West Ham ? No. Wolves ? No. It’s Arsenal. If you can’t get the 4th spot after 2 of the top 6 clubs fecking up their season themselves and you can’t take advantage of this extraordinary situation after being there for almost 3 yrs. then what hope you have in hell in normal circumstances? Conte would be at spurs next season and if united gets going under ETH then don’t you think it would be unfair on Arteta if he doesn’t get 4th again? Because well, if you didn’t think it was fair criticising Arteta a season back after being at arsenal for 3yrs when both united and spurs were in turmoil then how can you expect him after 4yrs to get 4th when both clubs have stabilised themselves. How can you make such a big jump in a season , No ? Especially if they have Europa league to contend with.
If you say their team is not good enough for top 4 then it’s on Arteta. If you say they have no right to be in the top 4 for whatever reasons then it on Arteta. You dissect it either way it’s on him. Whichever way you look at it.
After 3 seasons I have no idea what his style of play is. Watching us try to score a goal is like what I would imagine peeing out a kidney stone feels like. Defence is solid enough though.What surprises me of the former Guardiola's assistant known over here as Lego Pep is that I have never really watched an Arsenal game (Not that I have watched many) in which the style of play resembles Pep's style.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Arsenal try to play like City/Barca or do they?
Building year by year sounds nice, but in reality if Arsenal aren't qualifying for the CL then their top players will simply demand to leave, and the club will be stuck in a perpetual 'rebuilding' stage, unable to progress further.Just because Arteta has signed a new XI doesn't mean that XI is good enough to finish top 4. When you're as far back as Arsenal have been you don't just buy an XI that's good enough for top 4 there's a process where you build year by year.
Maybe he's a very good assistant manager who through ego and opportunity got propelled to a main managerial role a bit too soon. He has to get at least EL and make this team offensively potent with whoever he buys this summer. How he, and the club, deal with Saliba's return will also play a part.After 3 seasons I have no idea what his style of play is. Watching us try to score a goal is like what I would imagine peeing out a kidney stone feels like. Defence is solid enough though.
Arsenal have no top playersBuilding year by year sounds nice, but in reality if Arsenal aren't qualifying for the CL then their top players will simply demand to leave, and the club will be stuck in a perpetual 'rebuilding' stage, unable to progress further.
They have some really good players in there. The trouble is that they are their younger players and they will eventually have ambitions of winning things. Sake and Martinelli are the two that really stand out.Arsenal have no top players
Another reason why top 4 this season is a major overachievement
Arsenal pays too much for average players. They do have money but they spend it badly.Arsenal have no top players
Another reason why top 4 this season is a major overachievement
Really don't see it with Saka and Martinelli is always injured (something he needs to get over so it doesn't ruin his career like it does with so many others)They have some really good players in there. The trouble is that they are their younger players and they will eventually have ambitions of winning things. Sake and Martinelli are the two that really stand out.
This is my biggest gripe with him as well. After spending 3 years as assistant of Guardiola it seems he wants now to distance himself as much as possible stylewise from his former boss. I just cant believe that after watching and practicing EVERY training session with Pep he just choose to ignore all Talk about a stubborn man with an ego!After 3 seasons I have no idea what his style of play is. Watching us try to score a goal is like what I would imagine peeing out a kidney stone feels like. Defence is solid enough though.
Let us not forget he has spent more years with Moyes and it's not surprising his football resembles Moyes' more than Pep. Boring and unimaginative.This is my biggest gripe with him as well. After spending 3 years as assistant of Guardiola it seems he wants now to distance himself as much as possible stylewise from his former boss. I just cant believe that after watching and practicing EVERY training session with Pep he just choose to ignore all Talk about a stubborn man with an ego!
All the newbs who were celebrating a few weeks ago seem to have disappeared. There was one particularly arrogant one I haven't seen for a whileSo my fellow gooners, this growing process, am I right?
As soon as Chelsea beat them 6-0 last week I knew we were doomed. The most Arsenal of Arsenal results. Charity FC.So my fellow gooners, this growing process, am I right?
Yes it’s got awfully quiet in here.All the newbs who were celebrating a few weeks ago seem to have disappeared. There was one particularly arrogant one I haven't seen for a while
Top 4 was done last week, I'm worried about 6th place now!
He'll need a ton of luck to finish in top 4
My first Artetout was in january.Artetout.
For a rookie guy he definitely has a huge ego.Tweet
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Dude has lost his marbles.
2 goals scored in 5 games. Man Utd’esque.
He'll need a ton of luck to finish in top 4
So maybe they were just strolling around the end thenSo if I didn't know the score and watched that game I would have thought Arsenal won it. Ok right
I’d love to know what you think of our wingers if you don’t really see it with Saka. He is literally better than all of ours.Really don't see it with Saka and Martinelli is always injured (something he needs to get over so it doesn't ruin his career like it does with so many others)
@Cascarino any comment?
Who knows I probably wouldn't have figured out that Bednarek scored and Arsenal didn't. Who knows what the hell he was on about.So maybe they were just strolling around the end then
I shit you not, if they get 9 points of that set of games they should consider themselves lucky
He'll need a ton of luck to finish in top 4
As soon as Chelsea beat them 6-0 last week I knew we were doomed. The most Arsenal of Arsenal results. Charity FC.
Truth to be told United have no business to be even be in this race. Just shows how crap Arsenal and Spurs have been.
We are equally shit! I can't believe we are gifting 4th to Spurs.