Race for top 4 | Finito.

[Siorac]

It’s hard to be pedantic about a game in hand when you’re simply wrong about Liverpool being ahead of us on the home form table. Points to away game we are simply third.
Secondly, they would have to win 9 league games in a row if they wanted to win the rest of the games this season which is a run City haven’t even achieved this year.
Your post doesn’t make sense at any level. Have you seen their record away v bottom half teams? Wasn’t Leeds their first victory away to a bottom half team just last week? Where are you getting probably win against those sides from?
You jump from factually this and that to misrepresenting stats to simply completely disregarding them at all.
There’s nothing probable about any of this

Sorry, you are right, Liverpool are indeed two points behind us on the home table. Still, they are strong at home (as are we) and four of their six games are at Anfield.

Leicester have 11 defeats out 17, Southampton have 10 defeats out of 16 at home. I don't think I'm disregarding stats when I say Liverpool are likely to beat them. Not guaranteed and Liverpool do have a poor away record in general - but just like they beat West Ham and Leeds, I expect them to win these two away games as well. At the very least they are much more likely to win those than we are to win at Brighton or Spurs.

 

[always_hoping]

Man, I don’t get your pseudo, you look like you have no hope, for United anyway.

Do you seriously think Liverpool will take our CL spot ?

No but I'm not ruling out the possibility, with some tough games to play with a injury hit squad and weary after a very hectic season fighting on 4 fronts.

 

[Infra-red]

You can ignore what everyone else is doing - this is a simple equation. We need 13 points from a possible 24. Four wins and a draw from eight games.

Less than that and we won't get top 4, more than that and we have a good chance of finishing top 3.

 

[P-Nut]

No idea how this is even up for discussion any more. Only talking point should be 3rd or 4th.

 

[DJ_21]

Newcastle are a sure thing. Most of their games left are against the worst teams in the division and I include Chelsea in that.
There isn’t much for Liverpool to cling onto here. Newcastle might draw here and there but they don’t lose and those points add up.
The worst thing for Liverpool is the fact the bottom teams are so so poor and the teams on the beach now comes into play.
I’d even give Newcastle the edge over Liverpool if they were even in points but 9 points is ridiculous with 6 games left after tonight.

Ye id bet on Newcastle making it. Just hope we don’t drop silly points. We’ve got a few tough games coming up, starting with tonight. They may have looked awful recently but they have players up top who can cause any team problems, plus they’ve changed manager again which is typical as soon as we come to play them. We also have villa at the weekend who are one of the most in form teams in the league and Brighton away which will probably be our toughest game left.

 

[ThemanGiggsy]

after Sunday, dont we have a week break in between games? something we havent had almost all season. i think it will be very beneficial for our run in and securing top 4

 

[dwd]

after Sunday, dont we have a week break in between games? something we havent had almost all season. i think it will be very beneficial for our run in and securing top 4

One more midweek game next week yet. Away at Brighton

 

[Raw]

after Sunday, dont we have a week break in between games? something we havent had almost all season. i think it will be very beneficial for our run in and securing top 4

Nope, we got Brighton away on Thursday. We have another midweek game against Chelsea on 25th May but other than that we should only be on weekends.

 

[ThemanGiggsy]

One more midweek game next week yet. Away at Brighton

ahh crap. Well even after Brighton, i think finally having a week between games will be helpful

 

[groovyalbert]

1		Manchester City	38	28	6	4	97:34	63	90
2		Arsenal FC	38	26	6	6	86:42	44	84
3		Manchester United	38	23	7	8	59:42	17	76
4		Newcastle United	38	20	14	4	66:30	36	74
5		Liverpool FC	38	20	9	9	74:43	31	69
6		Brighton & Hove Albion	38	18	9	11	66:48	18	63
7		Tottenham Hotspur	38	18	6	14	66:60	6	60

Just had a play around with a score predictor, and this is how I have it panning out - included draws at Spurs and West Ham, and a defeat at Brighton.

https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-premier-league/

 

[padr81]

1		Manchester City	38	28	6	4	97:34	63	90
2		Arsenal FC	38	26	6	6	86:42	44	84
3		Manchester United	38	23	7	8	59:42	17	76
4		Newcastle United	38	20	14	4	66:30	36	74
5		Liverpool FC	38	20	9	9	74:43	31	69
6		Brighton & Hove Albion	38	18	9	11	66:48	18	63
7		Tottenham Hotspur	38	18	6	14	66:60	6	60

Just had a play around with a score predictor, and this is how I have it panning out - included draws at Spurs and West Ham, and a defeat at Brighton.

https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-premier-league/

Gave it a blast and got same top 6, and almost same ending totals.

City 88
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Arse 85
United 77
Newc 76
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Liverpool 71
Brighton 62
Villa 59

B'mouth 37
Leeds 34
Forest 34
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Everton 33
Leciester 32
S'amton 30

Feels super harsh on Villa but they've got such a hard run home.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

Atmosphere in this thread.

It’s honestly mind blowing, I can’t get over the negativity. It makes the match day threads seem normal.

 

[dwd]

Gave it a blast and got same top 6, and almost same ending totals.

