Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp | Depp wins on all 3 counts

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Think my favourite so far was when she was walking away from him but he slapped her in the face so now she's suddenly facing him but then she says she turned around and said "Johnny you hit me". Man must have been teleporting all around the room. That story or the one where she clearly practiced a script and said she was slipping on the parakeet floor, clearly because she doesn't know how to read parquet. Idk, maybe the floor really was made up of lots of parakeets.
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I bet you imagine yourself beating her while you beat your meat.
Just stumbled into this thread and wow. Glad to see the staff around here lead by example about as well as Maguire does.
 

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What's the betting on Heard saying something like 'to all the women out there who may be watching, I want them to know that I fought the feck back and he ran off'? :lol:
 

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It’s weird that misogyny is the prevailing wind in this thread and no one seems to realise or care
 

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I agree Depp isn't really looking to win the case here but instead wants to prove his point that he is not what he had been made out to be by Amber and it's pretty obvious he has achieved that.

Amber may win the case but she's lost her reputation and career if she had a good career I honestly don't think I've seen her in anything.
I seen her in Top Gear once
 

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Before this trial I was on "her side". I had read in the news about the UK court and just assumed that Depp was an abusive piece of shit.

A few weeks ago during a boring evening I wen't down the Youtube rabbit-hole and stumbled upon a compilation of the trial. It completely changed my mind.

The tapes where she admits assaulting him, the disguisting lies about donating to a children's hospital. And now that she's taken the stand I believe her even less, she's lying through her teeth in a lot of what she claims, her reactions and her overexplaining is as convincing as when my 7 year old is lying to me.

I still believe Depp did some bad shit to her but I think she did the same back, maybe even worse it seems like. That she then had the nerve to try and use the Me Too movement to gather attention to herself is fecking disguisting in so many ways. I hope her image and credibility is completely destroyed after this.
YouTube is completely pro Johnny Depp. The children's hospital thing is not that straight forward. It was a 10 year agreement of which she paid half. She stopped paying the rest because she needed to pay legal fees due to Depps cases.

The tapes and recordings also admit to Johnny headbutting her and burning her with a cigarette. There is countless evidence of text messages in which its clear Depp has been abusive.

I'd advise you don't take any "sides" there is no one person just went crazy. This is a messy two sided relationship where both are toxic but right now Depp and his fans are spreading a lot of misinformation.

For instance there's a viral quote that she copied the lines of a movie. She didn't. It never happened but people on YouTube are sharing it. There's another one about her mother also being against her. Totally false.

As bad as amber heard is Johnny is a toxic man with a small ego if reports are to be believed. He has a history of violence, drug abuse and negligence. I haven't fact checked but in 2018 he beat up a guy on a movie set in one his outbursts.

https://thegeekbuzz.com/news/83-times-johnny-depp-lied-under-cross-examination-so-far/

Also, I think it's fair to say Amber has lied and is lying about her abuse due to murky evidence, even though I disagree with that.

But the body language misogynistic psychologists here are really dumb. Analyzing her looks: "someone abused would never do that!" It's worrying people think all abuse victims are the same

Body language should never be a way to determine abuse
 

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How's that? People not believing Heard is telling the truth is misogyny?
If they don't believe by evidence it's fine. People are saying all sorts of stuff like analyzing her minute body movement details her looks and so on.

When Depp was acting like Americanized Jack Sparrow no one seemed to care. But she gets to have a microscopic analysis ?

That day she blew her nose in court and "AMBER HEARD SNORTS COKE IN COURT??" Went viral. How stupid is that.

Again, Depp is joking around in the court room and getting agitated by excessive questions. But he is held to a different standard.
 

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If they don't believe by evidence it's fine. People are saying all sorts of stuff like analyzing her minute body movement details her looks and so on.

When Depp was acting like Americanized Jack Sparrow no one seemed to care. But she gets to have a microscopic analysis ?

