It’s fascinating that you are surprised why most posts in here come when Haaland scores.
Nordic Ghost Yeti | Haaland at City
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You cannot omit that he has the pace of few who have played football, which is an X-factor that removes him from linear equivalency and makes him a wholly different proposition to just an old-fashioned #9 who, I'm assuming, you mean are hurly-burly and good all-rounders using their size to their advantage. Even in your own post you're comparing him to RVN; Ruud never in his career could run the lines like Haaland does, which cannot be brushed aside even if there are some similarities with the work seen inside the box.
I'd put forward he is a new breed; I was making a long post about it a few weeks ago that got lost and I haven't the inclination to do that again, but I put it to anyone to find a likeness that doesn't veer off wildly at a juncture where his components simply don't fit with whichever player he is being matched to. He's an oddity in size, frame, athleticism and the way he plays the game - great movers across the line rarely, if ever have such predatory instincts inside the box, and vice-versa, to combine both in one player, again, it's simply not something we're accustomed to.
There's a curiosity to watching him that comes from the fact he is anomalous in so many ways.
Whenever a player does well for us, it's always "How long until Real/Barca poaches him from us" like it's inevitable.
City have their fair share of star players (Haaland, KDB, Silva...), yet this "top Spanish teams coming for him" never occurs. I wonder why?
City have their fair share of star players (Haaland, KDB, Silva...), yet this "top Spanish teams coming for him" never occurs. I wonder why?
Secret wages and the fear of City doing a PSG to Neymar type transfer.
Because we all know why. It’s not really worth discussing.
Obviously very disappointed we failed to get him but at least he's just at City to top up his/his dad's/Riola's heirs bank balances and pick up some trophies before the £150/175m release clause kicks in and he's off to Madrid in a couple of years. The only good thing about this is we won't have to suffer him knocking them in for nearly as long as Aguero. Loathsome character that he was, got to admit Riola's played an absolute blinder with Erling's career. I imagine Haaland senior sends Roy Keane an f you text every time his son scores for City!
One trick CL goalscoring record pony.
Oh yea, he is rapid at the moment, and has the speed to break away. I do think that will drop off as he moves into his mid to late 20s. Ronaldo (original) was similar in that regard when he first burst on the scene. But a striker's predatory instinct will make up for the drop off in speed, and the same will apply for Haaland. Again, he's got the facets of a top number 9, but I don't think he's as revolutionary as you're making out.
None of the top teams had a need for Silva/KDB TBH. Barcelona had that iconic midfield of Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets when Silva was at City and a near equivalent a little later on but with Rakitic when KDB went to City from Wolfsburg. Same with Madrid who had Ozil with Xabi Alonso and then Modric, Kroos and Casemiro a little later on. They did lose Ferran Torres when Barcelona came calling which proves my point that none of the big guns were serious about City players in the past
In 2/3yrs Lewandowski and Benzema will inevitably call it a day so they'll need a No9. Haaland's release clause will be kicking in during that period as well
we’re shite and they’re really good
That's true.There's plenty of "uhhh it hurts so much we didn't get him
Tbh after Messi and Ronaldo it's easy not to drool over Mbappe and Halaand. At least for me.Tbf, it's difficult to watch him and not have a hard on for him. He's mental. I do avoid watching City and Pool as much as possible to help with this
You just can’t help yourself can you
Henry, Aubamayang, Eto'o stayed relatively healthy and as a result kept their pace into their late 20s
Then you have the likes of Owen, R9, Torres who didn't because of injuries and playing at a high level since 17
Could go either way with Haaland
We were Champions of Europe and England when Ronaldo wanted to leave. Something City have never done. His point stands.
Ridiculous player. Glad he’s playing for City and not any other top 6 club that isn’t Chelsea.
How else would you describe your success?You just can’t help yourself can you
Players that City wants to keep don’t leave. Hence why the likes of Aguero or David Silva didn’t move to a Barca or a Madrid in their peak or KDB for that matter.
True but they're done and these 2 are the standouts in the current crop and the ones you wish we had.
He’ll fizzle out in my opinion. Probably get a bad injury and won’t be the same player.
Only, his father said in a documentary that he would like to test himself I all big leagues. He might stay 4/5 years, and if Spanish football don’t go bankrupt (as they might) He will be off.
The difference is they didn't insist on having a buyout clause put in the contract when they signed for City
Ferran Torres?
They were open to selling Bernardo Silva too but Barca never bid due to not selling FDJ
Don't think they ever had serious interest for Silva or KDB because the Spanish Big Guns had no need for them
What are the odds of Haaland becoming the all-time CL top scorer?
He has 26 CL goals in 21 games. A goal ratio of 1.24 goals per game. I have never seen a guy this young (22) with such statistics across 3 clubs (Salzburg, Dortmund and now City) and 3 different leagues.
A 37.5 year old C. Ronaldo has 140 goals in 183 appearances. A 2.5 year younger Messi has 126 goals in 158 games.
In comparison C. Ronaldo first reached 26 CL goals by the age of 26.
On the other hand Mbappé has scored 36 CL goals in 55 games. He has 4 more CL group stage games to score in before he turns 24.
