Does anyone think he might leave if they do the treble? I know he signed recently to stay on but I doubt he'd have expected they'd actually do it.
Don't think so. He's earning a feckton of money (a lot of it behind the scenes), and I don't think it's a straining job like say the Barcelona one which burnt him out.Does anyone think he might leave if they do the treble? I know he signed recently to stay on but I doubt he'd have expected they'd actually do it.
I think he'll go at the end of next season no matter what happens over the next few weeks and take on an international job for the 2026 world cupDoes anyone think he might leave if they do the treble? I know he signed recently to stay on but I doubt he'd have expected they'd actually do it.
Its wishful thinking. What killed us post Fergie was we decimated the structure that enabled his success. From the board room to recruitment to coaching. City instead have built an off field structure that can harness any apex coaching talent to their full capability. As long as they stick to the same path. They won't wobble much even after him.Will it be similar to us and SAF or is that wishful thinking?
They were but not at the relentless pace they do now. 12/13 was a very poor defence of the title and they were a fair way off in 14/15 aswell.They were winning leagues before he came.
Mancini and Pellegrini reached 89 and 86 points a decade ago and now they have an even deeper squad in terms of quality and much more experience as a top club as 15 years have passed since take over. They will reach much more than 75-80 points most seasons regardless of the manager (I am assuming the manager will be at least decent to good).They were but not at the relentless pace they do now. 12/13 was a very poor defence of the title and they were a fair way off in 14/15 aswell.
They'll drop down from 90 + seasons and be more in 75-80 point range imo.
They got 78 points in 12/13 which is more what I meant. Their first title for decades and there was huge mental drop off despite all of Kompany, Silva, Yaya, Aguero all being at their peaks in those years, should never have given Fergie such an easy last title especially given the average age of the Man. United side that season.Mancini and Pellegrini reached 89 and 86 points a decade ago and now they have an even deeper squad in terms of quality and much more experience as a top club as 15 years have passed since take over. They will reach much more than 75-80 points most seasons regardless of the manager (I am assuming the manager will be at least decent to good).
He will want to retain the CL. That’s what these types of people crave.Does anyone think he might leave if they do the treble? I know he signed recently to stay on but I doubt he'd have expected they'd actually do it.
They were still in their title winning infancy back then though. They might not be as good but they'll be fine without him, unless they hire Moyes.Pellegrini and Mamcini had one league title each and Mancini won his by the skin of his teeth. Pep is closing in on 5 in 6 years. There is every reason to believe that City will not be anything like as dominant as they are now when Pep leaves.
I think he'll go at the end of next season no matter what happens over the next few weeks and take on an international job for the 2026 world cup
True actually. Season after is more likely.He will want to retain the CL. That’s what these types of people crave.
Well yes that’s why they‘d drop to 1 league title every 2-3 years without Pep instead of 5 in 7 years. Mancini‘s and Pellegrini‘s title defence were bad, but their title wins were good. Similar to Klopp. He has great league seasons followed by average or even poor ones. His title defence was also bad.They got 78 points in 12/13 which is more what I meant. Their first title for decades and there was huge mental drop off despite all of Kompany, Silva, Yaya, Aguero all being at their peaks in those years, should never have given Fergie such an easy last title especially given the average age of the Man. United side that season.
14/15 under Pellegrini was 79 points so Chelsea got into a significant lead early on and Man. City just couldn't get near them.
They're relentless under Pep. People seem to think getting to 90 + points in a league season is easy for some reason. Look at the stick Arsenal are getting and they could still end on 87 points which remains a fantastic points haul, just not good enough to take down a Guardiola Man. City. It's only three fewer points than the Arsenal Invincibles finished on and they'd wrapped up the league by early April so that's the different standards Guardiola achieves, same with some of the points hauls he used to get in Bundesliga.
You're probably right, he'll just join another club that's prepared to make dodgy payments.A completely irrelevant question don't you think?
As were we for large periods under Fergie.They were also a complete meme club in Europe and nowhere near as dominant.
They will definitely decline once Pep leaves. Issue is, he might not leave for a good while.
Aye but he's not gonna be alive for another hundred years is he?He’s never going to leave, there is no better club for him, and he’s obsessed with football so he’s not just going to suddenly retire.
They're only well run because of him though, he papers over the cracks. City have the best PR game in the business and it works a treat. We've seen exactly what they're like without him.They aren't going to regress badly as they are just too well run to.
What we should all be happy with is if they revert back to 80+ point seasons instead of 90+ point seasons, as that least gives others a more realistic chance of competing a bit more regularly.
I see your point but I don't know. Mansour took over fully in 2008. Takes a while to get going, I get that. First title was in 2012. Second was in 2014. All in all they had 2 titles in about 8 years before Pep took over. Pep will have 5 in 7 years at the club. Basically, the only times he hasn't won are his first season and the Covid year when Liverpool started like gangbusters. I still think the evidence suggests that they won't be anywhere near as dominant once he leaves. They'll get the best guy they can (unlike United did!) but he won't be as good as Pep most likely.They were still in their title winning infancy back then though. They might not be as good but they'll be fine without him, unless they hire Moyes.
They won their first title in 2012. Since then...They're only well run because of him though, he papers over the cracks. City have the best PR game in the business and it works a treat. We've seen exactly what they're like without him.
Why would he do this? He’s got everything he could ever want at city.I think he'll go at the end of next season no matter what happens over the next few weeks and take on an international job for the 2026 world cup
I think the issue is he's burned through the top 3 leagues relatively quickly in his career. He's a Barcelona legend (I would assume) and won't join real or go back to Barca, Italian teams don't have the kind of resources he wants as a manager, he won't go back to bayern, he won't join another Premier league side, so it leaves psg (where his biggest strengths, domestic competition, doesn't really matter too much) and international sides, which again don't really offer the ability to build a side the way he likes to.Does anyone think he might leave if they do the treble? I know he signed recently to stay on but I doubt he'd have expected they'd actually do it.
There will defo be some change at City, can add the likes of Bernardo Silva and Laporte that are looking to leave as well. However, with most other clubs i'd expect a spiral in this case. But i just think that they seem to cope because their planning is very good as well. Walker and Mahrez already aren't automatic first choice picks any more. If they sell Laporte, they'll likey move for Gvardiol. They wanted Bellingham to replace Gundogan, if they don't get him they could go for Kovacic or Mac Allister. They have Foden who has barely been starting recently as well.I actually want him to stay because unlike you guys who think it will get easier, I think this is the part where it gets trickier. The core of the team is getting on in age and need to be replaced. KDB, Gundo, Mahrez, Kyle Walker are all over 32 and those are rare players that aren't available everywhere. Plus the others are bound to improve. Arsenal look like they are back on track to contend regularly and they will only get better. United are on the way back and are about to be debt free, Chelsea will be miles better and Liverpool have finally recognised that they need to rebuild this summer. Plus there is the little matter of Newcastle who have an even richer state behind them and are about to enter the CL.
But they were always going to progress as a project. After winning titles before Pep they've spent huge amounts. Unless a complete numpty was in charge they were always going to become more consistent.They were but not at the relentless pace they do now. 12/13 was a very poor defence of the title and they were a fair way off in 14/15 aswell.
They'll drop down from 90 + seasons and be more in 75-80 point range imo.