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A dry world cup is going to be hilarious.Tweet
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Ah. Ok. Well there you go. Having previously said I don’t understand why they would support a former coloniser, you can’t knock their enthusiasm!There are several posts in this thread from Asians confirming that this is standard football culture in that part of the world - lots of ignorant comments from those who have never been out of their back garden and can't understand that some might do it differently
BTW this is the article I mentioned
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...expats-welcome-england-to-team-hotel-in-qatar
This is hilarious, but also depressing in it's degree of fakeness. What used to be a footballing party over four weeks, where people get to support their nation, has turned into a carefully choreographed charade to paint a positive picture of a backwards, autocratic, oil state. I can only hope that the football will actually be good, because everything surrounding it is absolute crap.Tweet
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I'm willing to think there may be an element of choreography/inauthenticity going on out there
Yes it happens every world cup. In some parts in India, arguably there's more support for international teams than a European club. I'll probably dig some more for you later but here's a tweet with some pics from a Maradona visit to the state of Kerala. Interestingly most Indian expats in the gulf countries are also from this state, and so you'll see loads of them in the matches.Does anyone who lives in India (or any other country these fans could potentially come from) know if this is a thing in every World Cup? Do you get people adopting a team, wearing their kit, and ‘supporting’ them throughout the tournament?
Seems weird as feck to European eyes but I’m conscious that football is supported very differently all over the world (e.g. Americans who support individual players)
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The goalposts have been changed continually since Qatar was awarded the World Cup. Its happening in winter when it was initially bid for a summer tournament. Why wouldn't the Qataris feel like they can keep changing terms?Tweet
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I posted this a couple of days ago, it's indicitive of Bangladesh which is split 50/50 Argentina Brazil.Does anyone who lives in India (or any other country these fans could potentially come from) know if this is a thing in every World Cup? Do you get people adopting a team, wearing their kit, and ‘supporting’ them throughout the tournament?
Seems weird as feck to European eyes but I’m conscious that football is supported very differently all over the world (e.g. Americans who support individual players)
Nice, not surprising, West Bengal is the same during this time I thinkI posted this a couple of days ago, it's indicitive of Bangladesh which is split 50/50 Argentina Brazil.
Just Google Bangladesh and world cup, it's been a phenomenon since the eighties.
Honduras dedicated their first goal at the 2014 WC to Bangladesh because of the support they recieved from bangladesh Honduras then showed the following cricket world cup on their national TV so the people could support Bangladesh. It's very heart warming.Nice, not surprising, West Bengal is the same during this time I think
"Southgate is our super coach"There are several posts in this thread from Asians confirming that this is standard football culture in that part of the world - lots of ignorant comments from those who have never been out of their back garden and can't understand that some might do it differently
BTW this is the article I mentioned
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...expats-welcome-england-to-team-hotel-in-qatar
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Let's hope Budweiser takes them to the cleaners.Tweet
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Agreed. Qatar lacks the experience its neighbour has (UAE) in dealing with this amount of attention. They’ve already fallen into some very basic traps, almost self-sabotage. This should have been a pan-Gulf WC, but they made up with each other way too late in the day.This is going to be the fyre fest equivalent for the world cup. Maybe not quite as disastrous in it's actuality - although I'm sure the families of construction workers will disagree - but certainly in it's drop-off from the expected norms of a world cup.
Qatar simply doesn't have the experience, the infrastructure or the culture currently of hosting what are effectively international festivals/celebrations.
I don't want to get stuck on some of the topics floated - I like that an Arab country is hosting the event, I don't particularly mind the mid-season break for hosting, and I think that it's generally a positive step to look for new hosts/expand the game. That said, Qatar is simply not the place to achieve any of the above.
Turkey, UAE, Egypt - even Saudi! - would have been better options.
I wonder if they can get the lawyers to argue a technicality about Budweiser not actually being beer? On the basis it doesn’t taste like one.Let's hope Budweiser takes them to the cleaners.