That day she blew her nose in court and "AMBER HEARD SNORTS COKE IN COURT??" Went viral. How stupid is that.

Again, Depp is joking around in the court room and getting agitated by excessive questions. But he is held to a different standard.
I don’t think misogyny is the main reason for that though

everyone was on her side until they started seeing the evidence and testimony

it just really looks like she’s full of shit and, whilst they might be wrong on their judgement, people are reacting accordingly
 

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If they don't believe by evidence it's fine. People are saying all sorts of stuff like analyzing her minute body movement details her looks and so on.

When Depp was acting like Americanized Jack Sparrow no one seemed to care. But she gets to have a microscopic analysis ?

That day she blew her nose in court and "AMBER HEARD SNORTS COKE IN COURT??" Went viral. How stupid is that.

Again, Depp is joking around in the court room and getting agitated by excessive questions. But he is held to a different standard.
I get the impression from some people that Depp could give Heard an unprovoked slap while she is giving testimony and people in this thread would still find ways to rationalise it as Heard’s fault or minimise Depp’s behaviour
 

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I don’t think misogyny is the main reason for that though

everyone was on her side until they started seeing the evidence and testimony

it just really looks like she’s full of shit and, whilst they might be wrong on their judgement, people are reacting accordingly
I think there’s an obvious undertone of misogyny in the way people are reacting to/commenting on Heard.
 

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If they don't believe by evidence it's fine. People are saying all sorts of stuff like analyzing her minute body movement details her looks and so on.

When Depp was acting like Americanized Jack Sparrow no one seemed to care. But she gets to have a microscopic analysis ?

That day she blew her nose in court and "AMBER HEARD SNORTS COKE IN COURT??" Went viral. How stupid is that.

Again, Depp is joking around in the court room and getting agitated by excessive questions. But he is held to a different standard.
It's by sheer of luck the truth comes out from their therapist.

Without that Johny Depp would be finished, broked, and castigated for the whole of his live.

It's not something we should took for granted. It's a man's life, howd you feel if you're wrongfully accused of something so vile and sinister and you expect people to have sympathy for the girl who cried wolf?

Oh sorry i made that part up but the rest of them is real, i swear your honor
 

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how do you discern the difference between that and people just not liking her behaviour?
Because the same behavior on the other side does not get the same treatment. He does not get to get micro analyzed. She does.


It's by sheer of luck the truth comes out from their therapist.

Without that Johny Depp would be finished, broked, and castigated for the whole of his live.

It's not something we should took for granted. It's a man's life, howd you feel if you're wrongfully accused of something so vile and sinister and you expect people to have sympathy for the girl who cried wolf?

Oh sorry i made that part up but the rest of them is real, i swear your honor
I am not sure specifically what part you're talking about. I posted my timeline here earlier btw and I think initially I stand with the idea that men getting abuse does get ignored quite often and possible to an extent in this case. If Amber Heard tried to throw him under the bus unfairly initially, now it's Johnny going on a full offensive dragging her through the mud. He knows he won't win this case, he knows it won't matter either.


I get the impression from some people that Depp could give Heard an unprovoked slap while she is giving testimony and people in this thread would still find ways to rationalise it as Heard’s fault or minimise Depp’s behaviour
The way things are currently going for sure. I'm not even on her side though there is a solid argument to why you should be. She does sound like someone troubled and toxic to be around from her past antics as well but the absolute stupidity of judging someone based on emotions blows my mind.

Someone posted a video that day of her being a cnut to a reporter and some of the comments were "wow so she's not the innocent little abused girl she claims to be?" and most people agreed with this.
 

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If they don't believe by evidence it's fine. People are saying all sorts of stuff like analyzing her minute body movement details her looks and so on.

When Depp was acting like Americanized Jack Sparrow no one seemed to care. But she gets to have a microscopic analysis ?

