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Careful, that could be considered islamophobic by some on here.Hard to know what to say about this apart from wanting fascist theocratic regimes to feck off and die and let people live the way they want to.
I think you're probably wrong on that one.Careful, that could be considered islamophobic by some on here.
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Wow, hopefully the people can string these murderous feckers up by the balls in time.It's literal war in many cities as i type this right now.....most cities have been on complete strike for 2 consecutive days now, it's like April 2020 lockdown style closure...... sooo many dead tonight....10-year old shot dead in front of his parents probably the most gut-wrenching.
I'll post some tweets containing videos in about an hour
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/worl...se-tweet-iran-mass-executions-intl/index.html(CNN)Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau deleted a tweet containing false information on mass death sentences in Iran, after a viral campaign on social media circulated the fake news.
Celebrities and users shared a picture on Instagram showing a woman holding an Iranian flag with the caption "Iran sentences 15,000 protesters to death -- as a 'hard lesson' for all rebels."
Instagram has since tagged the post as "False Information" and said "Independent fact-checkers say this information has no basis in fact."
only the Imam of Zahedan (which is sunni)....and Khamenei sent his representative to him saying "Those who were killed in the unrest are now guests of god. don't worry about them." ... I swear, word by word. that's how they justify murder. You're now guest of god, thank us for killing you basically !!@Hanks have any high-profile members of the clerical class come out in support of the protests yet?
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I;'ve seen this fact-checked and claimed as FALSE by mostly left-leaning Western organizations (unfortunately) ....wtfCanada's Trudeau deletes tweet falsely claiming Iran has sentenced 15,000 protesters to death.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/worl...se-tweet-iran-mass-executions-intl/index.html
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I'm not sure I follow. What did the fact-checkers say exactly?I;'ve seen this fact-checked and claimed as FALSE by mostly left-leaning Western organizations (unfortunately) ....wtf
the "parliament" literally had a vote on it and 80% of them voted for execution of all 15,000 imprisoned. Their request will now be sent to the judiciary (which is the same shit, everything is the same shit, it's so hard to explain the IR system to foreigners, because everything is the same just under different names to create illusion of choice"....and judiciary will slowly give sentences as they have to a few already....that's why WE CAN'T let the flames of revolution die, because they'll execute when the world has forgotten about it and moved on to the next thing.
but yes, it's Fact. the Islamic Republic parliament overhwlemingly voted to vow the Islamic Republic judiciary to issue execution sentence for those detained and imprisoned during the protests for the crime of "Waging war against god"
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It’s the difference between (a) parliament voting to have 15,000 executed (which is what has happened) and (b) 15,000 actually being sentenced to death by the judiciary (what has been reported and subsequently fact-checked/corrected).I'm not sure I follow. What did the fact-checkers say exactly?
That the claim is false and 15,000 haven't been given a death sentence yet.I'm not sure I follow. What did the fact-checkers say exactly?
It’s the difference between (a) parliament voting to have 15,000 executed (which is what has happened) and (b) 15,000 actually being sentenced to death by the judiciary (what has been reported and subsequently fact-checked/corrected).
As @Hanks says, in the long-term there may be no difference.
That the claim is false and 15,000 haven't been given a death sentence yet.
Well, duh, but the parliament has voted in favour of this and has asked judiciary to do it. It's just semantics.
Truly first world problems
I would add that it seems to me that some of the frustration felt by anti-regime Iranians at this correction appears to be driven by the fact that many of the figures and organizations who have been most vocal about it have generally been less vocal or even ambivalent in their approach to the protests.I understand now, thanks both.
They benefit from having the clerics in power.On a geopolitical level I'm wondering if the Saudis, Israel and US will get involved to instigate a regime change. The way things are going full scale civil war could be on the cards.
EXACTLY. There is a reason none, not a single one of the countries in the region have supported the protests after 2 months.They benefit from having the clerics in power.
I think it's clear that the US and EU aren't big fans of the Iranian regime - see what short shrift Biden was given when he asked Iran to up their gas and oil production after Ukraine was invaded. On the other hand though, being seen to interfere in Iran's internal politics would be counter productive. US and UK are ever the enemy there. Presumably Israel's interference would also be unwelcome. They're probably all doing some meddling in reality but they're not likely to do anything massively obvious like arming a revolution and rightly so I think. The solution has to come largely from within Iran unfortunately.EXACTLY. There is a reason none, not a single one of the countries in the region have supported the protests after 2 months.
Israel - IR is perfect for them. Lots of empty threats (IR even warned US to empty their base before they hit in Soleimani's revenge), means Israel can play victim and get load of weapons and defense aid from US.
US & EU - They get the smartest Iranians as brain-drain is a real thing, since in order to get a position within IR you must be in bed with the system. So lots of Iranian genuises and entrepeneurs move to the West with their intellectual capital.
UAE & Dubai - gets loads of Iranian money, those who want to be part of the international banking system
Saudi - see Israel. IR threat means they can get lots of arms. Plus, a non-theocratic democratic Iran could inspire similar uprisings there or other countries in the region.
China & Russia - They get lots of Iranian natural resources in return for either nuclear tips or high-tech surveillance technology (from China)
Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria - They get Iranian national resources money since the regime is more interested in its proxies abroad and terrorism than improving lives of Iranians. That's why you see lots of Twitter users with these flags supporting IR and Khamenei. No body wants to lose free money!
The US and EU would probably ideally want regime change on the balance of things. owever, as Hanks expertly said, Israel, the Saudis and the Gulf states will positively want the current regime to remain in place at all costs. Iran poses no actual threat to the Israelis and they know that, but banging that war drum has ensured billions of dollars of aid and investment since 1979. Pre 1979 Iran was the main US ally and a significant regional power - probably similar to Turkey today and at the time bigger than Israel. They simply do not want the added competition and under the right regime, Iran can flourish (large, literate population with millions of expats just waiting to go back and invest, opening it up to the world).I think it's clear that the US and EU aren't big fans of the Iranian regime - see what short shrift Biden was given when he asked Iran to up their gas and oil production after Ukraine was invaded. On the other hand though, being seen to interfere in Iran's internal politics would be counter productive. US and UK are ever the enemy there. Presumably Israel's interference would also be unwelcome. They're probably all doing some meddling in reality but they're not likely to do anything massively obvious like arming a revolution and rightly so I think. The solution has to come largely from within Iran unfortunately.
The US and almost certainly Israel have been using the MEK to attempt to undermine the regime and conduct clandestine operations in Iran for a long time now. However the MEK are a very weird and dodgy group and seem less popular among Iranians than the regime itself.On a geopolitical level I'm wondering if the Saudis, Israel and US will get involved to instigate a regime change.
I know very little about Iran but my guess its the RG doing this, not regular army.How are the soldiers acting on these orders / not revolting. Moral bankruptcy
Then the regular army needs to step up and face them.I know very little about Iran but my guess its the RG doing this, not regular army.
Not sure how feasible this isThen the regular army needs to step up and face them.
If they start massacring people in high numbers surely that's not sustainable. Regular army/police have families too. But anyway, I don't know much about it so, so maybe wishful thinking.Not sure how feasible this is