Coming from one of the most football crazy places in India, I can say that, yes, this is definitely a thing here. Most people have an adopted team. Brazil and Argentina have the most number of fans. The only thing I can see in my social media is people getting ready to welcome the World Cup. It is always like that during the WC. Club football doesn't get as crazy. Look at the visuals in the link.Does anyone who lives in India (or any other country these fans could potentially come from) know if this is a thing in every World Cup? Do you get people adopting a team, wearing their kit, and ‘supporting’ them throughout the tournament?
Seems weird as feck to European eyes but I’m conscious that football is supported very differently all over the world (e.g. Americans who support individual players)
I wonder if they can get the lawyers to argue a technicality about Budweiser not actually being beer? On the basis it doesn’t taste like one.
They just won’t pay. Who would make them?Let's hope Budweiser takes them to the cleaners.
Yeah, but that's the thing.Tricky one. This current England squad has about 75% of it descending from colonised countries….
I get why it would be harder for someone born and raised in Ireland to ‘support’ England. But people with backgrounds from colonised nations who grew up in England simply won’t feel the same animosity.
Absolute shambles, this kind of stuff is sorted a year in advance.Let's hope Budweiser takes them to the cleaners.
Things are going to get absolutely hilarious once they start trying to enforce this!Now, it is understood beer will only be available in fan zones in Qatar after 6.30pm and drunk fans will be sent to special zones to sober up.
Think Budweiser will be contacting their legal representatives if beer can't be purchased within a 2 mile radius of the ground as I expect.A dry world cup is going to be hilarious.
My colleague is Indian (Seikh). He laughed this off and said there's no way Indians as he knew would be travelling over Qatar in their hundreds to support another nation. He's convinced those fans we have seen over in Qatar are paid actors - but who knows?Coming from one of the most football crazy places in India, I can say that, yes, this is definitely a thing here. Most people have an adopted team. Brazil and Argentina have the most number of fans. The only thing I can see in my social media is people getting ready to welcome the World Cup. It is always like that during the WC. Club football doesn't get as crazy. Look at the visuals in the link.
https://www.indiatoday.in/visualsto...p-fever-grips-kerala-kolkata-13273-16-11-2022
If they had their own decent national team things might not be like this. I think for Indians, they just want a team to cheer - club, country or whatever, seems to make no difference which. For us, completely bizarre of course.Yeah, but that's the thing.
Most of these "fans" in Qatar were born and raised in India.
Kinda weird to see them cheering for England, even doing parades with songs and chants.
A bit bizarre to say the least
In my experience Indians tend to be a lot less bitter or hung up about the legacy of their colonial history compared with us. At our end it’s likely driven by the unresolved aspects of our experience. At their end, here’s one explanation from a fairly prominent source (at 1:50):Although one thing I don’t get is why anyone from a former colony would support England? They’re literally the last team on earth that anyone on Ireland would support, for that exact reason.
Jesus. Do you drink Budweiser?! That’s a way more shocking revelation than anything in the Ronaldo thread.
They're not serving hipster hoppy ale made by a man with a long beard either
haha.My colleague is Indian (Seikh). He laughed this off and said there's no way Indians as he knew would be travelling over Qatar in their hundreds to support another nation. He's convinced those fans we have seen over in Qatar are paid actors - but who knows?
Hearsay? @Regulus Arcturus Black
I don't drink it but I hate beer elitism, most commercial beers taste fine. The only commercial beer I think is truly awful is Coors.Jesus. Do you drink Budweiser?! That’s a way more shocking revelation than anything in the Ronaldo thread.
There’s a link above with a Guardian article where Indian fans who’ve travelled over (and are supporting England) are interviewed.haha.
Erm… if he’d heard from someone (someone in the know for example), that those fans are paid actors, yes.
If he’s just coming up with a theory, no.
Budweiser is an insult to beers though. Completely tasteless.I don't drink it but I hate beer elitism, most commercial beers taste fine. The only commercial beer I think is truly awful is Coors.
If I were Indian and well off enough, I’d be going to a WC on my doorstep (just a short 3h flight away) that’s for sure, and being from a nation with no noteworthy National team, I’d absolutely be adopting one to make it more fun.There’s a link above with a Guardian article where Indian fans who’ve travelled over (and are supporting England) are interviewed.
But hey, because some English bloke in an office, who happens to be Sikh, announced that they’re paid actors, who are we to argue?!