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JagUTD

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Why are you all posting tweets form an account none of you think is legit?
Because every tweet that paints Jassim and co in a positive light is taken as the gospel truth, every tweet that doesn't is obviously rubbish.
 

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Re: The fan vote. I guarantee we already use data from social media to determine fan reaction to potential signings as loads of service companies are built around extracting that sort of information. Hootsuite is a popular one.
 

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City didn't take the entire setup of Barcelona but rather brought in one person from the club in the form of Txiki Begiristain. The CEO (Soriano) was fired from Barcelona and City brought him into their setup after he'd overseen the demise of Catalan Airlines.

The person who the City owners empowered was ex Nike executive, Garry Cooke. And it was through Cooke that another Nike employee, Brian Marwood was brought to the club in 2009, and he was empowered to create the foundations within the football departments at the club that would prove pivotal towards their success. The football structure at Man City was created by Brian Marwood. Txiki was only brought in because the club wanted to entice Guardiola. Txiki from what I've read about him, never had the experience to create football structures but was rather brought into setups at both Barcelona and Man City that were already developed by others.

And other clubs aren't doing anything out of the ordinary when it comes to having a well run setup. And if a prospective new owner empowers the people who run the football department via their CEO, then the chances of competing at all levels will be a real possibility.
I think Txiki Begiristain was key to them getting to where they are now and the long term vision the club had.
 

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I think Txiki Begiristain was key to them getting to where they are now and the long term vision the club had.
The key to them getting to where they're now is Brian Marwood if we focus on the development of their football structure. And their first EPL title came with Brian Marwood as the DoF.

And as far as Txiki is concerned, he's lucky that Guardiola came at the right time because he was piling up a lot of shite at City before that. City had finished on level points with Van Gaal's United prior to Guardiola‘s arrival.
 

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The key to them getting to where they're now is Brian Marwood if we focus on the development of their football structure. And their first EPL title came with Brian Marwood as the DoF.

And as far as Txiki is concerned, he's lucky that Guardiola came at the right time because he was piling up a lot of shite at City before that. City had finished on level points with Van Gaal's United prior to Guardiola‘s arrival.
Txiki was key to City getting Pep, so I don't think it's a matter of luck. It's the sort of long term plan the Glazers would never dream of
 

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Yeh that's fair. What I would say is that in most cases, the team that wins the league is also the most stable and best run club*. So I think if we transferred PSG as they have been run in France over to the UK, they'd have been quite similar to ourselves in terms of performance over that period.

*The obvious exception being Chelsea.
I don't think PSG are as badly run as people think, but one of their major issues is L1 not being a big enough league compared to the Premier League and Spain. Winning L1 just won't be considered enough, so they end up chopping and changing managers based on loosing one tie each year. It also means they've had to compromise to get in and keep the players they have (some of the stuff around mbappe in particular looks ridiculous) But not being a huge club like Real, United, Barcelona and the like does put them in that kind of position. That said I do think its a mistake but one they would be less likely to have to make at United, where the club will always outweigh a single player. Outside of the actual first team they seem to be investing heavily in the correct areas like their training campus.

I think they'd be top 3 in the PL every year and actual hard competition would benefit them.

I wouldn't be particularly worried about how the Qataris would run United based on PSG.

City's have hugely benefited from getting Guardiola at the most ideal moment they could have.
 
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Its an invented strawman since the Qataris have only bid for United.
Whatever the argument, the information that came out at the start was the Qataris didn't want to pay John Henry's price.

They were in for Liverpool first but got put off by the valuation.
 

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Because every tweet that paints Jassim and co in a positive light is taken as the gospel truth, every tweet that doesn't is obviously rubbish.
Come on, this is bullshit and you know it. You know very well that it would have been taken more seriously if it was the likes of Whitwell posting this, not a random troll account.
 

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The Qatari’s didn’t need all 10 hours to tour Old trafford.
Were they at OT for 10 hrs or was it 10hrs including Carrington?

