You forgot Matic at centre half . Great height addition
Lindelof - new DM?
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think we did against spurs
We should bring Amad back and give him a shot there. Same kind of stature as Scholes. Great first touch. Destined for greatness. May as well.
Maybe bring Alan Smith out of retirement
It's not a good idea, there's a big difference between being 'good on the ball for a CB' and being 'good enough on the ball for a CM'.
If you look at Saturday as an example, it showed precisely why. Lindelof was excellent for our 2nd-goal, but that was because everything happened in-front of him. He ran forward, passed forward, ran onto a forward pass and laid it off to Sancho. Everything unfolded in straight, forward-facing lines.
There was an example in the first half were somehow, he actually ended up receiving the ball in the CM position. He did what most CBs would do in that position and looked absolutely clueless to what was going on around him, because suddenly he was receiving the ball from a sideways pass in a central area, with opposition players in-front and behind him. Totally different kettle of fish.
The key is being aware of your surroundings and being able to play on the half-turn. Very difficult to just start doing this without years and years of it becoming instinctive.
If you look at Saturday as an example, it showed precisely why. Lindelof was excellent for our 2nd-goal, but that was because everything happened in-front of him. He ran forward, passed forward, ran onto a forward pass and laid it off to Sancho. Everything unfolded in straight, forward-facing lines.
There was an example in the first half were somehow, he actually ended up receiving the ball in the CM position. He did what most CBs would do in that position and looked absolutely clueless to what was going on around him, because suddenly he was receiving the ball from a sideways pass in a central area, with opposition players in-front and behind him. Totally different kettle of fish.
The key is being aware of your surroundings and being able to play on the half-turn. Very difficult to just start doing this without years and years of it becoming instinctive.
great idea to be honest.. hope RR would try to play Lindelof at CDM.. he use his head when to run forward, and when to stay to help the CB (Varane + Baily/Jones)
Very well said. I beg those who think this is a good idea to name one example that a CB converted into DM in his mid 20s and becomes successful.
The truth is, this is day & night difference between the two positions: DM has to always shoulder-check to know his surrounding before he receives the balls in half-turn, while CB rarely develops this habit as they are front facing the entire field.
One the other hand, Lindelöf seems a great CB under Chris Wilder's 352 system . He can drive the ball all the way up or launch lofted long ball at half-space, without worrying the space he left behind. Dalot and Telles seems to be able to flourish at WB as well . I think squad-wise we are ready for 352 system and could give a try as plan B .
Good post
I think Ramos and also Pepe had some games in midfield but never really made the transition. Javi Martinez and Alaba some kind of hybrid CBs and DMs, but they never started out as CBs as far as I know. Also very nice post.
I was coming to post pretty much exactly this as well. Being able to receive the ball under pressure is a key part of being a midfielder (or should I say, the type of midfielder we should be looking for).
This is 100% the reason that I moved to Australia. Purely so I could say;
Yeah, Nah.
Yeah, Nah.
I think this would be a great idea to test out today in a relatively easy champions League game
Flawless performance from the Swedish Redondo.
Quiet domination from him tonight.
MOTM in my book
Barely noticed he was on the pitch - which for a DM, Paul Merton would tell you, is a good thing
He hide more than Mctominay. At least he's got the excuse of this being his first game for us there.
Never again please.
It was just to give him minutes at the end of the game.
I love that this has been bumped so close to the Barca matches.
And yes, it gives us options of utilising all our CBs
Actually pretty terrible cameo, he's never looking for a tackle or a challenge, really is a terrible decision to play him in midfield for that alone. Then the ball gets to him and he plays a two yard backpass always. Stealing minutes from other more useful players too..
Is he me, or did he look a bit like Pep Guardiola tonight?
Lindelof is an anagram of “fold line” which sounds like “hold line”. Proof that he’ll be an excellent CDM to hold the line.
Made me laugh to see him at CDM after all the expectations of Martinez playing there. Good to see ETH has a sense of humour
Poor cameo. Not his position. Let’s not get that one again.
If we get a game where all three of Lindelof, Shaw and Sancho play CDM, LCB and 10, we need to search the forum for EtH's username because he must be on here 
Also an anagram of 'On-field L'.
He was totally lost. That was hilarious.
Patience guys, let's see what happens when he gets a regular run of games, or does lots of work in training in the role before judging him. It is fair to say that he's not quite a natural there, although with training he could do a solid job there time to time. A bit like Johnny O'Shea could back in the day...
I cant believe some of the CAF thinks this guy deserves a run games. He is BY A COUNTRY MILE our worst cb. The only reason fans dont see it is because he got lucky United paid a ridicilous sum for Maguire but in all honesty Lindelof didnt come cheap either. He is afraid to get stuck in and he gets dominated very easly by any 6ft1 (or more) CF and now some of the CAF thinks hes suited for a very physical position such as the DM?
John Oshea? You mean the guy that made Figo look funny, scored a winner at Anfield, played a GK once and scored a lovley chip against Arsenal in the 4 2 victory at Highbury?
Its obvious you like John Oshea I do too but comparing him to one of our worst signings ever isnt cool
This type of narrative seems a bit hostile towards Lindlof without being remotely warranted, its not his fault he was put into that position. Its Ten Hag who put him there, lay the blame on him if anything.
Sometimes using a risk free scenario to try something out could be helpful, like yesterday. If it doesnt work out, thats fine, but lets not go down the route of accusing Victor personally of holding someone back
are you @golden_blunder in disguise?
Nope but if golden blunder has the same opinion about Lindelof as I do he should step foward and say something. There genuenly isnt a player in recent times that played for United and where I just dont see any redeeming quality such as Lindelof
I gotta be honest I am. I wasnt before but when I saw that he successfuly out lasted Jose and Ole while getting undeserved minutes for this great club is the time I started to get concerned. The Maguire transfer helped him a lot because people didnt focus how actually s... he is
Is that a mile from the country side or just a COUNTRY MILE?
Hello friend
most of the Caf are
when it comes to Victor. It’s like a culthuge drop off when he starts as CB, even more so when he’s tasked to fill in for Casemiro
anyway I’ll be nice and say this, if football was a non contact sport he’d be ok
Casemiro will have learnt a thing or two from that Lindelof performance, which is a major positive.
I didn't know Maguire's family was so active on the forum. Are you the brother or the sister?