gajender
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What Old Guard ?I wouldn't be surprised if he's protected by the old guard at the club.
What Old Guard ?I wouldn't be surprised if he's protected by the old guard at the club.
Insane to think about, isn't it. Assuming we get a new first choice keeper next season, DDG dropping to 100k would still make him the highest paid backup in the league.Even if it's reducecd by 200k, he'll still be on 175k p/w which is more than any keeper in the PL. He should be on no more than 100k p/w if that but no way he'd drop by nearly 300k.
Anyone who has been at the club for more than 10 years and still has a significant role.What Old Guard ?
I’ve kind of always been resigned to the fact that they’ve already agreed an extension a while ago and they’re just awaiting the perfect (or most opportune) time to announce it. I don’t trust the club to handle this situation correctly and kick him to the curbTweet
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Is this tweet a joke? Anybody on the planet knows we will get a new GK. But maybe it is correct that we won’t spend big to get a new GK.Tweet
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Agree with this , 20-30 m might not be considered significant in terms of player acquisition but it should be more than enough to bring in Decent Goalkeeping prospect .Is this tweet a joke? Anybody on the planet knows we will get a new GK. But maybe it is correct that we won’t spend big to get a new GK.
The club are definitely not in tune with what the fans, media or a lot of ex players are saying if that's the case. DDG has a lot of goodwill because of his 500+ appearances but even a lot of his most ardent fans are starting to get annoyed with this situation. Shades of Rooney's last few years here.Judging by his words yesterday he wants to seems like he isn't being allowed to. This has our board written all over it. Less than a week ago he refused to confirm if De Gea was extended if he would be the #1 next season. ETH definitely wants to bring another GK but seems like the board wants to keep De Gea because he's supposedly a club legend, which is only because he's the longest tenured player now.
Ownership and therefore the upper management structure to blame, isn’t it the most reasonable explanation?I really don’t understand why your club has such a hard time improving. You keep doing the same and try absolutely nothing new and yet you still don’t manage to find success.
We don't need any more center backs. Fix the GK issue and the CB issue fixes itself.Fine to bring in someone who could replace DDG in 2 years but we can't score. We need at least 2 strikers, 2-3 midfielders and 1-2 center backs. Unless we're blaming DDG for him not scoring more, there are more pressing issues. 2-1 flattered us. We're miles from being anywhere near as good as Citeh.
One of the reasons we don’t score a lot is the play from back is so bad.Fine to bring in someone who could replace DDG in 2 years but we can't score. We need at least 2 strikers, 2-3 midfielders and 1-2 center backs. Unless we're blaming DDG for him not scoring more, there are more pressing issues. 2-1 flattered us. We're miles from being anywhere near as good as Citeh.
2 years more of Calamity Dave in the goal would not only be the end of Ten Hag might even see off his successor too.Fine to bring in someone who could replace DDG in 2 years but we can't score. We need at least 2 strikers, 2-3 midfielders and 1-2 center backs. Unless we're blaming DDG for him not scoring more, there are more pressing issues. 2-1 flattered us. We're miles from being anywhere near as good as Citeh.
Your second sentence solved the riddle you posed with your first.I really don’t understand why your club has such a hard time improving. You keep doing the same and try absolutely nothing new and yet you still don’t manage to find success.
Obviously. I'm just joking around. I just don't get the reasoning the people in charge seem to have. You keep extending contracts of players underperforming. If it was up to your management, Pogba would most likely still be at the club. His greed was the only thing saving you. If you actually extend DDG, the people in charge should just be honest and admit that they don't give a shit and have no ambition. Trying to extend with DDG, Jesus Christ. The man wouldn't even sit on the bench for some top clubs.Ownership and therefore the upper management structure to blame, isn’t it the most reasonable explanation?
Exactly. That’s the reason the fans have felt it enough is enough. Glazers have to go. They have kept sinking the ship gradually for so many years without learning anything (latest is Ronaldo) and somehow they think they can do a better job in the future!Obviously. I'm just joking around. I just don't get the reasoning the people in charge seem to have. You keep extending contracts of players underperforming. If it was up to your management, Pogba would most likely still be at the club. His greed was the only thing saving you. If you actually extend DDG, the people in charge should just be honest and admit that they don't give a shit and have no ambition. Trying to extend with DDG, Jesus Christ. The man wouldn't even sit on the bench for some top clubs.
its called Glazernomics. Cheaper to keep players at the club than overpay on newI really don’t understand why your club has such a hard time improving. You keep doing the same and try absolutely nothing new and yet you still don’t manage to find success.
