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Are these parasites going to hold onto the club after all this. Imagine the reaction.
I would assume seeing as we have hired specialists we are already negotiating and scouting with both scenarios (rich and poor) in mind. Players will want to come. It should just be a matter of releasing the cash on the main priority area of the team and working backwards once the matter is settled. I’d imagine striker is #1. If we are rich we can pretty much fix the squad in one summer into one that should most likely be able to challenge. Hopefully anyway.The transfer window is going to be a trainwreck now I reckon. Fair chance our rivals all strengthen and pull away from us.
Riot like the French.Are these parasites going to hold onto the club after all this. Imagine the reaction.
Apologies I shall refrain from providing my personal predictions in future.But we just don't know what will happen. Look at Chelsea vs Newcastle this season after they were bought out. If you didn't know better you'd assume Newcastle were privately owned and Chelsea the sports-washing project.
Ok, cool. Although if you have any idea when BTC might next hit 50k I'm all ears. Asking for a friend.Apologies I shall refrain from providing my personal predictions in future.
source? @pocco @AlPistachoWorth remembering that even Ratcliffe's 50% bid is going to be paid in instalments. Whereas SJ is offering the full payment now.
December 3rdOk, cool. Although if you have any idea when BTC might next hit 50k I'm all ears. Asking for a friend.
ffswould be good to know @Plant0x84 ’s view on all this.
Exactly this is what will happen, Murtough and ETH will just assume that the club is being sold and both parties are probably looking at budgets of £200-250m with obvious players being sold. Five players released already including Jones and Tuanzebe which probably takes £160k off the wage bill already. Add the De Gea contract finishing and a new one being signed soon, you probably save another £175k per week. They will start on the obvious players being sold like E Bailly, A Teles and H Maguire. I think letting two CBs go and selling 2 more means it’s safe for them to pursue KMJ transfer, and probably a free Transfer like A Rabiot, I doubt any major transfers bar these two will be done before end of July early August at best.I assume that the club included the upcoming transfer window spend projections in the forecasts given to the prospective buyers, so Murtough et al should be able to push ahead with their targets relatively unimpeded by the takeover talk. The situation is not ideal, but I hope that the takeover won't adversely impact the summer plans.
If the club pay down the £200m credit facility as mentioned in the last quarter financial reports, then United will effectively be using the credit card for summer purchases.
I was referring to your thought process behind saying that SJR has no room to manouvre. Which is clearly based on nothing but what seems to be guesswork.As I said we don't know anything. We are feeding off reports. He may increase his offer by'£100-200m' but the Qataris are still in a position to offer a lot more if they want. The 'thought process' is simple negotiation by the Glazers. There's nothing complicated about it.
That plan to be rid of the debt is the sole reason why I'm for Qatar. Ratcliffe sounds like Glazers with extra steps.Tweet
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Neither. This is the Glazers.It's purely a numbers game now with this saga reaching a hectic conclusion. Will there be a long period of silence or will we get an unexpected conclusion?
Source?Worth remembering that even Ratcliffe's 50% bid is going to be paid in instalments. Whereas SJ is offering the full payment now.
*popcorn.gif*source? @pocco @AlPistacho
This present time its irrelevant, the budget will be the same whether or not the club is sold, burnt down, or placed as a Omaze prize. If someone can tell me different fair go, but thats what i see without being a mathematician.erm No.
Chelsea looks bad because the owner decided to go buybplayers himself. I hope our new owners have plans in place in case they win the biddingz plans that include the transfer budget, and who will oversee that budget.
I don't know about that. The Chelsea sale was done quickly because of the sanctions but if we go back and look at the prolonged nature of other takeovers its been fairly normal.Only the glazers can make the process of selling the club, with ready buyers, this slow and boring. Just feck off. We have an epic summer window to look forward to damn it!
Yeah so am I but no chance Jassim gets the club unless he is willing to pay £6bn (Ratcliffe's overall bid). I find it utterly ridiculous they would rather stay on and wait 2-4 years for that than accept around £5.5bn nowThat plan to be rid of the debt is the sole reason why I'm for Qatar. Ratcliffe sounds like Glazers with extra steps.
would be good to know @Plant0x84 ’s view on all this.
Best I can do is Ja Rulewould be good to know @Plant0x84 ’s view on all this.