Like with everything with this story people take bit of info that suit their own agenda. I'm sure Sir Jim was afforded all the same courtesies as the Sheikhs representatives were.
 

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Come on, this is bullshit and you know it. You know very well that it would have been taken more seriously if it was the likes of Whitwell posting this, not a random troll account.
I don't see any difference between him and the @Qatari guy. Could even be the same person.
 

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Nothing has been publically stated about the debt by INEOS

Who says there is a change of control clause?
Yes, there is a CoC clause, our financing agreements have been registered with the SEC and can hence be accessible.
 

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Txiki was key to City getting Pep, so I don't think it's a matter of luck. It's the sort of long term plan the Glazers would never dream of
Absolutely, Txiki was key for Man City to bring in Guardiola. And that was due to City being a low profile club. United sells itself. And I wouldn't say their thinking was long-term but rather tunnel visioned in the quest to bring in Guardiola. Because a lot of Txiki's signings prior to Guardiola's arrival didn't fit into Guardiola's methods.

Below is a article from James Ducker dated December, 2016. And Ducker calls out Txiki for his poor work in the transfer market and goes on to say that, Txiki wouldn't have lasted in his role, if it wasn't for bringing in Guardiola.

James Ducker: "They are making an unfortunate and costly habit of it. Picture the kid playing hook-a-duck at the fairground who keeps going back to his exasperated dad to ask for more money in the hope of finally landing the prize he craves and that gives you some idea of the game Txiki Begiristain, City’s director of football, has been playing with Sheikh Mansour’s cheque book."

Begiristain is a curious case. He flies almost entirely under the radar and yet it is hard to escape the feeling that, but for a close friendship with Pep Guardiola that enabled him to deliver on his promise of luring the world’s most revered manager to east Manchester, he might have struggled to hold on to his job for so long.

"His strike rate in the transfer market would, in cricketing terms, be enough to make any bowler shudder although there seems to be a particular blind spot when it comes to committing significant funds to sign defenders, a failing that pre-dates his arrival at City more than four years ago."

"Any Barcelona supporter who witnessed the succession of expensive defensive flops that came and went at the Nou Camp over the seven years Begiristain was sporting director is unlikely to register much surprise at the pattern unfolding at City."

"For Eliaquim Mangala, a £42 million recruit from Porto in 2014 since shipped out on loan to a Valencia side toiling near the foot of the La Liga table, read Dmytro Chygrynskiy at Barcelona. The Ukrainian centre-half cost £22 million from Shakhtar Donetsk in 2009 but made just 14 appearances before being sold at a £9 million loss 12 months later."

"Or for Nicolas Otamendi, signed for £32 million from Valencia last year but whose very name evoke images of Rio Ferdinand imploring the Argentinian via Twitter to “stay on his feet” after another brainless lunge, think Martin Caceres. Begiristain had Barcelona pay £15 million to bring him in from Villarreal. He managed only 13 games, spent the next year two years on loan and was jettisoned for just £2.5 million."



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...egiristain-man-citys-habit-signing-expensive/

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...man-city-txiki-begiristain-transfers-22778739


They only became a well run club since Guardiola joined.
 

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Were they at OT for 10 hrs or was it 10hrs including Carrington?

Like with everything with this story people take bit of info that suit their own agenda. I'm sure Sir Jim was afforded all the same courtesies as the Sheikhs representatives were.
I think the Qatari group were around 10 hours including Carrington and Ineos were around 7 hours.
 

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What are Jassims links to the Qatari state and PSGs owners?
Member of the massive Al Thani family, but not in the main branch of it that the current Emir belongs to. Chairman for the major Islamic bank in Qatar. His father was the former PM and head of the sovereign wealth fund QIA. PSG is owned by QSI, a subsidiary to QIA.
 

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Qatar is the best. Not only because they have the requisite wealth to transform the club, but also the community around it.

Not to mention that if they fail in our bid, its likely they go and buy the dippers, which would be a monumental feck up on our part and could change the future trajectory of both clubs.
Buy Liverpool with Jassim being a massive United fan for over 30 years, surely not?
 
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