And they don't even have some success. Relative to the money spent, the outcome is disastrous. And whenever your team shows glimpses of hope and it looks like there might be a new dawn, they pull shit like this with De Gea.Exactly. That’s the reason the fans have felt it enough is enough. Glazers have to go. They have kept sinking the ship gradually for so many years without learning anything (latest is Ronaldo) and somehow they think they can do a better job in the future!
It's called variance
Why would we want a keeper that Brighton deemed not good enoughSanchez is second choice in Brighton now. Why don’t we get him? Probably just 20mils are enough.
Someone thinks him not good so you think him not good? That’s how you make a judgement? He is a huge upgrade on DDG. If we don’t have money on GK then why not to get Sanchez in?Why would we want a keeper that Brighton deemed not good enough
He isn't a huge upgrade but I know the hysterics on the forum is today's thing. The whole ddg thing is overblown. People need a think to be angry at since Maguire is out of the team. If ddg leaves it'll just move onto another player who is 'clearly the problem'.Someone thinks him not good so you think him not good? That’s how you make a judgement? He is a huge upgrade on DDG. If we don’t have money on GK then why not to get Sanchez in?
Said this in April, he might win Golden glove and others but he will keep on costing us in important games likes Cup finals. He needs replacing.Sell Maguire , Henderson , release David De Gea , and buy a decent keeper we will be good defensively.
David De Gea is decent for most of the season but when he plays bad game , he plays very badly and most of these bad performances are in Knockout matches which cost us.
But not sure if we have many options to buy GK. We might rue not buying Yan Sommer.
He was a problem before we even signed MaguireHe isn't a huge upgrade but I know the hysterics on the forum is today's thing. The whole ddg thing is overblown. People need a think to be angry at since Maguire is out of the team. If ddg leaves it'll just move onto another player who is 'clearly the problem'.
United are run by morons. And while the Glazers are still here, will continue to be run by morons.I really don’t understand why your club has such a hard time improving. You keep doing the same and try absolutely nothing new and yet you still don’t manage to find success.
Everything you've said is true. The people in charge above the manager aren't good enough at their jobs and insaneObviously. I'm just joking around. I just don't get the reasoning the people in charge seem to have. You keep extending contracts of players underperforming. If it was up to your management, Pogba would most likely still be at the club. His greed was the only thing saving you. If you actually extend DDG, the people in charge should just be honest and admit that they don't give a shit and have no ambition. Trying to extend with DDG, Jesus Christ. The man wouldn't even sit on the bench for some top clubs.
Jones is different. He has a tenure.I mean I only read yesterday that Phil Jones is still under contract with you. Didn't even know about this. Genuinely thought that was a joke people on here were having.
He was fairly young and coming into a new league and culture when Ferguson signed him. If i remember correctly, the main issue, at first, was his concentration. He would produce fantastic saves followed by howlers. Ferguson, being the great man-manager he was, always protected him from the criticism coming from people on the outside looking in (press, pundits, ex-players etc.), but, when he felt De Gea hadn't made the desired progress, he would give Lindegaard the occasional start, just to keep David on his toes. There was also talk about him lacking the skill to command his area and, purportedly, his coaches (Chris Woods and Eric Steele, i think) were working on that. But, back then, De Gea was one of the players around whom the new side would be built. Ferguson was always very protective of the players he believed would help the club move forward. How De Gea himself interpreted SAF's arm around his shoulder, we don't know. His concentration got better with time, but the rest of the weaknesses pertained. I guess it was OK back then, since an ageing defensive line and midfield saw us defending very deep and very narrow during our last successful campaign in 2012/13. We still conceded numerous goals from crosses and set-pieces, but Evra and Rafael's inability to defend high balls and our undercooked zonal-marking were being blamed more than De Gea. Plus, we were still winning stuff back then.How would you guys on here rate the coaching De Gea received through the years? Did the coaches try to improve on his weaknesses or did they allow him to just do what he wants?
I see what you mean by the bounce. Not only that it seems like he takes a step to the left then dives to the right. It's insaneI'm sure that it's part of the natural movement of the dive, to bounce and get ready to jump. But it's the timing of the little jump before he sets himself to dive that just seemed off. That's why he was too late to react. Maybe that's being hyper critical, but at the very top small margins of fractions of a second make a huge difference.
1.57 - just as the ball is stuck he's off the ground and still adjusting his position, not ready to dive, can't react by the time he's set again.
2.15 - he does the little bounce again just as Rodri gets the header, ends up rooted to the spot.
6.08 you can see the little bounce again just as Gundogan strikes the ball once again he's too late to react by the time he's hit the ground and set again.
I don't understand this view. What was fine about yesterday?Did fine yesterday. Long kicking is hard and seems to be people's main gripe. We are playing against a great pressing side with nobody able to win a header up front. Put neuer in net yesterday we still aren't creating tons from the long smashes up to rashford, whatever wierd fantasy people have about it