To be fair, if i was selling something and the person that I was buying it off of, said that whatever I was selling was shit or the way I had treated it made it shit (effectively), I’d be pretty pissed too. Regardless of what other people think. Because it makes me look weak in negotiations. Of course they want to look strongWhy are these leaches suddenly concerned about their reputation? Unless they really mean to stay on is their valuation isn't met?
Mint!After extensive investigation...Khelaifi is uber confident that the deal will be done rather than it actually being agreed or rubber stamped. Seems to me that the Qataris will end up making the Glazers an offer they can't turn down.
Of course they will stay if their valuation not met. It will be met thoughWhy are these leaches suddenly concerned about their reputation? Unless they really mean to stay on is their valuation isn't met?
nah morals and principles only apply to football fans.Now, I’m not saying people don’t have agendas but remember this when people praise journalists such as Delaney for exposing sport washing.
That’s flooded his timeline and he’s ignored it every time. There’s no way this deal isn’t going through if they’re allowed to start controlling the media never mind a football club.Tweet
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Remember that next time Ten Hag is asked the obvious Qatar question and bats it away. Where you work doesn’t mean you’re selling out. I
By the same criteria the House of Saud control the Independent.
Honestly, forgetting United, how is that allowed? Shouldn’t the media be somewhat protected?
I’m asking you when would he have been given a chance to air his views on trans people? You’re talking as if he suddenly changed tact because he felt empowered to.Congratulation on grasping the point I was making.
I'll quote it below again just in case anyone else doesn't get it.
"A community isn't just the opinions of it's members, it's which opinions those members feel free to share."
A community with transphobes who are too afraid to speak up is a better one for trans people than a community where the same number of transphobes exist but are given space to be transphobic.
Briefs from who?Oh feck off. Looks like the briefs have started
Because a significant swath of supporters, particularly people who are from outside the west, don't particularly care about these issues. They see this through a transactio
Why do you believe Forbes so much? Or any other estimation for that matter.. what gives them access to all of Thanis funds? Do they know my wealth?At least Jim is being honest about where the money is coming from. No new debt on the club. Anything borrowed will be on them. We haven't had clarity on the existing debt yet either so hard to judge that.
What we've had from Qatar is clearly attractive as it's got a lot of our fans doing cartwheels dreaming of Mbappe already. However we know for a fact their bid isn't genuine as the guy who is fronting it hasn't got enough money. So why all the cloak and mirrors? Be honest and own it. We are being bought by the state / Royal Family if they get it. Everyone knows it so why continue the charade?
AmenAfter extensive investigation...Khelaifi is uber confident that the deal will be done rather than it actually being agreed or rubber stamped. Seems to me that the Qataris will end up making the Glazers an offer they can't turn down.
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Also has to be said. Football and its environment is also pretty morally bankrupt in general anyway. I don’t think Qatar buying the club will effect or change that in any way.I’m asking you when would he have been given a chance to air his views on trans people? You’re talking as if he suddenly changed tact because he felt empowered to.
Plus we have no right to throw transphobia on Qatar, the UK is appealing with that at the moment.
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I expect a titanic offer.After extensive investigation...Khelaifi is uber confident that the deal will be done rather than it actually being agreed or rubber stamped. Seems to me that the Qataris will end up making the Glazers an offer they can't turn down.
Please, I'm begging you to read any of the posts you've replied to.I’m asking you when would he have been given a chance to air his views on trans people? You’re talking as if he suddenly changed tact because he felt empowered to.
This is dumb whataboutism. I'd not be happy if the British state bought United either.Plus we have no right to throw transphobia on Qatar, the UK is appealing with that at the moment.
They're not leeches, leeches have throughout history had many benefits to their existence. They're viruses, the coronavirus of football owners, sooner they're eradicated the better. Just leave, take your ill gotten billions and feck the hell off.Why are these leaches suddenly concerned about their reputation? Unless they really mean to stay on is their valuation isn't met?
So King Charles doesn't own private property that he purchases with his private wealth? This was stated last week that this acquisition is close to the Emir's heart, its his project and now his cousin has come in with a bid which might substantially funded by him or those close to him including the guy fronting the whole deal but even if its the Emir that would be the controlling owner the Shiek it wont be the state.How is that a clear distinction? They are the ruling family are they not?
Presumably they are using him as the front man as he was educated in England and is apparently a red like us.
Or he got trolled by someone from Arse-TV.secret AFTV fan?
I agree with his point here about the exposure that this sort of thing will inevitably bring. Nothing will ever get changed by isolating these countries and regimes away from western culture. Maybe it’s naive to think they possibly could change as a result as something like a takeover of Manchester United but I feel it surely can’t do any harm in terms of trying to make progress in terms of their current policies on gay rights etc.Tweet
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I don't understand this how this can be even real.Tweet
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No it’s business as usual until sold. Anything the hierarchy in the club is working on continues as is.Should anything be read into the ticket price announcement regarding the Glazers staying?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/qat...-vote-now-private.475744/page-8#post-30181159Where?
I'm talking about the Caf poll.
The only reason you can be that confident about something is you know the outcome already.
Unless if it was already planned. They staying/debt buyoutShould anything be read into the ticket price announcement regarding the Glazers staying?
Completely agree.Its a £5 billion sale.
There will be no buyer who is ethically any good. Not ineos, definitely not qatar, and absollutely not anyone backed by a us hedge fund.
Once you accept the owners are going to be terrible people, its easier to just think about what is best for the club.
People talk rubbish. Would be interesting to see what he’s said in the past.The only reason you can that confident about something is you know the outcome already.
Thank God for that. I gotta admit my heart dropped a bit when I saw that. We’ve come too far , them staying now would be devastatingNo it’s business as usual until sold. Anything the hierarchy in the club is working on continues as is.
You have been on holiday since the bids were announced officially on Friday?I’ve been on holiday for a few days. Can somebody please summarise what has happened (if anything) Since Jim and Qatar bid on Friday
HahaRatcliffe has my support if he arrives to an interview to the tune of Glory, Glory, Man united!
United fans rushing to defend the state of Qatar through whataboutery because they are potentially going to become the clubs new owners.How is that sportswashing? It’s the caf’s new buzzword.
You assume Liverpool fans are 100% of the voters?This proves that the dippers would cheer on a Qatari takeover of their club so why should United fans feel pressured to take the moral high ground?
If you think it takes a Qatar takeover to feel emboldened enough to post anti trans comments in the UK then I don’t know what to say. The government literally overrode a Scottish transgender recognition reform.Please, I'm begging you to read any of the posts you've replied to.
"A community isn't just the opinions of it's members, it's which opinions those members feel free to share."
"A community with transphobes who are too afraid to speak up is a better one for trans people than a community where the same number of transphobes exist but are given space to be transphobic."
This is dumb whataboutism. I'd not be happy if the British state bought United either.
I am surprised people aren't seeing this 'Glazers might stay' story for what it actually is. The Glazers know that Qatar will eventually pay up, no other sane private investor is touching United at £6B but they also anticipate massive resistance from sections of the fan base so they will roll on the process until the only options left on the table are the Elliot backed Glazer stay and the Qatar one, we will be begging for them to sell.I hate Simon Stone. Does this with absolutely everything.
It's not "anti-trans comments in the UK", it's anti-trans comments in an extremely prominent fan publication. This wilful denial is an insult to the LGBTQ+ community.If you think it takes a Qatar takeover to feel emboldened enough to post anti trans comments in the UK then I don’t know what to say. The government literally overrode a Scottish transgender recognition reform.
I’m sure there’s plenty to jump at Qatar with but that is beyond ridiculous
