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Again, that is not my point. I am pointing out how ridiculous it is that we are where we are, not saying the deals make no sense.
Still don't understand what your point being?
No one will sell their best striker in middle of the season for cheap. Loaning low profile ones is best option.
Chelsea spent 300m and still can't find a decent 9. That's just how hard to find a striker in today market
 

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Personally I think it's a shit plan B. If we don't have injuries and our forwards are in form and he doesn't play it won't matter. But in that case, near enough anyone would be a good signing, such as Ighalo.

I suppose if it's Weghorst or no one then you'd take him but that doesn't make it a good signing.

I think Nketiah is a better back up striker too in my opinion.
Who would you go for then? This month and loan only.
 

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Yeah if you completely ignore all the bonus payments, signing fees (and wages) Haaland and his entourage pocketed.

Nonetheless, Antony for 100m looks a terrible deal so far
Why do people keep saying 100m when it's not? Is it to make our transfers look worse than what they really are?

Not saying we should have paid as much as we did for him anyway. Michael Olise for instance has a 50m release clause. Should not have paid more than 50m for Antony either, but it is what it is.
 

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it's a 6 month loan guys, get a grip.
So was Ighalo and Cavani and Ronaldo was a short term option too and before that Ibra as well. Its ridiculous that arguably the most influential area on the pitch is being treated like an afterthought for a few years now.
At least we could have gotten a young talent on loan who had a chance at making it

I hope he does well but this going for short term options really grinds my gears. No top club operates with such an absurd policy with strikers. Without a proper CF you're winning feckall. Rant over.
 

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So was Ighalo and Cavani and Ronaldo was a short term option too and before that Ibra as well. Its ridiculous that arguably the most influential area on the pitch is being treated like an afterthought for a few years now.
At least we could have gotten a young talent on loan who had a chance at making it

I hope he does well but this going for short term options really grinds my gears. No top club operates with such an absurd policy with strikers. Without a proper CF you're winning feckall. Rant over.
Yeah but it's just to get us through the season. And it's not as if the owners have the cash to buy a top quality striker.
 

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Who would you go for then? This month and loan only.
I would go for Memphis over him. There are surely other loan options out there but Weghorst seems to be an easy deal and about as cheap as you could get.
 

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Personally I think it's a shit plan B. If we don't have injuries and our forwards are in form and he doesn't play it won't matter. But in that case, near enough anyone would be a good signing, such as Ighalo.

I suppose if it's Weghorst or no one then you'd take him but that doesn't make it a good signing.

I think Nketiah is a better back up striker too in my opinion.
Nketiah is just more of the same though. He's not really a plan B as he's very similar to Jesus. Weghorst is totally unique to what we have.

Martial Rashford Weghorst at least gives us some different options depending on the game. It's not the disaster it's been made out as. He scored 2 off the bench in Qatar against Argentina didn't he?
 

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So was Ighalo and Cavani and Ronaldo was a short term option too and before that Ibra as well. Its ridiculous that arguably the most influential area on the pitch is being treated like an afterthought for a few years now.
At least we could have gotten a young talent on loan who had a chance at making it

I hope he does well but this going for short term options really grinds my gears. No top club operates with such an absurd policy with strikers. Without a proper CF you're winning feckall. Rant over.
Buyern currently doesn't have a real number 9
 

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I would go for Memphis over him. There are surely other loan options out there but Weghorst seems to be an easy deal and about as cheap as you could get.
It’s a B&M, Home Bargains, Pound Land signing how ever it is dressed up, whilst others are shopping in John Lewis and Selfridges.
 

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Nketiah is just more of the same though. He's not really a plan B as he's very similar to Jesus. Weghorst is totally unique to what we have.

Martial Rashford Weghorst at least gives us some different options depending on the game. It's not the disaster it's been made out as. He scored 2 off the bench in Qatar against Argentina didn't he?
He's certainly different but I think the critiera is another option to play up front rather than having a completely different type of option. He just happens to be a completely type of player that is cheap and available.

Martial isn't reliable and has struggled with injuries and Rashford is in the form of his life playing off the left.

It might not be a disaster but this isn't a shrewd transfer. We'd be signing him but also praying nothing serious happens to Martial or Rashford otherwise this plan B is now plan A.
 

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I think people have become too dewout in their worship of Ten Hag and will accept anything. We need to hold our horstes before criticising him though.
 

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Will Martials fragile mentality be able to handle competition for the striker role :eek:
This myth again (sigh). Martial has usurped competition in the past. I'm not sure why this is such a common narrative.

Anyway, WW will be a backup option.
 

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It’s a B&M, Home Bargains, Pound Land signing how ever it is dressed up, whilst others are shopping in John Lewis and Selfridges.
We fecking cleaned out John Lewis in the summer mate, not sure whether you noticed.
 

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Let's be honest, he's not a striker anyone would've gone for even for a loan deal. But seeing as we don't want to commit to a large sum, he seems to be the best available choice. I'm sure ETH's not gone for him on a whim. I trust he's the best he can get for whatever reasons and I'm confident it'll help us secure a top 4.