Worth remembering that even Ratcliffe's 50% bid is going to be paid in instalments. Whereas SJ is offering the full payment now.
Well done you've fell for the propagandaThat plan to be rid of the debt is the sole reason why I'm for Qatar. Ratcliffe sounds like Glazers with extra steps.
Where's Ratcliffe saying he will clear debt thenWell done you've fell for the propaganda
If they ever step foot in the UK again they would be idiots.Are these parasites going to hold onto the club after all this. Imagine the reaction.
Avram will be here on June 3If they ever step foot in the UK again they would be idiots.
I can't imagine the reaction. People will do some horrible shite that is for sure.
Then I guess a deal involving the Glazers won't be done before then.Avram will be here on June 3
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“Since INEOS arrived in Nice, I don’t know who makes the decisions,” he said.
“I don’t know where they want to go. I don’t know what they want to do with this club, especially since with Manchester United behind us we don’t know if they’re going to pull out overnight.
“That’s what puzzles me, actually. A group like INEOS, which manages 17,000 people around the world and has a turnover of 80bn, is not even capable of managing a club like Nice at the moment and having a clear and defined strategy.
“When you take the best sporting director, Ghisolfi at Lens, who made miracles on the transfer market with three francs and six pennies.
“You see today that he is in total disagreement with what we are trying to impose on him concerning the extension of certain players like Ramsey.
“Who is making the decisions? Mr. Ratcliffe, Mr. Blanc, Mr. Rivère, whose silence has been deafening for the past few weeks regarding the affairs. He told us in February: You’ll see, we’ll give you the name of the future coach in February.
“It’s the end of May and we still don’t know what’s going to happen at Nice with the market coming up quickly. The direction that INEOS and OGC Nice want to take, I have no idea!”
You were close. Most likely they would get rid of deadwood and sign whoever they like, which would turn us into a team of mercenaries full of players here for the paycheque and would probably drop their heads when things aren't going well. They'll keep throwing money at the problems and as I've said before, won't hesitate to sack ETH as soon as he fecks up as he isn't their man.Where’s the certainty? I’m predicting what I think an Oil state would do vs what I think a conservative billionaire will do, taking into account the context of each ownership based on what is public about their bids.
What I have suggested Qatar do isn’t my dream scenario by any stretch, I’d actually prefer that we stick with Murtough/Fletcher/ten Hag and purchase sensibly and maintain a bit of consistency with the squad. I’d also rather we don’t go down the City route of inflated sponsors and doping but that’s what I expect from Qatar - we’re going to be a big shiny toy that has to be the biggest and shiniest in the world.
If they win out it will continue. After all, according to City they aren't state owned either.There are still people maintaining that this is not a state backed Qatari bid? Wow, how has it been 1300 pages of discussion, yet this basic point is still ongoing.
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Tbf I don’t know what to make of this. Easy to hate it if you’re against his bid, which I am. But realistically it’s probably right. If we want green energy, or even less dependence on foreign energy, then you have to make it easier for British companies that are utilising British energy sources.
Finally we have some semblance of confirmation on currency, if SJR has bid as the Telegraph reports of $3bn which is £2.4 billion pounds with the other two Glazers potentially holding on to their £1.2bn with an agreement that their shares could potentially in 4 years be worth up to £1.8bn after major changes Made to Man united under SJR, theand only then would that offer be valued for £6 billion as £4.2bn is 69.5% of £6 billion.In addition to Ratcliffe’s offer to buy the Glazers’ 69 per cent shareholding, the billionaire founder of the petrochemicals giant Ineos also made a proposal to take a 50.1 per cent share for around $3bn that would allow the Glazers to retain a minority stake for three years before being automatically forced out.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/05/16/manchester-united-takeover-qatar-sheikh-jassim-bid/
Why?The transfer window is going to be a trainwreck now I reckon. Fair chance our rivals all strengthen and pull away from us.
I don't think anyone has been able to provide any evidence in any of the 1300 pages that Jassim has the net worth or financial resources to support a cash bid of this magnitude.There are still people maintaining that this is not a state backed Qatari bid? Wow, how has it been 1300 pages of discussion, yet this basic point is still ongoing.
That’s actually awful and the clearest red flag but strangely something many are willing to ignore or try and make excuses for.that's called management Brexiteer's style.
A damning report on INEOS' running of Nice. I'm so glad @Plant0x84 isn't here to read this.Tweet
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