FC Bayern München - 22/23 - No levers, no Lewy

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Now at least Bayern will have a better chance in the CL against City.
 

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This is why Bayern are successful. They don't get blinded by a few cup results and their position in the league (which is still healthy). They recognise when the club isn't going in the right direction and are prepared to ruthlessly nip things in the bud.

The complete inverse as to how we've behaved as a football club since SAF retired.
 

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I find it hilarious they are sacking Nagelsmann after having rifts in the within the club and replacing him with Tuchel of all managers. First Flick (though he left more than being sacked, but had internal problems) now Nagelsmann, only Ole will be able to please them.
 

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This is why Bayern are successful. They don't get blinded by a few cup results and their position in the league (which is still healthy). They recognise when the club isn't going in the right direction and are prepared to ruthlessly nip things in the bud.

The complete inverse as to how we've behaved as a football club since SAF retired.
Bayern are successful because they financially dominate the Bundesliga and exploit it like one massive farmland for players. Clubs from the PL don't have that kind of luxury.
 

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I never understood why managers who can choose, go to Bayern.
Club treat you like a dirt and you don't have a say for nearly anything. Formation, style of play, transfers...it is all set by "council of elders" Kahn, Brazzo and other club legends.
Ridiculous shit. Bayern is lucky that they are in Bundesliga where they will win 9/10 titles even without having proper manager.

I hope that Bayern posters will not be offended by this. If i am wrong, feel free to explain me.
How about their European record?
 

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What are they sacking him for then? Just saw the tweet. The best thing he ever did was wear that awful blazer in the CL, I knew there and then he wouldn't make it at the top level as a manager.
 

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this is like a farmer getting rid of his best tractor to get a slightly shinier tractor.
 

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Bayern are successful because they financially dominate the Bundesliga and exploit it like one massive farmland for players. Clubs from the PL don't have that kind of luxury.
They haven't spent as much as we have in the last 10 years in transfers or wages and didn't have the pull of the Premier League.

Yet their teams and playing styles have been light years ahead of us.
 

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He's got a win rate of 71%, beat PSG what more do they want ?
That 71% is including playing in the league where he should be winning 90% given their monopoly in the league. He’s 19% short and rightfully sacked

joking aside, i am sure I read something earlier that the ‘board’ weren’t happy about his dress attire etc and think maybe it just wasn’t meant to be.

he’ll be fine but might need to drop down a few levels to manage Liverpool or something like that
 

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I find it hilarious they are sacking Nagelsmann after having rifts in the within the club and replacing him with Tuchel of all managers. First Flick (though he left more than being sacked, but had internal problems) now Nagelsmann, only Ole will be able to please them.
It doesn't look good for Brazzo: he reportedly caused Flick to leave, he then apparently paid a stupendous fee for a coach, who couldn't make it through his second season and now he's apparently hiring a coach, who seems to be hard coded to blow up in his second or third year.
 

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Surprised.



They are unbeaten in the Champions League and one point off top domestically. It's not like Bayern is in freefall.
I think they were pretty clear at the top and they've been in poor form lately? They've allowed a couple of teams back in the race, and you know what the Bayern lot are like, they only have to complain and they can get their manager sacked easily.
 

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Surprised.



They are unbeaten in the Champions League and one point off top domestically. It's not like Bayern is in freefall.
Yeah but for Bayern, a team that has won the title at a canter for 10 consecutive years, being one point off the top is a disaster I guess.
 

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I haven't watched Bayern much at all recently, is the football bad? I know they're not dominating Bundesliga this season, but seems strange other wise.

But tbf Tuchel is a top tactician, his weakness is that he's terrible at transfers / squad building but Bayern have a pretty strong settled squad already.
 

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I am not saying that i is wrong policy. I mean; it does work. Trophies are coming.
But why managers throw their dignity away to be a part of that, is another story.
Same reason managers fall over themselves to coach Madrid knowing they will get fired
 

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I am not saying ithat i is wrong policy. I mean; it does work. Trophies are coming.
But why managers throw their dignity away to be a part of that, is another story.
Because it's actually not such a bad thing to have someone else provide a stable and successful framework for you, so you can focus (more) on your actual job. It's also not like Bayern's coaches don't have any say at all.
 

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I haven't watched Bayern much at all recently, is the football bad? I know they're not dominating Bundesliga this season, but seems strange other wise.

But tbf Tuchel is a top tactician, his weakness is that he's terrible at transfers / squad building but Bayern have a pretty strong settled squad already.
Coaches don't make transfers at Bayern
 

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Surprised.



They are unbeaten in the Champions League and one point off top domestically. It's not like Bayern is in freefall.
He hasn't been bad but I feel like this has been coming for awhile. He hasn't really transformed them, they aren't dominating the league despite this being one of the weakest Dortmund sides in recent years. If they are going to do it eventually then might as well be sooner especially with a WC manager available.

Btw I still rate Nagelsmann, it just wasn't a good fit.
 

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Tuchel to beat City and Madrid again :drool:
 

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This is why Bayern are successful. They don't get blinded by a few cup results and their position in the league (which is still healthy). They recognise when the club isn't going in the right direction and are prepared to ruthlessly nip things in the bud.

The complete inverse as to how we've behaved as a football club since SAF retired.
Bayern live in a one and a half team league. Behave!
 

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Are you talking about Mount or Musiala? Neither are on big money as far as I know, both less than £100K which is not massive for their respective teams.
Mount is on less than £100k? That's madness, thought he'd be on at least £180k. Still, he's shite, they might as well give Lingard a bash instead.
 

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Not surprised. Nagelsmann was not good enough in first place and Bayern are lucky that other teams are not better. Football they have been playing have been more about flair and not classic Bayern Munchen power. They have been moving wrong way. Tuchel is way, way above him and will definitly improve team. Althought it will take time to change some players.
 

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Same reason managers fall over themselves to coach Madrid knowing they will get fired
In Madrid, manager is a manager. He can choose a way how to play, who to play, have at least some say about transfers. In Madrid you have only Perez above manager. And he is ruthless fecker but he will not be involved in your job. Just have results or you are out. And yeah, Perez will buy you some galactico maybe :D without asking you.
In Bayern, Brazzo and Kahn (and other elders) basically tell manager how to play, who to play and who to buy and sell.
 

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I haven't watched Bayern much at all recently, is the football bad? I know they're not dominating Bundesliga this season, but seems strange other wise.

But tbf Tuchel is a top tactician, his weakness is that he's terrible at transfers / squad building but Bayern have a pretty strong settled squad already.
Tuchel always said he is only a head coach, not a manager. Transfer business is sport director's job.
 

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They haven't spent as much as we have in the last 10 years in transfers or wages and didn't have the pull of the Premier League.

Yet their teams and playing styles have been light years ahead of us.
That's because their position in the league is unique. They can literally buy any player from the Bundesliga for peanuts from other clubs. And for the most part, Bundesliga clubs are happy to oblige them. We don't have that luxury. We can't buy Harry Kane for 20 million quid. Even with 1 year left on his contract Tottenham will fleece us. The vast majority of players in our league go for 100 million right now. Bayern buys most of its player from the Bundesliga for less than 30.

When you have that financial leverage, it's pretty easy to be successful.
 

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Bayern live in a one and a half team league. Behave!
What's that got to do about anything? They've been miles ahead of us. Always one of the best teams in Europe and one of the favorites for the CL. They are incredibly well run.