Guess the joke's on me for having had any faith in Arsenal
Title Race 22/23
- Thread starter Skills
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Hmmmm
Hmmm
They might hit 90. It'll be a stretch though. They are missing 1 player through injury tbf
Saliba is their VVD?
They were title contender last few seasons when he's out on loan. And his injury looks like fecking their title run in
.......
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
There never was one !
City's remaining games: Everton (A), Chelsea (H), Brighton (A), Brentford (A).
Arsenal's remaining games: Newcastle (A), Brighton (H), Forest (A), Wolves (H).
Though City could win all 4, it's not like it's super easy games left for them + they got 2 matches vs Real Madrid coming. But they would have to lose one and draw one and Arsenal to win all 4 games for Arsenal to win it.
While I can see City dropping few points in 1-2 games (well probably only one), Arsenal still have to go today and win at Newcastle. Then win vs Brighton at Emirates. So it's minimal chances atm.
Arsenal's remaining games: Newcastle (A), Brighton (H), Forest (A), Wolves (H).
Though City could win all 4, it's not like it's super easy games left for them + they got 2 matches vs Real Madrid coming. But they would have to lose one and draw one and Arsenal to win all 4 games for Arsenal to win it.
While I can see City dropping few points in 1-2 games (well probably only one), Arsenal still have to go today and win at Newcastle. Then win vs Brighton at Emirates. So it's minimal chances atm.
No offence to Arsenal but I did say a few weeks ago this season's league title has been the easiest one for Pep in the last five years. Arsenal's half way 47 points were phenomenal for sure but Pep never aims to win the Christmas battle - he has zero interest in that.
This season Pep knew quite early Klopp was no challenge so took his own foot off the pedal. He knew Arsenal are no battle-hardened Liverpool and would have a serious dip through mental fatigue and pressure. As has been the case.
Thanks to Klopp, Pep could focus on the CL and "bed in" a new system with Haaland and without Sterling. Remember, Redcafe was saying Haaland had broken City's style of play?
This season Pep knew quite early Klopp was no challenge so took his own foot off the pedal. He knew Arsenal are no battle-hardened Liverpool and would have a serious dip through mental fatigue and pressure. As has been the case.
Thanks to Klopp, Pep could focus on the CL and "bed in" a new system with Haaland and without Sterling. Remember, Redcafe was saying Haaland had broken City's style of play?
Both 2018 and 2021 were very obviously easier. They were 16 and 13 points clear at the same stage of the season, respectively.
Yep they were. 2017/2018 just falls out of the 5 year scope. And 2020/21 was a horrendously injury full season (we were playing the equivalent of Phil Jones and Maguire for the majority of it
).Arsenal have had their full squad uninjured and fresh for the most part, the likes of injury prone Xhaka, Martinelli, even Saka managed to play for the majority of the season. Still not enough for Pep to think about holding two fingers to the sky and he could freely change his style of play to accommodate Haaland with no real damage done.
I disagree that it is an easy race, and still not yet finished, but… Did you still just try to make this years title race about Liverpool?
I'm like an open book.
This person does not exist but i feel your point relies heavily on hindsight.Had we only won 1 of those 3 draws i don't think Pep would consider this campaign a smooth cruise that he always knew he was winining. I agree that we were always going to dip but most people were looking at Newcastle/Brighton type of teams, not Southampton.Yep they were. 2017/2018 just falls out of the 5 year scope. And 2020/21 was a horrendously injury full season (we were playing the equivalent of Phil Jones and Maguire for the majority of it
Arsenal have had their full squad uninjured and fresh for the most part, the likes of injury prone Xhaka, Martinelli, even Saka managed to play for the majority of the season. Still not enough for Pep to think about holding two fingers to the sky and he could freely change his style of play to accommodate Haaland with no real damage done.
I don't think Pep or City have found it easy at all. I think we've smelled blood was your inexperience came to the fore but unless you drop points today the race is still ongoing. Think 3 points from 12 gave us real momentum but with a bit more know how and experience you guys would of had 7 (you should have beaten both WH and Liverpool) and would be neck and neck right now.
I don't anyone could predict you dropping those points in the manner you did, not even Pep so its been no smooth ride, even his losing his shit at Haaland and Gundogan yesterday show he's feeling it.
Its unfair of folk to say its not a title race, its 4 points with 4 games to go.
If you lose today it might be different but right now its absolutely still a race given we have Brighton away still to come and that and one other blip sees you have a chance.
