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a partial stake is just the press milking this for clicks. It's not realistic and definitely not viable.
 

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In the coming years, the Qatari will be finished as oil revenue drops. Green energy is quickly becoming cheaper than fossil fuels.

They are not a viable party for the long term.
I mean Qatar and other oil states are not stupid. They will gradually funnel more and more of their oil revenue into other investments, to maintain their wealth in the long run. Norway's oil fund owns more 2% of all publicly traded European equity, for example.
 

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These guys are so greedy delusional. "We couldn't find anyone to meet our inflated bloat valuation so we're just going to find someone willing to bail us out with hundreds of millions who also lets us keep the club". They are just going to run us into more future debt obligations.
 

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Any potential investors looking at buying a minority stake will surely be aware of the backlash they’d receive from the whole fan base? They’d be seen as the guys that bailed out the Glazers and kept them in charge, it would send the fans into absolute meltdown.
 

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Any potential investors looking at buying a minority stake will surely be aware of the backlash they’d receive from the whole fan base? They’d be seen as the guys that bailed out the Glazers and kept them in charge, it would send the fans into absolute meltdown.
Absolutely. It’s one of the two reasons why it won’t happen.

The other is they are holding the club back in terms of value. What investors with a brain would find that remotely palatable.
 

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Unless we get taken over locally, we are better off with partial investers for now. As long as we can invest in our infrastructure.

Going to bed with Qatar will irreparably harm our image.
 

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Unless we get taken over locally, we are better off with partial investers for now. As long as we can invest in our infrastructure.

Going to bed with Qatar will irreparably harm our image.
Partial investors is a nightmare because there is no guarantees of fecking off those leeches
 

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I mean Qatar and other oil states are not stupid. They will gradually funnel more and more of their oil revenue into other investments, to maintain their wealth in the long run. Norway's oil fund owns more 2% of all publicly traded European equity, for example.
I’m trolling.
 

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Them sticking around could be attractive to SJR bid, he may offer to service the debt if they agree to higher percentage of ownership.
However SJR when announcing his interest stated he would like part ownership leading to full ownership in the long term.
 

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Absolutely. It’s one of the two reasons why it won’t happen.

The other is they are holding the club back in terms of value. What investors with a brain would find that remotely palatable.
Aye. I certainly hope that’s the case, we’ll never return to our former glory while these parasites remain in charge. Anything other than a clean break is simply unacceptable.
 

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Aye. I certainly hope that’s the case, we’ll never return to our former glory while these parasites remain in charge. Anything other than a clean break is simply unacceptable.
Just a negotiation tactic IMO. We’ve seen the same from the Qataris the other day saying they value us at 4.5 Billion
 

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Amongst those who have shown interest, it has to be the Qatari. Only they can save the club.
 

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Just a negotiation tactic IMO. We’ve seen the same from the Qataris the other day saying they value us at 4.5 Billion
Aye most likely, I guess no one will ever be completely at ease though until these feckers are out the door and it’s 100% confirmed the club has changed hands. Until then everyone will remain on edge, at least I certainly will. :lol:
 

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Aye most likely, I guess no one will ever be completely at ease though until these feckers are out the door and it’s 100% confirmed the club has changed hands. Until then everyone will remain on edge, at least I certainly will. :lol:
Yeah I understand that.
 

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Aye most likely, I guess no one will ever be completely at ease though until these feckers are out the door and it’s 100% confirmed the club has changed hands. Until then everyone will remain on edge, at least I certainly will. :lol:
Yeah can't help but feel on edge
 

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I would rather United cease to exist than being bought by someone who is born outside of Greater Manchester. When all cars are electric in 2-3 of years, oil states will crumble. Sir Jim Ratcliffe is the only one who seems to fit that criteria.
 

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Them sticking around could be attractive to SJR bid, he may offer to service the debt if they agree to higher percentage of ownership.
However SJR when announcing his interest stated he would like part ownership leading to full ownership in the long term.
He better not be thinking about this
 

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I would rather United cease to exist than being bought by someone who is born outside of Greater Manchester. When all cars are electric in 2-3 of years, oil states will crumble. Sir Jim Ratcliffe is the only one who seems to fit that criteria.
This just shows great lack of knowledge outside Manchester. UK may have electric cars but there are alot more countries than UK, unless you are ignorant and think otherwise.

Sir Ratcliffe needs to take a loan to clear our debt, whereas rich owners will not just clear the debt, invest in the club and training facilities.
 

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Anyone read this latest “partial investment” story as Glazer PR to up the price?
There was another story right after it saying any ME invest is all or nothing, not partial. So probably Glazers towing the line "not just full sale, could be a partial sale also", which is ideal for them
 

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If the Qataris take ownership then I think it will be the end of their association with psg too. Not suddenly but they will be walking away in the coming years from them.
 

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If the Qataris take ownership then I think it will be the end of their association with psg too. Not suddenly but they will be walking away in the coming years from them.
Different group so they wouldn't have to, but I am expecting a partial sale of PSG in the next couple of years.
 

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Qatar have made it increasingly clear they want to invest in a Premier league side. If we're off the table then they'd look to other clubs for sale, one of which are Liverpool, which would be disastrous.
Why are we off the table?
 

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I'll be sick if the Glazers stay after all this
Let's not pretend this is a shock.

This is the perfect scenario for them "you put down £3b, we give you 30% of the club and we take most of your money out in the form of a dividend and we'll kick some back to you also once you've paid for the new stadium".

We can only hope there's no one offering partial ownership and they're forced to sell for a big full offer instead. I think they'd rather take a small partial offer over a full one of given the option.
 

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This just shows great lack of knowledge outside Manchester. UK may have electric cars but there are alot more countries than UK, unless you are ignorant and think otherwise.

Sir Ratcliffe needs to take a loan to clear our debt, whereas rich owners will not just clear the debt, invest in the club and training facilities.
that wasn’t serious
 

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Let's not pretend this is a shock.

This is the perfect scenario for them "you put down £3b, we give you 30% of the club and we take most of your money out in the form of a dividend and we'll kick some back to you also once you've paid for the new stadium".

We can only hope there's no one offering partial ownership and they're forced to sell for a big full offer instead. I think they'd rather take a small partial offer over a full one of given the option.
No chance if partial means keeping them
 

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You may certainly feel that way and it's completely acceptable too. I feel that we deserve some good luck after 20 years of horrible owners.

Tell me this, if SJR takes on the debt to uplift our facilities and stadium, would you be against it or not want him as an owner of he wants to do that?
Look I get where you're coming from mate, what the Glazers have done to this club wasn't right at all.

If Ratcliffe or any other super ruch guy buys United and wants to move the debt to Ineos/wherever then fair enough. In an ideal world the Glazers would take their debt with them. But being the slimy pricks that they are they'll probably pass it on to the new owners.

I'm against state ownership but I don't mind which nationality the next owner has. All I want from the next owner is to have the best interests of United at heart. For United being successful on and off the pitch to be their motivation for owning the club.
 

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If it goes to full sale I guarantee they find a way to get paid for another year in handouts. These slime balls won't walkway without taking more of the fans money first.
Can live with them being paid just not owning club
 
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