Andycoleno9
matchday malcontent
One argument which i used often to defend him now i must use against him. Man Utd gk must save something. From 7 shots on target he must pull some save despite how good are shots.
Like I said I prefer Allisson to De Gea every day of the week. But he really didnt have a great game. We dont excuse Daves bad distribution when it doesnt cost us a goal either.But we don't and it didn't.
Losing a couple of balls around the box like that but keeping the ball 7/8 times out of 10. To me that is preferable to kicking it aimlessly down field and losing every second ball.
An actual sensible poster criticising de gea here.Like I said I prefer Allisson to De Gea every day of the week. But he really didnt have a great game. We dont excuse Daves bad distribution when it doesnt cost us a goal either.
It's not just about costing goals.Like I said I prefer Allisson to De Gea every day of the week. But he really didnt have a great game. We dont excuse Daves bad distribution when it doesnt cost us a goal either.
Yeah the issue with DDG is that he's neither. He isn't a great distributor nor is here a big strong keeper who can claim a cross and command his area.Exactly this. All this "we need a modern goalkeeper who can do stepovers and pass like prime Iniesta" is bollocks. We just need a big strong keeper who can claim a cross and command his area better. For all his improvements with his feet, has nobody ever told him to maybe come out of his 6 yard box once in a while to catch the ball? A lot of the goals we concede within the 6 yard box he's rooted to his line.
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Its not even a modern keeper trait. Its a good / great goalkeeper trait. Command of the area and the defence. DDG has been here for so long people forget what it was like to have VDS and Schmeichel here (or they werent around when we had them as its over ten years now).De Gea just doesn’t command his area like a strong modern keeper should do, I’ve actually noticed how shocking he’s been against Liverpool for a number of seasons now, as though he has a phobia to them.
Problem is, if a the team loses confidence in the keeper then you’re treading water.
That is mentalBack-to-back games at Anfield:
13 shots on target
11 goals conceded
7-0 (8 shots on target)
4-0 (5 shots on target)
I hope that puts to bed any talk of De Gea being ‘The best shot-stopper in the World’.
For anyone wanting to defend De Gea’s recent performances at Anfield, I will simply say this:
The above points aren’t limited to his recent performances at Anfield either; they are actual characteristics of De Gea’s game.
- He doesn’t organise his defence
- He doesn’t command his area
- He is easy to beat in one on one situations
- His weak distribution constantly invites pressure onto us
The sooner we move on from De Gea, the better.
It will improve our defensive record but we are not dominating teams and winning the league like City, Arsenal and Liverpool with that profile of keeper. Unless the competition weakens.Exactly this. All this "we need a modern goalkeeper who can do stepovers and pass like prime Iniesta" is bollocks. We just need a big strong keeper who can claim a cross and command his area better. For all his improvements with his feet, has nobody ever told him to maybe come out of his 6 yard box once in a while to catch the ball? A lot of the goals we concede within the 6 yard box he's rooted to his line.
Thing is, the only people who ever say this kind of nonsense are the people defending De Gea. I've never seen the people who are genuinely critical of him say anything like this; it tends to be about his lack of area control, his inability to properly sweep behind a high line defence to the point that we just don't play a high line solely because of him, his refusal to make himself available when defenders are under pressure, the panic he instills in the defenders etc.Exactly this. All this "we need a modern goalkeeper who can do stepovers and pass like prime Iniesta" is bollocks. We just need a big strong keeper who can claim a cross and command his area better. For all his improvements with his feet, has nobody ever told him to maybe come out of his 6 yard box once in a while to catch the ball? A lot of the goals we concede within the 6 yard box he's rooted to his line.
I don't think it's harsh at all. Every player, no matter how good they were in the past, comes to the end at a club at some point. It's only harsh if the club don't handle it well.Sounds harsh but I don't think we should be renewing. Give him the testimonial sendoff and thank him for his time, but he's definitely a weak link.
A GK upgrade is almost as needed as a CF for us if we are to go anywhere.
The world class shot stopper who has a save percentage of 66% this season (6th worst in the league) The only keepers who have saved less are Henderson, Ward, Ederson, Bazunu & Travers. He’s been past his best since 2018. He was never the same after the Russia WC. Spain realised this and promptly moved him on. We’re discussing giving him a new contract.concedes a lot for a ‘world class shot stopper’.
Get rid, been banging the drum for 4 seasons now or so.
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I don't think we should keep him around as second choice regardless of wagesNeeds to be replaced in the summer. If willing to drastically reduce his wages then we should try to convince him to stick around as the backup GK for a season or two, if not willing then give him his testimonial and a big thank you and best wishes for the future. Been a good servant to the club but we have to move on to a more modern and commanding GK.
They’d be wrong. Having a keeper suited to your style transforms your team instantly.Most people know we need to upgrade. Some just don't see it as more important than a striker cm and rb. At least most people anyway
We clearly need to upgrade. But the idea that it magically makes our attackers score goals is quite silly when you see the kind of chances they squander. We could have easily had 3 - 4 goals yesterday if our attack wasnt so shite. Bruno and Antony kept giving the ball away, flopping around instead of going for it, and even Rashford was off his game.They’d be wrong. Having a keeper suited to your style transforms your team instantly.
Season | No of performances in lowest ranked 10 |
17-18 | 0 |
18-19 | 1 |
19-20 | 0 |
20-21 | 3 |
21-22 | 2 |
22-23 | 4 |
Season | No of performances in highest ranked 10 |
17-18 | 4 |
18-19 | 1 |
19-20 | 0 |
20-21 | 1 |
21-22 | 4 |
22-23 | 0 |
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Yeah, that’s a terrible habit he has. But not as terrible as his habit of never taking command of situations when the ball is in our six yard box. Goalkeeping 101.Tweet
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I know that as a fan I don’t understand the technical aspects of keeping but surely someone needs to tell him to stop grabbing the post