Club Sale | It’s done!

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crossy1686

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Of course it is.
United is an exclusive club for real fans only? What are you talking about? We're the biggest club on the planet with 1 billion fans apparently. You do realise that our revenue is as high as it is because these fans spend money on things related to the club? They probably spend more than most of us do but they're not real fans and can't be part of this exclusive fan club?

There's some fecking wild takes on here today, just fecking outrageous really.
 

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Milan were properly average for a couple of decades before Berlusconi. And less said about Real the better. We're just as bad now.
All clubs want to win. All clubs would happily spend billions to do it. Only a select few clubs will ever have the means. Those select few clubs will forever be despised and vilified and accused of buying success. We're very close to becoming a part of that group. But remember we're only doing what everyone else would do if given the opportunity.
 

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Let the good times roll. Unzipped and fully erect by this news. The state of football has been fecked for years, the NBA is in bed with China who oppresses HK and Uyghurs. Boxing and MMA holding events in Saudi Arabia. If I want to be morally correct golf might be the only sport left. I'll pass on that. Our dominance will be glorious.
 

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Personally I'm no fan of the assorted middle East despots, but I also don't like how they are allowed to have tea with the queen / King every other week and spend their gazillions over here without anyone batting an eyelid until it comes to owning a football club.

If they do buy utd and let it run as a standalone operation then I'll come to terms with that, if they make the club a centrepiece of whatever soft power project they are running, then I will lose interest very quickly.
Theyll make United a super power again.

I doubt it'll be a big sportswashing thing, countries like Qatar need good investments post oil, and tourism is boosting by getting your name out there.

United will be sponsored by Qatar Airways and maybe even the stadium will get renamed in a huge naming rights deal with Qatar (mark my words). We are going to be really souped up on cash with no debts and finally we will be able to beat the likes of Real to the punch.

It helps the Emir is a United fan.

We already have the largest fan base, in the best league soon we will have one of the best stadiums and training grounds again and we have ETH already.
 

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Who would they all buy? The same players would be moving from to the other every couple of years.
That's kind of my point, 4 clubs spending beyond what was capable before along with real, Barca and bayern isn't going to leave many top players. It also isn't going to leave much room for many states. We've got Abu Dhabi, Saudi and now Qatar. Aren't they the richest of the states, who's left? Bahrain, Oman?
 

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You're ready to bet that everyone is as easily swayed by a football manager cheat code as (I presume) you are?
No I'm ready to bet football fans are fickle by nature and will move on from all this once the new owners spend a lot of cash, bring top players and the team starts winning again.

You can ride the moral high ground as much as you want but the reality is most football fans will have zero issue with the morality of the owners if their team starts winning again. They'll cope with it.

Again, I'm ready to bet and confident of what I'm saying.
 

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That's kind of my point, 4 clubs spending beyond what was capable before along with real, Barca and bayern isn't going to leave many top players. It also isn't going to leave much room for many states. We've got Abu Dhabi, Saudi and now Qatar. Aren't they the richest of the states, who's left? Bahrain, Oman?
There will always be plenty of great players to buy. Look at Dortmund and Brighton. They pick up cracking young players for peanuts
 

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Theyll make United a super power again.

I doubt it'll be a big sportswashing thing, countries like Qatar need good investments post oil, and tourism is boosting by getting your name out there.

United will be sponsored by Qatar Airways and maybe even the stadium will get renamed in a huge naming rights deal with Qatar, we are going to be really souped up on cash with no debts and finally we will be able to beat the likes of Real to the punch.

We already have the largest fan base, in the best league soon we will have one of the best stadiums and training grounds again and we have ETH already.
In fairness I think we're well on our way, even without oil money. We don't need the Qatari investors. We just need someone who's going to allow us to reach our full potential, any potential owner could do that by getting rid of the debt and investing in the infrastructure.
 

