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Makes little sense keeping him. This is the easiest chance we have to cut ties but we won’t do itIf he's staying as back up I don't understand why we want a number 2 that requires us to change up our entire build up phase to accomodate him whenever he plays. Look at Ortega when he comes in for City there's zero disruption to Citys build up play.
It's not like he's a cup specialist either considering his penalty record.
Although I agree he does not command his box, replacing him is not a priority. Our defense has done well except for four/five games where the whole team fell apart.He's done a decent job and credit to him for having a good end to the season. I still think we need to move him on though. We need a more commanding presence in goal and someone who is going to come for crosses more. Make the defence feel more comfortable. I'm not sure ddg does that.
That's an interesting comment. Guess we'll know more about De Gea's situation after Fa Cup final.Tweet
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Then why the feck do you want an expensive back up Erik?Tweet
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Dressing room I guess.If he's staying as back up I don't understand why we want a number 2 that requires us to change up our entire build up phase to accomodate him whenever he plays. Look at Ortega when he comes in for City there's zero disruption to Citys build up play.
It's not like he's a cup specialist either considering his penalty record.
Well, GK is the no1 priority even higher than striker.Although I agree he does not command his box, replacing him is not a priority. Our defense has done well except for four/five games where the whole team fell apart.
Golden glove man can stay another year while we sort out striker position, midfield and maybe a class right back.
It doesnt. It says he will have competition, which is healthy. They dont give him 200k pw and sign someone else on the same or higherThe tweet below pretty much confirms he’s going to be backup if he stays.
Nah striker is way more important.Well, GK is the no1 priority even higher than striker.
No its definitely notWell, GK is the no1 priority even higher than striker.
I don't think it would surprise anyone but it also shouldn't be surprise if our funds go elsewhere and he staysIt wouldn't surprise me if he's released.
It would surprise me, he's been offered a contract so someone wants him to stayIt wouldn't surprise me if he's released.
He’s said he doesn’t have the ability with his feet that he likes his goalkeepers to have, and refused to confirm him as his number 1 for next season. What other teams have ‘competition’ for the goalkeeper position? De Gea is clearly stalling as he obviously sees it coming, the league’s finished and he still hasn’t signed.It doesnt. It says he will have competition, which is healthy. They dont give him 200k pw and sign someone else on the same or higher
Not by a few miles. DDG might have a weakness in ball playing, but it's not as terrible as people make it out to be, the bigger problem is that it is exacerbated when we play ball playing liabilities like Maguire, AWB, McT and Fred. If the rest of the team can flow the ball without issue, you won't even notice that DDG is bad at this.Well, GK is the no1 priority even higher than striker.
But it needs to be decided quickly. Transfer window is open till end of August, while de Gea is to be extended or released till end of JuneI don't think it would surprise anyone but it also shouldn't be surprise if our funds go elsewhere and he stays
Its obviously speculation in my part but I think its logical to expect that it wont be a long term deal. We dont tend to give out five year deals to players in their 30s especially at GK where we expect him to be the number 2 within a season or two.Your comment only makes sense if it's a one-year extension. What if it's four or five, as tends to be the case when we extend players' contracts?
I'm not bothered if he's on the bench on a short term contract. But the main thing is to move forward and have a goalkeeper as the #1 who will be the free-man in the build up phase or as ten Hag put it, the plus 1. You can't carry on with a keeper who doesn't provide the free-man option in the build up phase. It's a big weakness for a coach who adheres to the positional play principles.The rest of the quote suggests not:
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Sounds more like he'll be here but there will be some form of competitive alternative.
The players you mentioned rarely play this season.Not by a few miles. DDG might have a weakness in ball playing, but it's not as terrible as people make it out to be, the bigger problem is that it is exacerbated when we play ball playing liabilities like Maguire, AWB, McT and Fred. If the rest of the team can flow the ball without issue, you won't even notice that DDG is bad at this.
But when our midfielders hide or lose the ball with minimum press, and our defenders just pass the ball to DDG 20 times per minute, it's a huge problem.
Striker is more important considering United doesn't have one. Martial plays for 20 games a season.Well, GK is the no1 priority even higher than striker.
Where are you getting 200k per week figure .It doesnt. It says he will have competition, which is healthy. They dont give him 200k pw and sign someone else on the same or higher
Every half decent Tom, Dick and Harry keeper nowadays is going for £20m+, De Gea on a free even with £200k/week will have plenty of options, it’s not like he’s ancient.Where are you getting 200k per week figure .
If 200 k was on table from United it would have been signed and sealed long time back from De Gea camp I don't think he is deluded enough to believe he can do better elsewhere .
Respectfully disagree the Clubs capable of giving 200k wages a week to goalkeepers won't touch De Gea even with Ten feet barge pole he isn't good enough , if he is released he is more likely to suffer similar fate to Ronaldo not sure even Mendes could work his magic here .Every half decent Tom, Dick and Harry keeper nowadays is going for £20m+, De Gea on a free even with £200k/week will have plenty of options, it’s not like he’s ancient.
Where did he say that?He’s said he doesn’t have the ability with his feet that he likes his goalkeepers to have, and refused to confirm him as his number 1 for next season. What other teams have ‘competition’ for the goalkeeper position? De Gea is clearly stalling as he obviously sees it coming, the league’s finished and he still hasn’t signed.
Although it’s frustrating we’d have such an expensive number 2, getting a new number 1 will be transformative. It’s brilliant news either way.
