It’s way too early to draw conclusions. We know the players aren’t the best so it is daft to expect them to play much better after two games.Either ETH thinks he can build a decent team with the players he has or he has not been backed by the Glazers. Either way he is toast. We know that the players are not good enough and if ETH is to do a Pep or Klopp he would need to get 3-4 quality players in during the next 3 windows. Not happening. Panic buying Rabiot or Arnautovic says it all. This is Moyes and Fellaini all over again. ETH thinks he can dominate teams a la Ajax. I was afraid of this situation and he was not prepared by the high standards of the PL. I see no signs that he can build a decent defence. If we can't scout players I don't think we can scout managers. He will probably try to beat Pool by playing possession football with Eriksen as no 6 and Maguire in a high line.
It's from the same guy that said we were willing to loan Ronaldo out last week. He's clueless.How the feck does that stuff get leaked to the press?! ETH is covering his arse, trying not to feck up his future job prospects. Just accept you’ve got it wrong in the first two games and have made less than zero impact in your time with the club.
What a complete and utter circus MUFC is!
Initial thoughts that come to mind are…What could he have changed to produce different results?
Taken Rashford off and put garnacho in there. Also could have stopped playing erikson deeper. Could have taken off dalot and put in laird in. Or he could have asked the team to sit a bit deeper as the keeper is not up to the task of playing sweeper keeper.What could he have changed to produce different results?
Eriksen or whoever would have made zero difference.Initial thoughts that come to mind are…
not played Erikson up front for the first game, not encouraged the club to sign Martinez, not waste all summer on FDJ, kept Henderson at the club.
Easy to manage in hindsight from your armchair. The core of players at his disposal is simply not good enough. It's going to take 12-18 months to see noticeable improvement IMO.Taken Rashford off and put garnacho in there. Also could have stopped playing erikson deeper. Could have taken off dalot and put in laird in. Or he could have asked the team to sit a bit deeper as the keeper is not up to the task of playing sweeper keeper.
Who should he have played deeper and what difference would it have made?Taken Rashford off and put garnacho in there. Also could have stopped playing erikson deeper. Could have taken off dalot and put in laird in. Or he could have asked the team to sit a bit deeper as the keeper is not up to the task of playing sweeper keeper.
agree to disagree mate. For me he’s made a fair few mistakes early on and he needs to up his game, sharpish.Eriksen or whoever would have made zero difference.
Martinez is far too early to be written off.
Henderson is well documented in saying he wanted nothing to do with ETH.
It's been two games.agree to disagree mate. For me he’s made a fair few mistakes early on and he needs to up his game, sharpish.
I know, and mistakes have been made in each of those games, against mid to low opposition too.It's been two games.
How about you give him the benefit of the doubt considering this group of players have got multiple managers sacked through constant poor effort/performance. Things are going to take time.I know, and mistakes have been made in each of those games, against mid to low opposition too.
Do you remember Peps first PL season?I know, and mistakes have been made in each of those games, against mid to low opposition too.
And strangely it's the same idiots. Yes let us sack him as well. Then what.Turning on ETH as expected.
Don’t know about United fans overall, but some of the redcafe posters don’t deserve anything.
Complete and utter toxicity.
I’m with you, but it’s difficult watching history repeat itself and the same mistakes being made. McFred being the obvious one, it was encouraging to see some other personnel in preseason, and we’ve just reverted to the same rubbish.How about you give him the benefit of the doubt considering this group of players have got multiple managers sacked through constant poor effort/performance. Things are going to take time.
McFred? What? That is not his mistakeI’m with you, but it’s difficult watching history repeat itself and the same mistakes being made. McFred being the obvious one, it was encouraging to see some other personnel in preseason, and we’ve just reverted to the same rubbish.
yes thanks. ETH has made mistakes, surely we’re allowed to reference them!Do you remember Peps first PL season?
Absolutely no manager has lasted 4 years here post Fergie hahaha. With every sacking, there is less and less patience unfortunately. Fans have got used to sackings.Absolutely ridiculous that people are pointing fingers at Ten Hag already
They forget that it took SAF 4 years to win his first game for us.
None of the signings even made any sense. We had half a dozen CBs, why sign another? Those we had would’ve been decent in the right system with proper protection in front of them. Instead we’ve signed a short dude for obscene money who will get bullied by most CFs in the league.If you'd asked at the end of last season what would happen if we started this season only having signed a CB, a back-up LB and Eriksen then most posters on here would have predicted a disaster.
There's no mystery as to why this is happening. All the problems we knew we had, we had.
TrophyAbsolutely ridiculous that people are pointing fingers at Ten Hag already
They forget that it took SAF 4 years to win his first game for us.
Mistakes are made in literally every football match. It's about how we respond and learn from them that is important.yes thanks. ETH has made mistakes, surely we’re allowed to reference them!
Absolutely spot on. Anyone that's turning on him already knowing what these players have been, and are, like are morons in my opinion.I won't be turning on him at any point this season. He has my ultimate backing.
Who said you’re not allowed? Not expecting them is very silly though I would sayyes thanks. ETH has made mistakes, surely we’re allowed to reference them!
He has two years for me. Nothing less.I won't be turning on him at any point this season. He has my ultimate backing.
it is though, we know they’re not up to it yet we refuse to try something new. Pre season we saw some young lads play, we have Garner back and also Donny, i can’t fathom why we don’t try something different. We’ve just been hammered 4-0, it can’t have been any worse giving one of them a go.McFred? What? That is not his mistake
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Throwing Garner into this situation isn't right. He's right to let McTominay and Fred shoulder this pressure.it is though, we know they’re not up to it yet we refuse to try something new. Pre season we saw some young lads play, we have Garner back and also Donny, i can’t fathom why we don’t try something different. We’ve just been hammered 4-0, it can’t have been any worse giving one of them a go.
No, game. Look it up.Trophy
what’s silly is todays result and performance, calling out the mistakes contributing to that result is reasonable imo.Who said you’re not allowed? Not expecting them is very silly though I would say
Donny isn’t up to it clearly. And he also clearly didnt want to start the season with McFredit is though, we know they’re not up to it yet we refuse to try something new. Pre season we saw some young lads play, we have Garner back and also Donny, i can’t fathom why we don’t try something different. We’ve just been hammered 4-0, it can’t have been any worse giving one of them a go.
After how long?I do have to say I’m extremely disappointed he’s taken the easy option with the captain and goalkeeper.
Arteta changed keeper and captain for example. Would have been a great move and he bottled it imo.
Arteta didn’t do it right away and certainly not after 2 games ffsI do have to say I’m extremely disappointed he’s taken the easy option with the captain and goalkeeper.
Arteta changed keeper and captain for example. Would have been a great move and he bottled it imo.
Not straight away.Arteta changed keeper and captain for example.
