dinostar77
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No, cant drive them like that. Only on specific testing days.Can the teams drive their cars as much as they like after the season is over?
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No, cant drive them like that. Only on specific testing days.Can the teams drive their cars as much as they like after the season is over?
It's written somewhere, I think on the F1 site. Someone said extra wind tunnel time would be worth two tenths this year but wasn't sure if that was Merc vs Ferrari politics.What's the difference in prize money and wind tunnel time between finishing 2nd and 3rd? Would Mercedes rather finish behind or ahead of Ferrari?
You'd want the prize money normally i would think. A few of the teams have been developing new software to simulate porposing. Obviously it cant be done in the wnd tunnel but it can be done in CFD by very clever people. Stuff like that would make the prize money more useful you would think.What's the difference in prize money and wind tunnel time between finishing 2nd and 3rd? Would Mercedes rather finish behind or ahead of Ferrari?
Teams' previous season's championship position | Percentage of current aero testing allowed for 2021 | Percentage of current aero testing allowed for 2022-25 |
---|---|---|
1 | 90% | 70% |
2 | 92.5% | 75% |
3 | 95% | 80% |
4 | 97.5% | 85% |
5 | 100% | 90% |
6 | 102.5% | 95% |
7 | 105% | 100% |
8 | 107.5% | 105% |
9 | 110% | 110% |
10+ or new team | 112.5% | 115% |
What did he say?Lando falling further from the likeable pole with his comments on Daniel. It’s incredible that a bloke with zero wins next to his name has an ego like he does. Daniel is one of if not the most popular blokes in F1 and it won’t win Lando any fans if he carry’s on like a feckwit. Even worse if Piastri is as good as his junior career has suggested as he may just wipe the floor with Lando.
Would be very amusing if this did happenEven worse if Piastri is as good as his junior career has suggested as he may just wipe the floor with Lando.
Crazy for it to fall through. Red Bull built an entire engine facility.More rumours that RB/Porsche wont happen.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/red-bull-faces-a-decision-that-could-derail-porsches-f1-return/
Reading the article it makes more sense for them not to get into bed with porsche. Especially as porsche wont be providing an engine. It will end up being a marketing exercise.Crazy for it to fall through. Red Bull built an entire engine facility.
Even if they go with Honda they won't build engines out of Milton Keynes.
This most likely really fecks their plans for 2026 onward
Oh for sure but it's years of planning down the drain so no matter what happens Red Bull are going to need to pivot quickly.Reading the article it makes more sense for them not to get into bed with porsche. Especially as porsche wont be providing an engine. It will end up being a marketing exercise.
Porsche and RB dont have very long to do a deal. Porsche has a ipo floatation this autumn which means any acqusisitions i.e. 50% of RB would be on hold. Also there is a cut off for october for new engine manufacturers to join so they can have a say on 2026 PU.
Be interesting to see what RB do...
I used to have one of the old ones called grand prix manager 2 and used to be obsessed with it as a kid. Will definitely give this one a go for a laugh.F1 Manager 22 game just got released and I'm historically obsessed with manager games so most probably will give it a try. Anyone had a chance to play already?
Try to persuade Honda to come back?Be interesting to see what RB do...
RB have the RB powertrain faciities so i presume they would be building their own PUs under their own banner reluctantly. Which despite having taken staff off other teams, would be a huge achievement for a team with no experience of builiding commercial engines.Try to persuade Honda to come back?
Failing that I could imagine a scenario where in 2026 you have
Merc supplying themselves, Mclaran and Aston
Ferrari supplying themselves and HAAS
Renault Supplying themselves
Audi supplying themselves
This would mean under the rules that if RB (and alfa tauri) did not have an engine supplier then Audi / Renualt would have to supply them (as they have the fewest customers)
Red Bull being forced to use renault would be funny - as would red bull being forced to use an Audi engine without bringing in the porsche money
hope horner messes this up just to see him moan about it - or better still thinks that can devleop themselves.
