They are separate and somewhat independent emirates in United Arab Emirates - which consists of seven emirates. Abu Dhabi is the main emirate due to having UAE's oil income. Abu Dhabi have funded the other emirates for decades (and even bailed out Dubai after the last financial crisis) but the last decade or so has seen Dubai becoming more independent due to being a major tourist and financial hub. Also Dubai is the most western-oriented emirate by far - Abu Dhabi is way more conservative.
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UAE isn't a country its more like the UK with a few states making it up
Relatively speaking, Dubai do not have that much money or power but the Abu Dhabi Dooooooo
Not quite. City and PSG have spent so much and have yet to win the CL. We've also spent a lot, without any input from the owners, and have had basically no presence at all in that competition. Clubs with a lot less money have won it during that time. The margins that play a part at the highest level are many. Competence, competitive drive, and culture are as equally important as money. There are many other factors, not the least bit luck. But we've severely, severely lacked competence and competitive drive for the past decade. They've been nonexistent. The culture has also been too focused on what was, than what is. I want the new owners to offer these things more than money. Of course, also to have money. But this is why I don't trust Americans.
The Americans would only buy an asset to make a return and at 5bn they will never see one.
The Arabs will buy it for political gain and to improve the reputation of their cities and countries. Its not a massive sum to put Dubai on the sporting map.
but thats… a country?
Very promising news but difficult to get too excited until we know who's interested and it actually looks like happening.
Simple for me. Failure of the much anticipated Super league has blown all their financial forecasting out the window. It makes more sense for them to sell up and make a ridiculous profit than take dividends for many more years.
Which country are Dubai and Abu Dhabi in?
He doesn't lean left, ruffles feathers, is eccentric, and hasn't given away his riches freely. That's enough to make him crazy and supremely evil in some people's eyes. I'm largely indifferent to him, though I admit him owning us will be quiet unorthodox. But the man has managed to create juggernaut businesses in niche industries and doesn't seem to tolerate incompetence, so a part of me is curious.
Way behind the two main ones, but they got some oil reserves. But very conservative emirate though, unlikely to even be interested in investing in sports.
You can connect any mega rich people to questionable entities. But there are degrees of awfulness and the Glazers are clearly much cleaner than the owners of City, PSG and Abramovich.
I would bite your hand off if you offered me new owners with the moral compass of the Glazers (as long as they are competent - committed to wiping the dept, improving the club infrastructure and investing competitively).
I don't want Utd to be owned by a Middle Eastern state.
Yeah they don't strike me as they type of Emirate to show any interest in self promotion. Dubai seems to be the likely ones - all boxes are well truly ticked.
So Is everybody who donated to, or voted Tory, akin to middle Eastern opression?
I don't mean to be racist but I don't want Yank owners.
He's more hoping thats the case I think
Yeah, Dubai is loving international attention and wants to be the biggest and most important city in the world (see financial centre, DXB, Burj Khalifa etc - they even made Dubai Eye slightly taller than London Eye just because
) can be tempted into buying perhaps the most globally well-known sporting institution. I knew the former crown prince was a United fan (the one who died a few years ago) but according to the cliff on here the current crown prince, Hamdan is also a United fan so you never know.Dubai is probably the worst option. It has been on verge of economic meltdown for years since oil money ran out. Has been the main location for underworld drug syndicates in Asia for decades now.
All the issues of other monarchies without money. That would be disastrous option for us
Dubai looks like the best of the Middle Eastern money states and fits well with United's business power - less about investment and more about removing the Glazer debt shackles.
Then there's the American option which can go from Chelsea to a Glazer scumbag option and so I'd prefer to avoid that.
Finally, we have third sides like people from India and China who are yet to come forward.
Then there's the American option which can go from Chelsea to a Glazer scumbag option and so I'd prefer to avoid that.
Finally, we have third sides like people from India and China who are yet to come forward.
There is absolutely zero chance of having some sort of benevolent individual come in and bet their net worth on Utd.
You're talking sports washing sovereign wealth funds or another private equity led enterprise (ie basically the same as Glazers).
You're talking sports washing sovereign wealth funds or another private equity led enterprise (ie basically the same as Glazers).
We're talking about the same Dubai, right? There isn't a different Dubai where all the things you say happen?
I hope you're right. Another thing that we need to consider is pride. Arab rich guys are very proud and will not take it lightly being outshined especially by some rival family who is poorer then them.
The India option is scary, this board will be full of Sachin Tendulkar fans polluting all forums!
*that's racist.
Have you ever been to Dubai?
I think you might be painting an entire region with a pretty broad brush.
Yank isn't a race so you're safe.
Their source of income in the past has mainly been Abu Dhabi's oil money, not their own. But they have been trying to stand on their own, by building up a major tourist and financial hub not only in the region, but in the world. Hard to tell how much money the DIC got, and their growth certainly been halted a bit by COVID (due to tourism industry and financial market the main affected by it) but on the surface it seems like a well-run state. Still used for whitewashing, but then again has London been for decades (more concerned about that city's future due to sanctions against Russia).
Don’t you dare a word against the GOAT. I would have none of it.
The CL is a poor yardstick to measure success. SAF turned United into a perfect machine and yet he was able to win it just twice in 26 years, one under the bastards. Juventus were historically the best run club in Serie A history and that pursuit of that cup up drove them mad. I think that City are very well run. Don't take me wrong. I agree with all you said. However if we end up being owned by these Dubai guys then the EPL will probably become the most competitive league in football history. That means there will be very small margins between failure and success and money can become a deciding factor.
It’s more like America I’d say and it’s 100% a country don’t know what gave you that idea?
The UAE is a country in its own right I always thought otherwise, you learn something everyday. Never been that interested in them.
I guess the states are more akin to the counties here in the UK rather than England, Scotland, Wales and NI
I guess the states are more akin to the counties here in the UK rather than England, Scotland, Wales and NI
Luckily Yank isn't a race. You are xenophobic though.
There’s not much point in drawing these comparisons, they’ll only add to the confusion. It’s a unique state system that is pretty easy to understand on its own terms.
Lesser of two evils I guess.
Whoever it is, it's very unlikely to be the white knight people have been waiting for.
Whatever, I got the insignificant french team he owns wrong.
Fair anyway so Dubai what are the chances, probably the least problematic off all of those states I guess
Except as some have said they are apparently having their own financial difficulties.
Thanks for this
Who do you think is rich enough out there without having some corruption?
Dubai is one of the least corrupt and havent we had enough of 'rich' businessmen that see the club as a money making machine and be at least as bad as the parasites we have now.
Put it another way, do you want to fight Arsenal Spurs and Chelsea for 4th place every season, without moaning, whilst Newcastle City and Liverpool (will probably have owners like the other 2) fight for the title?
Dubai is one of the least corrupt and havent we had enough of 'rich' businessmen that see the club as a money making machine and be at least as bad as the parasites we have now.
Put it another way, do you want to fight Arsenal Spurs and Chelsea for 4th place every season, without moaning, whilst Newcastle City and Liverpool (will probably have owners like the other 2) fight for the title?
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