That day she blew her nose in court and "AMBER HEARD SNORTS COKE IN COURT??" Went viral. How stupid is that.

Again, Depp is joking around in the court room and getting agitated by excessive questions. But he is held to a different standard.
Yeah, that video just proved to me celebrities don't know how to just do normal things in normal ways, they probably wipe their asses by rubbing it against the toilet roll while still on the holder.
 

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The way things are currently going for sure. I'm not even on her side though there is a solid argument to why you should be. She does sound like someone troubled and toxic to be around from her past antics as well but the absolute stupidity of judging someone based on emotions blows my mind.

Someone posted a video that day of her being a cnut to a reporter and some of the comments were "wow so she's not the innocent little abused girl she claims to be?" and most people agreed with this.
Nothing about the way she behaves endears herself to me at all either, and I don't doubt for a second she has spent a lot of time antagonising and abusing Depp. That doesn't mean I don't believe Depp is also a domestic abuse perpetrator, nor do I think it exonerates him or justifies his alleged behaviour in their relationship. I don't understand why some people in this thread can't acknowledge that they both sound like thoroughly shitty people?
 

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YouTube is completely pro Johnny Depp. The children's hospital thing is not that straight forward. It was a 10 year agreement of which she paid half. She stopped paying the rest because she needed to pay legal fees due to Depps cases.

The tapes and recordings also admit to Johnny headbutting her and burning her with a cigarette. There is countless evidence of text messages in which its clear Depp has been abusive.

I'd advise you don't take any "sides" there is no one person just went crazy. This is a messy two sided relationship where both are toxic but right now Depp and his fans are spreading a lot of misinformation.

For instance there's a viral quote that she copied the lines of a movie. She didn't. It never happened but people on YouTube are sharing it. There's another one about her mother also being against her. Totally false.

As bad as amber heard is Johnny is a toxic man with a small ego if reports are to be believed. He has a history of violence, drug abuse and negligence. I haven't fact checked but in 2018 he beat up a guy on a movie set in one his outbursts.

https://thegeekbuzz.com/news/83-times-johnny-depp-lied-under-cross-examination-so-far/

Also, I think it's fair to say Amber has lied and is lying about her abuse due to murky evidence, even though I disagree with that.

But the body language misogynistic psychologists here are really dumb. Analyzing her looks: "someone abused would never do that!" It's worrying people think all abuse victims are the same

Body language should never be a way to determine abuse
I actually don't believe that Depp is completely innocent, I'm sure he did lots of shit, but she's no better is my point. He's an abusive cnut and she's an abusive twat. I also believe both sides are doing their absolute best to make each other look as bad as possible (beyond the evidence). But the thing is that it's Heard that drew the victim card, she's the one that wrote an article, she is the one that tried to gain something by doing so. It's like a robber getting robbed and then cries about it. If Depp has his name dragged through the mud, so should she.

Like I've said before, I'm no Depp fan, I don't even like his movies. She and her team could very well bring forth evidence that will change my mind completely but from what I've seen so far I think she's lying or exaggerating about most things and this is just from what I've seen from the court videos and not the pro Depp "internet" evidence.
 
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Because the same behavior on the other side does not get the same treatment. He does not get to get micro analyzed. She does.




I am not sure specifically what part you're talking about. I posted my timeline here earlier btw and I think initially I stand with the idea that men getting abuse does get ignored quite often and possible to an extent in this case. If Amber Heard tried to throw him under the bus unfairly initially, now it's Johnny going on a full offensive dragging her through the mud. He knows he won't win this case, he knows it won't matter either.




The way things are currently going for sure. I'm not even on her side though there is a solid argument to why you should be. She does sound like someone troubled and toxic to be around from her past antics as well but the absolute stupidity of judging someone based on emotions blows my mind.