You guys have had an excellent first half of the season but you've wavered a couple of times in the 2nd half of the season and been punished the 2nd time it happened. People trying to rewrite history thats its not been a good race is ridiculous when a month ago, most people were backing you to get it done.
It makes sense given Liverpool have been the only other well run and coached team but have nowhere near the obscene wealth that City do
Still life in this race? Got a hunch City won't win their remaining games. Everton and Brighton away will be tricky.
Arsenal will be kicking themselves that they didn't beat West Ham nor Southampton.
Arsenal will be kicking themselves that they didn't beat West Ham nor Southampton.
City to drop 5 points out of 12 and Arsenal none is not happening
It's definitely still on even though City need to drop 5 points. Next week is the big chance for City to lose focus as they prepare for the Madrid second leg. Brentford and Brighton are both difficult away fixtures as well. If they do win next weekend though, it's probably over.
May be unlikely but Brighton are no pushovers, Brentford away will be tough (think Brentford's last home game of the season?) and Chelsea could always pull a surprise, they still have some decent players on paper
It’s nearly completely over. Obviously always a possibility. Need a draw and a loss out of their last 4 games, which would be a collapse on their end.
City don’t do capitulations. They have periods where they are a bit lacklustre, but never full on capitulations.
I would genuinely be in complete shock if they somehow drop 4-5 points in their last 4 games.
Stranger things have happened but at least it seems they need to work for the title.
They looked vulnerable against Leeds towards the end. Hoping Real Madrid lead them a merry dance.
Arsenal won't drop points for the rest of the season. City might because they have one eye on the CL
If Man Utd Women win the WSL will be a bigger achievement than City winning the Premier League, it would probably attract a bigger trophy parade as well.
Title race is over but Arsenal need to finish the season strongly as often the momentum carries into next season.
Yes, i think it's important to finish strong and push City hopefully to the last day.
Hard to believe we lost it playing because of the Soton games. At least they wont be around next year!
Sadly I think Chelsea will win it.
Ive got a feeling you'll take points off Chelsea and hand us the title
I wouldn't mind that.
City will make it nervy but get the job done in the end. Similar to how they drew 2-2 to West Ham last season and then went 2-0 down to Villa on the final day of the season.
If Arsenal hadn't dropped points to Southampton at home in the 3-3 they'd still fancy this race. They've just left City too much breathing room, they can draw twice and still win the league on goal difference.
Haven't City been playing CL games during their 17 game unbeaten run (Leipzig, Bayern). No reason to think they can't continue managing both.
You probably even believe that in your head, don't you?
When City win it, they can thank West Ham for rolling over for them. By there supposed Ill players .. Well done let's see if there plan pays off on Thursday night?
A defeat against Brighton and a draw against Brentford is the best people can hope for if you want to see City lose the league.
Maybe a desperate Everton could grab a point at home against City but very unlikely.
Maybe a desperate Everton could grab a point at home against City but very unlikely.
Let's face it, City would have spanked them even if they had played their best XI. When City win the league, they can thank Arsenal for letting two-goal leads slip in consecutive games and failing to beat the 20th side at home.
City are on one of the all-time great runs. Since Feb 25th across all comps they're 15-1-0, outscoring opponents 52-8, with the draw being off a late equalizer during a comfortable second leg when they were up 4-0. Of the 8 goals they've conceded, five have been in meaningless situations in which its past the 70th minute and City is up by at least three goals and coasting. Essentially, they've conceded three potentially meaningful goals in 16 matches - Salah scoring first against them in a match they turned around to win 4-1, an early equalizer at Fulham after which it only took them 20 minutes to regain the lead, and an 85th minute goal this past weekend that brought Leeds back within 2-1. They haven't had the consistency over the course of the year that the Centurions had, partly due to learning to play with Haaland also seemingly dealing with a bunch of crap related to Cancelo, but their level over the last three months is as high as I've ever seen from them under Pep.
I don't see them tripping up twice in the last four games. If Arsenal was pressing them harder, they probably wouldn't even trip up once.
I don't see them tripping up twice in the last four games. If Arsenal was pressing them harder, they probably wouldn't even trip up once.
Last edited:
Maybe when Utd fielded weakend sides after they won league titles it was up roar. West Ham can do it so they can have fresh players for Europa conference and its fine? Same 4 or bad but fit for Sunday. ?
Sun could be interesting. City's form aside. Everton at home knowing a win will most likely keep them up
I definitely see City dropping points. They'll not be fully concentrating on the match and Goodison has never been easy for them. Think they'd take the draw.