Audi would never supply Red Bull as new power unit entrants in 2026 wouldn't be required to comply with the obligations of competitor supply in year one, plus it's likely they be taking over Sauber in the next 12 months. So it would be either Red Bull as themselves, Honda or Renault. Given the infrastructure set up and people on board (Andy Cowell rumoured to be at RBPT's also) they should have a working engine by 2026. Everything they're doing at the moment is a move to be sold to a manufacturer at some point in the near future.Try to persuade Honda to come back?
Failing that I could imagine a scenario where in 2026 you have
Merc supplying themselves, Mclaran and Aston
Ferrari supplying themselves and HAAS
Renault Supplying themselves
Audi supplying themselves
This would mean under the rules that if RB (and alfa tauri) did not have an engine supplier then Audi / Renualt would have to supply them (as they have the fewest customers)
Red Bull being forced to use renault would be funny - as would red bull being forced to use an Audi engine without bringing in the porsche money
hope horner messes this up just to see him moan about it - or better still thinks that can devleop themselves.
Red Bull would supply AlphaTauri right?RB have the RB powertrain faciities so i presume they would be building their own PUs under their own banner reluctantly. Which despite having taken staff off other teams, would be a huge achievement for a team with no experience of builiding commercial engines.
I thought the rules for 2026 were that you had to supply at least one other team? Maybe im mistaken.
Not sure - I dont think Audi will be in a position to do thatI thought the rules for 2026 were that you had to supply at least one other team? Maybe im mistaken.
Hard to see Red Bull and Renault working together again, hard to imagine Honda returning to F1 so soon and hard to imagine that RBPT will be in a position to produce a competive f1 engine s their first engine (particularly as Honda only leased them IP till the end of the current regs)Audi would never supply Red Bull as new power unit entrants in 2026 wouldn't be required to comply with the obligations of competitor supply in year one, plus it's likely they be taking over Sauber in the next 12 months. So it would be either Red Bull as themselves, Honda or Renault. Given the infrastructure set up and people on board (Andy Cowell rumoured to be at RBPT's also) they should have a working engine by 2026. Everything they're doing at the moment is a move to be sold to a manufacturer at some point in the near future.
In its current guise, yes. However Alpha Tauri will most likely be sold off by Red Bull before 2026.Red Bull would supply AlphaTauri right?
Agree on Renault being a closed door. The amount of resource and talent that they've poached from Mercedes AMG HPP, RBPT should be able to produce a competitive and a less complicated engine than the current regs in 3 years.Hard to see Red Bull and Renault working together again, hard to imagine Honda returning to F1 so soon and hard to imagine that RBPT will be in a position to produce a competive f1 engine s their first engine (particularly as Honda only leased them IP till the end of the current regs)
I think they will end up teaming up with Honda but instead of Honda producing everything in Japan they'll do it at the new RB facility instead with Honda providing a lot of know-how.In its current guise, yes. However Alpha Tauri will most likely be sold off by Red Bull before 2026.
Agree on Renault being a closed door. The amount of resource and talent that they've poached from Mercedes AMG HPP, RBPT should be able to produce a competitive and a less complicated engine than the current regs in 3 years.
Honda will be plan B, if plan A hits challenges between now and 2025.
I've had it since early access. Really loved it, but recently people have been investigating and said that there's almost no change in pace between softs, mediums and hards, and that's really put a dampener on it for me. Holding out for a patch to fix that hopefully.F1 Manager 22 game just got released and I'm historically obsessed with manager games so most probably will give it a try. Anyone had a chance to play already?
My gut feel will be that McLaren will have to pay some money to Alpine in respect of the Piastri/Alpine contract. Piastri is also announced at the same time that he signs for McLaren in 2023, and then Gasly to be announced at Alpine at Monza.Piastri-gate announcement will be soon. Interesting to see what happens there.
What title battle?Shame the gearbox issue didn’t happen in the race, to inject even the slightest amount of jeopardy into the title battle.
Russel on mediums is within 3 10ths of the fastest driver (Sainz) on the softs. Madness.What title battle?
More confusongly why are mercedes quick? Not seen any footage just bbc f1 updates. Bizarre.
Massive test for lando and piastri next season. I think lando will come out on top over the course of the season.