But if we don't get him I'd still try to get a player like Mbappe on a loan. Someone who's flipping mint.
Nailed the transfer forum in one sentence
 

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As a Dutchman and Ajax supporter I fully understand this. When in the winter of 2020 we signed Haller everybody went nuts. Breaking our transfer record for a tap in merchant who flopped in the EPL?! Antony after a great start was underperforming (you might recognize this) and couldn't really deliver his crosses anywhere. Then Haller came and things started to fit. Haller made important goals securing the championship and after that we got the sublime 2020/2021 CL groupfase where Antony and Haller clicked like peas and carrots. WW has Haller's physicality and in my humble opinion more of a winner's mentality. I watched him at AZ Alkmaar and thought that was his limit. Then I saw him ar Wolfsburg and his limit went up. In that way you could compare him to Dirk Kuyt who always overperformed after a transfer. From Utrecht, to Feyenoord on to Liverpool he always performed better than expected. I could see WW do the same at United.
 
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It’s a B&M, Home Bargains, Pound Land signing how ever it is dressed up, whilst others are shopping in John Lewis and Selfridges.
Tbf I found some really cool stuff in home bargain.
 

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It’s a B&M, Home Bargains, Pound Land signing how ever it is dressed up, whilst others are shopping in John Lewis and Selfridges.
Who? Chelsea haven’t signed Enzo, Arsenal are struggling to tie up Mudryk - Liverpool sign Gakpo after we declined to. I don’t know who you think is shopping in selfridges
 

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I’d be very happy with Weghorst for a pressing forward who offers an aerial threat. Fernandes, Shaw, Antony and Eriksen crossing into him will get goals.

If it’s a straight loan it’s sensible Transfer we haven’t got the money to buy big so it is a “it’ll do” signing but let’s not forget he’s an international with Netherlands and brings more than just goals to a side.
 

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It’s a B&M, Home Bargains, Pound Land signing how ever it is dressed up, whilst others are shopping in John Lewis and Selfridges.
@Barthez who exactly can we afford that better fits a number 9 profile? We want a hard worker who can hold the ball up and bring Rashford into play. Weghorst whilst not world class would do that job.
 

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Who's angry?

Yes, Elanga is mainly used in wide areas. He usually plays there when Rashford has to be shifted up front.

Carry on being simple.
A discussion with you is akin to a waste of time.

Weghorst will not impact Elanga in the slightest. They play in two different positions.
Not sure what I've misunderstood there.

But carry on regardless sausage.
 

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Since I've now read up on his pressing stats I'm convinced we'll win the title if we sign him
 

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I must've been in a coma when that happened
When did this happen, I’m intrigued.
In Jose's second season he was originally behind Rashford in the pecking order on the left but he out performed him and won his place. We then stupidly signed Sanchez and replaced him.

The following season he reclaimed his place from Sanchez. He was one of the top performers during a period which kept Jose in the job for longer than he deserved.

Ole was then happy to sell Lukaku to use Martial as striker.

Last season you can argue that he downed tools due to competition with Ronaldo, but I think that's understandable when Ronaldo would always start regardless of form.

If you dislike Martial, fair enough. If you think he isn't good enough for us as starting striker, then I agree with you. However, this narrative of him being unable to accept competition is evidently false.
 

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He is good with the hold up play, he can strike a ball with both feet and his dangerous in the air. He presses and tracks back and EtH loves a hard worker. He will be a cheap 6 month loan and we are broke. Wtf else do people want?
 

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As a Dutchman and Ajax supporter I fully understand this. When in the winter of 2020 we signed Haller everybody went nuts. Breaking our transfer record for a tap in merchant who flopped in the EPL?! Antony after a great start was underperforming (you might recognize this) and couldn't really deliver his crosses anywhere. Then Haller came and things started to fit. Haller made important goals securing the championship and after that we got the sublime 2020/2021 CL groupfase where Antony and Haller clicked like peas and carrots. WW has Haller's physicality and in my humble opinion more of a winner's mentality. I watched him at AZ Alkmaar and thought that was his limit. Then I saw him ar Wolfsburg and his limit went up. In that way you could compare him to Dirk Kuyt who always overperformed after a transfer. From Utrecht, to Feyenoord on to Liverpool he always performed better than expected. I could see WW do the same at United.
Very relevant from our POV.

Antony's xG per 90 is the same here so far as it was at Ajax but his xA has fallen off a cliff (0.24/0.29 at Ajax to 0.06 here). And you can see why when you look at how many balls he's actually putting into the box. From averaging 1.04 crosses and 4.39 passes into the penalty area last season in the Dutch league to 0.00 crosses and 0.70 passes into the penalty area in the PL (according to Fbref).

To me that screams someone who no longer has that physical presence in the box to create for and is having to adjust to a team who lack a presence in the box.
 

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He is good with the hold up play, he can strike a ball with both feet and his dangerous in the air. He presses and tracks back and EtH loves a hard worker. He will be a cheap 6 month loan and we are broke. Wtf else do people want?
People want the mythical world class number 9 available for peanuts in January.

Mbappe or nothing.
 
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