Hard NOT to see both of them breaking the records of Messi and C. Ronaldo barring injuries. Not sure if that is a testament to an even higher disparity between teams now, a lower level in football in terms of talent or young Haaland and young Mbappé simply being better goal scorers? Talent wise and in terms of their overall game (in particular in the case of Msssi), the two ”old ones” are the superior talents and players. That I have no doubt about.
He has 26 CL goals in 21 games. A goal ratio of 1.24 goals per game. I have never seen a guy this young (22) with such statistics across 3 clubs (Salzburg, Dortmund and now City) and 3 different leagues.
A 37.5 year old C. Ronaldo has 140 goals in 183 appearances. A 2.5 year younger Messi has 126 goals in 158 games.
In comparison C. Ronaldo first reached 26 CL goals by the age of 26.
On the other hand Mbappé has scored 36 CL goals in 55 games. He has 4 more CL group stage games to score in before he turns 24.
Hard NOT to see both of them breaking the records of Messi and C. Ronaldo barring injuries. Not sure if that is a testament to an even higher disparity between teams now, a lower level in football in terms of talent or young Haaland and young Mbappé simply being better goal scorers? Talent wise and in terms of their overall game (in particular in the case of Msssi), the two ”old ones” are the superior talents and players. That I have no doubt about.
He has a release clause ?
I think he will go to Madrid after city
In the case of Ronaldo it took time for him to become a pure forward while Haaland is a pure striker from the get go. Messi has fluctuated between being a inverted winger/forward and taking up positions of a attacking midfielder.
Hard to say with Mbappe he's a special talent.
According to a new report by James Ducker of The Telegraph, Haaland's release clause is estimated to be between €150 million (£128 million) and €200 million (£170 million).
The underlying point about his size is: to mark your typical old-fashioned #9, a certain type of defender was at hand who can match their strength and physical attributes; to mark a really fast player, a certain type of system or defender was at hand, and the same goes for box-poachers. All three of them have a matching type of defender and countering system - poachers are generally small, squat and nimble or tall, deft and lithe, you have the Martinez, Cannavaro types with the low centre of gravity that can match those kinds of forwards step for step and turn for turn and all those little, cunning actions can be negated by them. You get a Vidic, Terry etc for a Drogba and a Rio for the fast types, but when you blur the lines and have players who can poach and forage in the box like one type of forward, run and move like another and have the mass and size of an old-fashioned #9, you're entering freakish territory and the CB's needed to contain that threat are eclectic and rapid, and don't exist, basically.
At some point along the way a certain type of CB is going to be out of his area of expertise and would need to hand the job over to someone else (partner/partners - in 3-man backline) and as instinctive as Haaland is, he can just cross lines and have CB's in a tailspin as it isn't difficult for him with such clever movement and manipulation of his spatials - he is a very clean player using smarts primarily and his physical attributes to back them up, he's out-thinking defenders just as much as out-pacing/muscling/sizing them.
I don't recall a single striker like him - to even get the base attributes, the herd is thinned to very few immediately. The only player in that size class I can think of with anything like his athleticism is John Carew. Although his size isn't the be all and end all of him, it definitely cannot be swept under the rug as it makes defending against him an entirely different proposition to a number of players he is being mentioned as a likeness of. Powerhouses like Zlatan, Ferguson, Adriano and Carew had very few who could handle them, but not a single one of them, who are in Haaland's sizing were skilled, let alone world class six yard players. It really is abnormal and I do think there's good reason to say he's a revelation in part for being freakishly put together let alone how he plays the game itself.
Why?
Because we need height to deal with HIM
Sorry is that not what they did? All these reports of shell companies are just a coinkydink I guess.You just can’t help yourself can you
Can see why Zlatan was his idol as a kid after watching him score that goal yesterday.
Yeah even that newbie City fan admits it
Tifo on YouTube have a good video on Haaland. He is absolutely not just some poacher. His vision on the game and where to be is just insane. And he also drops deep when needed. I recommend people watch it to understand. Crazy player!
Surprising that City accepted a player with a release clause. But then again they're very relaxed with letting players leave. With the exception of De Bruyne and maybe Foden, every one of their players have been linked with moves out.
I haven't seen that, but if they've covered all that he is, it should put to bed the notion of him being a poacher because he does so much more than that. There's a lot of how's and why's with him that should be asked well before goals, if people are being comprehensive in assessing him. That's where what he is becomes really interesting.
Yeah certainly does every time he scoresThere's plenty of "uhhh it hurts so much we didn't get him
On course for 102 goals this season with his current scoring rate.
I will just post it here for people who want to watch it.
The interesting thing with Haaland in this city team, is they are more vulnerable at the back and are relying on some superstar moments more so.
Yesterday was two wonder goals rather than team built goals you associate with City.
They could and should have lost against Villa.
They were 2-0 down Palace and 3-1 down to Newcastle.
Interested to see if that continues (they will still blow away the really bad teams and put 4-5 against them). But teams that go at them, can see some more high scoring games.
Yesterday was two wonder goals rather than team built goals you associate with City.
They could and should have lost against Villa.
They were 2-0 down Palace and 3-1 down to Newcastle.
Interested to see if that continues (they will still blow away the really bad teams and put 4-5 against them). But teams that go at them, can see some more high scoring games.
So break up our best defensive partnership as of late to deal with a potent offensive threat? I dunno man about that logic.