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It really isn't, give a rest with the top red crap. Your not a better fan than any of the rest of us. If anything judging by this thread your one of the worst.
If you weren't concieved outside the Trafford centre your not a proper fan
 

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United is an exclusive club for real fans only? What are you talking about? We're the biggest club on the planet with 1 billion fans apparently. You do realise that our revenue is as high as it is because these fans spend money on things related to the club? They probably spend more than most of us do but they're not real fans and can't be part of this exclusive fan club?

There's some fecking wild takes on here today, just fecking outrageous really.
The fans at the ground who go home and away are obviously worth more. The fans from Manchester are obviously connected to the club more.
 

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How did Italian clubs feel when Berlusconi financially doped Milan?
It helped them turn Serie A into the biggest and richest league in the world for a period of time so there really wasn't nearly the amount of backlash to it that financial doping gets now with non-Western actors throwing their hats into the mix.
 

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Then what's the point of the whole forum? We don't choose the line-ups either, but yet we've been here for over a decade talking about the players.
I understand a disagreement on a pov. Hence a conversation takes place.

However, what I don't understand is, with the outrage of people against Qatar, why continue to converse? Surely it does their head in, as it makes no difference in regards to what they say.
 

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I’m getting more and more convinced that this is a done deal between the Glazers and the investors from Qatar. Probably close to the asking price. Exiting days to come and I’m fully onboard on a new ownership from the Middle East.
 

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Let the good times roll. Unzipped and fully erect by this news. The state of football has been fecked for years, the NBA is in bed with China who oppresses HK and Uyghurs. Boxing and MMA holding events in Saudi Arabia. If I want to be morally correct golf might be the only sport left. I'll pass on that. Our dominance will be glorious.
But it isn't just about the moral side of things (though that plays a part). State ownership and the associated limitless money pit that comes with it is the equivalent of a cheat code. It will make success feel more hollow (for me at least) and it grows the gap between the big five or six and the rest even further.
 

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In fairness I think we're well on our way, even without oil money. We don't need the Qatari investors. We just need someone who's going to allow us to reach our full potential, any potential owner could do that by getting rid of the debt and investing in the infrastructure.
I don't disagree, but United will just go supercharged now in terms of kit deals, stadium naming rights, stadium revamp, training ground, recruitment

The Qataris would be bigger than what City, Newcastle have. And also PSG can't do what United can even with the same owners its the Premier League and this is Man Utd.
 

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It’s good for the club but it just feels so wrong.

Adapt or die, I guess?
 

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If the Qatar sale goes through, it'll be the first time that one of the, if not the, biggest clubs in the world is bought.

This is unchartered waters. Will be interesting to see how the club is run.
 

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I’m getting more and more convinced that this is a done deal between the Glazers and the investors from Qatar. Probably close to the asking price. Exiting days to come and I’m fully onboard on a new ownership from the Middle East.
During the world cup the Qataris were meeting with the Glazers it was done a while ago IMO.
 

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There will always be plenty of great players to buy. Look at Dortmund and Brighton. They pick up cracking young players for peanuts
Yeah but I don't think they'll be enough to compete for the top 4 if us, Newcastle City and Chelsea are established with world class sides and unlimited resources. Liverpool are probably more attractive to investors, historically bigger, recent successes but with only 4 CL spots there's going to be a big 4 that forms, and when it does it'll be very hard to break into, that's why I'm glad we're doing this now, another season and Newcastle will get there, City are already there, Chelsea will get there, we need to be in that top 4 maintaining rather than trying to break in, if Qatar don't get us they'll probably get Liverpool and that's 4 teams we need to get past for CL football
 

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I understand a disagreement on a pov. Hence a conversation takes place.

However, what I don't understand is, with the outrage of people against Qatar, why continue to converse? Surely it does their head in, as it makes no difference in regards to what they say.
They may think shouting at Rooneyfan767 on a faceless forum will change the outcome.
Let’s see if it works
 

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Harrods, The Shard, Heathrow (some 20 percent I think), Canary Wharf and several hotels etc. Their asset portfolio in UK alone is worth hundreds of billions.
It's pure hypocrisy from some people on here, happy for them to bank roll our country and supply us with oil but don't you fecking dare buy our football club.
 