Someone posted a video that day of her being a cnut to a reporter and some of the comments were "wow so she's not the innocent little abused girl she claims to be?" and most people agreed with this.
well obviously he isn’t treated the same because his actions are completely different

she tried to wreck his career and latched onto the metoo movement, despite appearing to be just as bad if not worse and the main aggressor
 

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well obviously he isn’t treated the same because his actions are completely different

she tried to wreck his career and latched onto the metoo movement, despite appearing to be just as bad if not worse and the main aggressor
In an article where the alleged perpetrator was not named?

You are not Depp, you are (I assume) not related to him. Why are you so bent out of shape over this? Depp is actively trying to get his own back and ruin her career over this too. Is that OK?
 

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In an article where the alleged perpetrator was not named?

You are not Depp, you are (I assume) not related to him. Why are you so bent out of shape over this? Depp is actively trying to get his own back and ruin her career over this too. Is that OK?
Also, Depp's career would have been pretty much recovered from any hiccups at this point. He has sort of brought this upon himself. He comes across from current and past incidents as a narcissist surrounded by yes men. If he hadn't pursued the case in UK he would have had a normal career. After he pursued the court and they denied his claim that the allegations are false, Disney and the rest have. no choice to cut him off.

and I'll repeat I'm not an Amber Heard fan either. I think she is manipulative as well but Johnny is no less if not more. He has used his powers to twist the narrative completely.
 

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The reactions to Heard can be pretty easily explained by the fact that people dont like feeling they've been fooled.

And going from her op-ed as a downtrodden abuse survivor to the tapes of her being abusive and sadistic, coupled with the audacious lies she told about her charitable intentions, have made a lot of people feel conned.
 

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In an article where the alleged perpetrator was not named?

You are not Depp, you are (I assume) not related to him. Why are you so bent out of shape over this? Depp is actively trying to get his own back and ruin her career over this too. Is that OK?
Did you watch the testimony of the General Counsel lawyer at the ACLU?
 

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In an article where the alleged perpetrator was not named?

You are not Depp, you are (I assume) not related to him. Why are you so bent out of shape over this? Depp is actively trying to get his own back and ruin her career over this too. Is that OK?
Yeah, the article that wrecked his career

I’m not bent out of shape at all

just pointing out why people are reacting the way they are

i don’t know if it’s okay to wreck someone’s career if they already wrecked yours first

but I could understand why people would sympathise more towards the person who’s career was wrecked first
 

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Yeah, the article that wrecked his career

I’m not bent out of shape at all

just pointing out why people are reacting the way they are

i don’t know if it’s okay to wreck someone’s career if they already wrecked yours first

but I could understand why people would sympathise more towards the person who’s career was wrecked first
I guess maybe if someone doesn’t want an article published detailing their drug addled abusive behaviour, they perhaps shouldn’t be a drug addled abuser? Just a thought. The mental gymnastics to justify victim blaming in this thread are mad.
 

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Did you watch the testimony of the General Counsel lawyer at the ACLU?
No. Are you winding up for a gotcha or something? It’s not going to land because I have maintained I believe both are abusers.
 

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I guess maybe if someone doesn’t want an article published detailing their drug addled abusive behaviour, they perhaps shouldn’t be a drug addled abuser? Just a thought. The mental gymnastics to justify victim blaming in this thread are mad.
I just rather plainly described what’s happened but okay
 

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I just rather plainly described what’s happened but okay
I know what has happened; people are portraying Depp as a victim because an article alleging his behaviour was published, and people believed it. I am saying perhaps if Depp hadn't acted like that, the article wouldn't exist.

The bloke is best friends with Marilyn Manson, who is not without his own serious allegations, for crying out loud.
 

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I know what is happened; people are portraying Depp as a victim because an article alleging his behaviour was published, and people believed it. I am saying perhaps if Depp hadn't acted like that, the article wouldn't exist.

The bloke is best friends with Marilyn Manson, who is not without his own serious allegations, for crying out loud.
oh okay I didn’t know he was friends with an alleged abuser, I stand corrected