City 88
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Arse 85
United 77
Newc 76
----------------------------
Liverpool 71
Brighton 62
Villa 59

B'mouth 37
Leeds 34
Forest 34
--------------------------
Everton 33
Leciester 32
S'amton 30

Feels super harsh on Villa but they've got such a hard run home.

You have Liverpool winning every game left?

 

[FerociousCorgis]

It’s honestly mind blowing, I can’t get over the negativity. It makes the match day threads seem normal.

think it is mainly a bit of realism mixed in with just the feeling of how shit our luck has seemed this season. Win today and think the mood shifts decently significant. Draw prob moves the needle a little positively. Loss and can see more nervousness creep in on the boards.

 

[padr81]

You have Liverpool winning every game left?

I guess I Lawro'd it.

I genuinely see Villa being the only trouble they'll have on the run home despite their struggles so far. Southampton and Leicester away and home games vs Spurs, Brentford, Villa and Fulham. Spurs are terrible, Brentford and Fulham on the beach plus its Anfield. They've only lost once at home this season and only Arsenal, City and United have better home records and City aside all the other are super close. On the last day Saints will probably be gone already and Leicester are a mess right now.

Their home record is 10,4,1. Arsenal are 12,3,1 and United are 11,3,1. They are still super strong at Anfield.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

think it is mainly a bit of realism mixed in with just the feeling of how shit our luck has seemed this season. Win today and think the mood shifts decently significant. Draw prob moves the needle a little positively. Loss and can see more nervousness creep in on the boards.

The thing is I’m definitely a pessimist when it comes to United but some of the opinions on here are absolutely wild.

 

[FerociousCorgis]

The thing is I’m definitely a pessimist when it comes to United but some of the opinions on here are absolutely wild.

for me i try to be a realist. Do i think united will lose out the remaining games? Hell no. But people do seem to be taking things for granted at times considering we struggle away vs top half teams. PLus playing spots 5-8 the next 3 games hardly means things will be super easy. Also our injury situation sucks ass. And pool are looking like jammy fecks right now i swear. So i am a bit nervous. I remember when we had that huge lead over newcastle and people were laughing at those who said they could catch us, and that happened really quick. Im hoping for a win today and then a a draw between spurs and pool and that should put things directly in our somewhat easy control.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

You can ignore what everyone else is doing - this is a simple equation. We need 13 points from a possible 24. Four wins and a draw from eight games.

Less than that and we won't get top 4, more than that and we have a good chance of finishing top 3.

Doesn't that depend what the teams behind us do as well.

 

[PoTMS]

Nearly done. We want a Newcastle win today, right?

 

[arnie_ni]

Nearly done. We want a Newcastle win today, right?

Why would we?

 

[Remember the geese]

Why would we?

I'd imagine that people are concerned about Liverpool taking their place.

 

[PoTMS]

Why would we?

Realistically, it's either them or Liverpool.

 

[Attila]

Why would we?

Keep Liverpool out of top 4

 

[Shane88]

Nearly done. We want a Newcastle win today, right?

God help you if we capitulate in the second half.

 

[DJ_21]

Why would we?

So the scousers can’t get top 4. We should finish in it now comfortably.

 

[arnie_ni]

I'd imagine that people are concerned about Liverpool taking their place.

Realistically, it's either them or Liverpool.

Keep Liverpool out of top 4

Fair enough. I thought we were thinking from our own teams POV

 

[charlenefan]

Newcastle doing their part

 

[Redfrog]

Bad half for the doom and gloom merchants on here. Good half of football !

 

[mu4c_20le]

Why would we?

OilCafe

 

[Stadjer]

Bad half for the doom and gloom merchants on here. Good half of football !

Dont worry... they will find something else to be negative about

 

[Witchking]

Bad half for the doom and gloom merchants on here. Good half of football !

Shut up with your nonsense. See what united are doing now. The team cannot be trusted to have 2 great halves of football. Giving a team like Spurs a way in. Any other big club would have been 4-5 up after that half and yet we struggle to gain foothold after a decent first half.

 

[Skills]

We're choking this to pool

 

[Shane88]

Nearly done. We want a Newcastle win today, right?

Just couldn't keep your mouth shut, could you?

 

[Witchking]

We're choking this to pool

Don't say that, the top reds will barge in here in a bit.

 

[PoTMS]

Just couldn't keep your mouth shut, could you?

Yep, it's me that caused this pathetic second half capitulation. Not like we've not seen this shite in every single one of our big away games this season.

 

[Ayoba]

Can't see us winning against villa tbh. We're so average

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Our complacency is exactly why I'm worried about Liverpool.

 

[RyRy11]

Any team in this league can beat us, not sure why everyone is so confident?

 

[LARulz]

Can't see us winning against villa tbh. We're so average

Also got Brighton and West Ham away as well

I don't think we'll make top 4

 

[Quagmire Maguire]

Couldn't care less about Champions League football, we made Reading look good this season, coming up against a Bayern Munich would be disgustingly embarrassing.

Another season in the Europa League would be fine, hopefully progress further in it next time!