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I don't disagree, but United will just go supercharged now in terms of kit deals, stadium naming rights, stadium revamp, training ground, recruitment

The Qataris would be bigger than what City, Newcastle have. And also PSG can't do what United can even with the same owners its the Premier League and this is Man Utd.
To me it does feel almost overkill because I don't think the squad even really needs that much investment as is, it's already pretty good.
 

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I understand a disagreement on a pov. Hence a conversation takes place.

However, what I don't understand is, with the outrage of people against Qatar, why continue to converse? Surely it does their head in, as it makes no difference in regards to what they say.
I'm outraged that AWB is a professional footballer. It certainly makes no difference that I think so, but I'll still occasionally say it here, as opposed to saying it to my girlfriend who doesn't know who he is.

I'm here hoping that we don't get bought by Qatar, understand that it seems likely we will, but also at times want to dispel the rosy ideas that others seem to have about what that possibly means for the direction of the club.
 

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No I'm ready to bet football fans are fickle by nature and will move on from all this once the new owners spend a lot of cash, bring top players and the team starts winning again.

You can ride the moral high ground as much as you want but the reality is most football fans will have zero issue with the morality of the owners if their team starts winning again. They'll cope with it.

Again, I'm ready to bet and confident of what I'm saying.
Tbh, I'm willing to accept that many would likely see no problem with it and as long as they get a constant stream of shiny new things they'll be content. Everything post takeover will be slightly hollow, as far as I'm concerned.
 

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The fans at the ground who go home and away are obviously worth more. The fans from Manchester are obviously connected to the club more.
I mean that's just total bullshit and shows your lack of life experience. I've been to many places, met loads of football fans from various countries and some of them know more or care more about United than I ever could and I was born and raised in Langworthy.

I remember feeling the same way about this stuff many years ago, and then I met a guy in Thailand who was big into the Smiths and I told him he couldn't possibly get the Smiths like I did, and then he want on to explain how the songs shaped his childhood and what they meant to him growing up and sure enough, he got it just like I did, they spoke to him in the same way.

You're no better than any of these people, no one is, the elitism is very tiresome.
 

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I’m getting more and more convinced that this is a done deal between the Glazers and the investors from Qatar. Probably close to the asking price. Exiting days to come and I’m fully onboard on a new ownership from the Middle East.
They've been in Qatar for weeks right? Probably for that reason.
 

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I'm outraged that AWB is a professional footballer. It certainly makes no difference that I think so, but I'll still occasionally say it here, as opposed to saying it to my girlfriend who doesn't know who he is.

I'm here hoping that we don't get bought by Qatar, understand that it seems likely we will, but also at times want to dispel the rosy ideas that others seem to have about what that possibly means for the direction of the club.
Your outrage of AWB's are so much that you could stop supporting the club?
 

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Such an exciting time to be a United fan :devil:

Renovate Old Trafford, rejuvenate Carrington, improve youth and women’s facilities.. and maybe a striker!
 

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But it isn't just about the moral side of things (though that plays a part). State ownership and the associated limitless money pit that comes with it is the equivalent of a cheat code. It will make success feel more hollow (for me at least) and it grows the gap between the big five or six and the rest even further.
How is it a cheat code? City and PSG haven't even managed to win the CL yet. A club requires so much more than simply chucking money at players to achieve consistent success
 

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But it isn't just about the moral side of things (though that plays a part). State ownership and the associated limitless money pit that comes with it is the equivalent of a cheat code. It will make success feel more hollow (for me at least) and it grows the gap between the big five or six and the rest even further.
This argument makes zero sense. Chelsea have just spent 600m in 4 months. What are we going to be spending to be cheating exactly? 700m? We’ve also already had a cheat code the last 10 years. Our revenues have allowed us to spend 1.5bn - how much do you think Brighton spent in that time? Or the rest outside the big 6?
 
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