He’s still better than Lloris for one and £30m over 3 years for him for Spurs is a perfectly reasonable investment, it’s not like you are going to pay a keeper 10k a week if you buy him for 20-30m. Same with Kepa, and I haven’t even gone down to other clubs.Respectfully disagree the Clubs capable of giving 200k wages a week to goalkeepers won't touch De Gea even with Ten feet barge pole he isn't good enough , if he is released he is more likely to suffer similar fate to Ronaldo not sure even Mendes could work his magic here .
And though he may not be ancient but he is certainly obsolete .
Maybe I am underrating De Gea or may be you are Overrating him at the End of the day it's just opinions till proven otherwise .He’s still better than Lloris for one and £30m over 3 years for him for Spurs is a perfectly reasonable investment, it’s not like you are going to pay a keeper 10k a week if you buy him for 20-30m. Same with Kepa, and I haven’t even gone down to other clubs.
Just because Utd fans like to bitch and moan about his distribution (which is deserved) doesn’t mean he is unwanted at this level, same with Maguire. The only notable stumbling block is resale value but most PL club can well afford 30-40m outlay over 3-4 years for a keeper like De Gea.
We are almost certainly lowballing him and telling him he probably won't be first choice. If 200k per week was on the table Dave would have taken it and signed ages ago. As it is we are in the last week of the season and his contract is nearly up.It doesnt. It says he will have competition, which is healthy. They dont give him 200k pw and sign someone else on the same or higher
Are they? I must have missed how much Maignan, Kobel, Pope, Sommer, Donnarumma, Onana, Lafont, Lopez, Ortega, Vandevoort, Samba, Rulli, Sa etc moved for over the past couple of seasons.Every half decent Tom, Dick and Harry keeper nowadays is going for £20m+, De Gea on a free even with £200k/week will have plenty of options, it’s not like he’s ancient.
Just a glance tell me a few of them are free transfers/back ups, and most play outside of the PL, so what relevance does it have to my original point, do I need to qualify it with ‘PL clubs’? Henderson is mooted for 20-25m transfer after one good loan at Sheffield, 2 years on the bench and one decent season at Forest, Martinez went for 20m after one good season at Arsenal, Ramsdale went for 30m after getting relegated, Pickford went to Everton 6 years ago for 25m. There are bargains to be had, as always, but buying a starting GK nowadays even for non-top 6 clubs will cost you a fair chunk, unless you are willing to take a big risk, just look at Leicester’s goalie situation post Kasper Schmeichel.Are they? I must have missed how much Maignan, Kobel, Pope, Sommer, Donnarumma, Onana, Lafont, Lopez, Ortega, Vandevoort, Samba, Rulli, Sa etc moved for over the past couple of seasons.
If he has plenty of options, why has nobody heard of any of them given that he's been free to speak to any club outside of England for the past 6 months? The red tops haven't even got wind of any interest him and they'll report on literally anything.
You don't need to qualify it with anything, because it is just complete nonsense. There are always good goalkeepers available for not a lot of money. Of the list I gave there were three free transfers; Donnarumma and Onana, surely nobody would take De Gea over either of those, and Ortega, who is the only back-up goalkeeper on the list but would certainly have been a better option to genuinely push De Gea than bringing in Dubravka and Butland on loan (particularly given how much of a better purely stylistic fit he'd be for the team). You've also got one of the very best goalkeepers in the world on the list, who went for less than £15m, as well as one of the very best prospects in the world on the list who went for around £10m. The problem Premier League clubs tend to have is they don't look very far. And in fairness to Henderson he had a lot more going for him than "one good loan".Just a glance tell me a few of them are free transfers/back ups, and most play outside of the PL, so what relevance does it have to my original point, do I need to qualify it with ‘PL clubs’? Henderson is mooted for 20-25m transfer after one good loan at Sheffield, 2 years on the bench and one decent season at Forest, Martinez went for 20m after one good season at Arsenal, Ramsdale went for 30m after getting relegated, Pickford went to Everton 6 years ago for 25m. There are bargains to be had, as always, but buying a starting GK nowadays even for non-top 6 clubs will cost you a fair chunk, unless you are willing to take a big risk, just look at Leicester’s goalie situation post Kasper Schmeichel.
I don’t claim to know what’s going on with De Gea, he’s expressed his wishes to stay publicly multiple times though, so clubs may feel it’s a waste of time to approach at this point. If talks break down and Mendes shops him around, it’s hardly outrageous that more than a few clubs, especially promoted/relegation fighters would be interested at £10m a year on a 2+1 deal, for instance.
Sa just had a crap season and is being pushed by Bentley, Somner is first choice now because Neuer got a serious injury, he’s absolutely back up next season, you even have Nantes GK in there, Milan got Maignan on a shrewd deal but if he moves again this summer it will be a lot more than €13m.You don't need to qualify it with anything, because it is just complete nonsense. There are always good goalkeepers available for not a lot of money. Of the list I gave there were three free transfers; Donnarumma and Onana, surely nobody would take De Gea over either of those, and Ortega, who is the only back-up goalkeeper on the list but would certainly have been a better option to genuinely push De Gea than bringing in Dubravka and Butland on loan (particularly given how much of a better purely stylistic fit he'd be for the team). You've also got one of the very best goalkeepers in the world on the list, who went for less than £15m, as well as one of the very best prospects in the world on the list who went for around £10m. The problem Premier League clubs tend to have is they don't look very far. And in fairness to Henderson he had a lot more going for him than "one good loan".
That’s not a comparison for us, I specifically said non top 6 clubs, we should be aiming higher but for a midtable or relegation fighting club, taking a chance on the GK position can land you in the shit quickly, as every point matters.As for Leicester, that's a ridiculous comparison as the risk they took was letting a rapidly declining goalkeeper go and signing absolutely nobody. We aren't going to do that, we'll be signing at least one goalkeeper in the summer regardless of what happens.
