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Our finances are public. Messier1994 (Swedish Rumble) has some very good posts in here where he lays out the FFP situation with the actual numbers backing it up.

If we sell the right players, the transfer fees we receive can have a multiplicative effect on the amount we're able to spend this summer - hence your point about our targets not screaming FFP restrictions.
But we’re not. The ffp watch list is more or less public and we aren’t on it, funnily enough Arsenal are. A random poster wouldn’t be the first person to add up the numbers without knowing what he’s adding up.
I think the confusion comes in when we didn’t sell players last summer due to Ten Hag wanting to assess the squad before a clear out. It delayed our sales income so it looks like a huge net spend but that will naturally even out when we sell Maguire etc this summer. Let’s say that’s true and We may have 100/150m to spend, that’ll increase with the sales by another 100m or so which means we aren’t under pressure at all .
Even the leaked stories about Ten Jag not knowing what money we have to spend after Mount and the Napoli defender bears that out. Eric would know if ffp were layed out in stone as it’s made out to be on here.
When we do sail close to ffp wind we will get a warning from UEFA and everybody would basically know.
 

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I assume that the Glazer family between them and Sir Jim and trying to iron all the details out now behind the scenes, but that could take months.
 

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FFP is accrual-based, not cash flow based. Two different issues.
Yes. And there are different ways to make signings and it have a different impact on the FFP. See Chelsea spending 600m in 1 season but punting it all over long contracts. The actual cash flow we have and are willing to commit in future payments has always been the bigger limiting factor when it came to our summer budgets and will again be the same factor this summer, not FFP. Getting to the point where FFP is actually restricting us would mean a record summer net spend for us, blowing our previous records out the park.
 

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But we’re not. The ffp watch list is more or less public and we aren’t on it, funnily enough Arsenal are. A random poster wouldn’t be the first person to add up the numbers without knowing what he’s adding up.
I think the confusion comes in when we didn’t sell players last summer due to Ten Hag wanting to assess the squad before a clear out. It delayed our sales income so it looks like a huge net spend but that will naturally even out when we sell Maguire etc this summer. Let’s say that’s true and We may have 100/150m to spend, that’ll increase with the sales by another 100m or so which means we aren’t under pressure at all .
Even the leaked stories about Ten Jag not knowing what money we have to spend after Mount and the Napoli defender bears that out. Eric would know if ffp were layed out in stone as it’s made out to be on here.
When we do sail close to ffp wind we will get a warning from UEFA and everybody would basically know.
Which is basically what I said. FFP is more of a constraint than cash flow, but it's a manageable constraint with the right sales (which will have a multiplicative effect on how much we're able to spend).
 

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This is nonsense, united's share price places its value at 3bn dollars there's already a 100% premium basically being paid, if either reaches 6bn dollars, its never going to be worth far more than that. Ratcliffe and jassim aren't buying it for an investment purpose
I've never bought a football club, but my observation is that valuations of sports franchises keep going up. The Dallas Cowboys are now "worth" $8B, way up from whatever it was worth when Jerry Jones bought the club more than 30 years ago. According to one website: https://www.statista.com/statistics... franchise value,million U.S. dollars in 1989., the 'boys were worth only $874 million 21 years ago.

United comes in at #19 globally, according to Forbes, at $4.6B, but surely no one here believes that in 21 years it won't be worth at least double that.

But let's assume that investment purposes have nothing to do with this, which I agree with -- would Jassim balk at acquiring United over a measly additional $1 billion that he'd have to spend to get total control of the club? I seriously doubt it.
 

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Yes. And there are different ways to make signings and it have a different impact on the FFP. See Chelsea spending 600m in 1 season but punting it all over long contracts. The actual cash flow we have and are willing to commit in future payments has always been the bigger limiting factor when it came to our summer budgets and will again be the same factor this summer, not FFP. Getting to the point where FFP is actually restricting us would mean a record summer net spend for us, blowing our previous records out the park.
I think we're all saying the same thing but in different ways.

If the sale doesn't happen, then yes, the cash flow issue will feck us royally. Existentially even.

My point on cash flow not being a constraint for transfers this summer is made with the assumption that the sale occurs in a timely manner and whoever buys the club cleans up its finances. For now, we have the company credit card and we can put transfers on it, spread the payment terms around, etc.
 

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I suspect it’s the other way round now and Qatari’s haven’t been dismissed to make sure INEOS give Glazers a more favourable deal.
I suspect you were right the first time and wrong now. But we will see.
 

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The thing about the 6B billion the price that Jassim isn't willing to pay at least as of this moment is that it is metaphysically undeniable fact that, if United is properly managed, in even just 5 seasons United will be "worth" far more than 6B.

That said, "worth" is a tricky term in this context because what something is "worth" really and only is the amount someone is willing to pay for it. The world may go to shit in 5 years -- global warming, world war, famine, that kind of thing -- and it may well be that no one would be willing to spend even say 4B for United. But if the world muddles along over the next 5-10 years as it has over the last 5-10 years, 6B for Manchester United will seem like peanuts.
Good point, and is the Glazers really asking for 6bn?

Like outlined in the FT article, you only need to buy the Glazers shares to get 100% control of the club, and they want their shares sold for a 6bn enterprise valuation.

From the FT article:


6bn minus 780m in debt x 69% = 3.588 bn
 

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Just stating the obvious but if SJR/Ineos were the preferred bidders that would have been disclosed at this stage or within the next few days. The season is over and the Glazer tribe will be back in the US, protected by the FBI from any danger.

The only reason for not confirming is that they are trying to extract every last cent.

SJ and SJR must know this but are not that gullible.

SJ knows his bid presents the most money immediately and this is borne out because he is still in the running and hasn't received the f. off sign, as yet. He is not falling for the 'we love the club and want to stay around' bollocks.

SJ's mistake was that he presented his plans in their entirety. He would pay off debt build the stadium, finance transfers buy out the NYSE sharks.

The Glazers don't give a toss about all of that, but they know he has money available to do that and they want that money for themselves. They do not care if debt is paid off or the stadium reconstructed. They have no interest beyond their own bank accounts andthey will be gone.

SJR presents the Glazers with a fall back. However unless SJ bids more the Glazers know that SJR is not going to increase his bid.

SJR's mistake is that they know he is equally desperate and will stick around for as long as necessary.

The bluffers are prancing around like they have suddenly development a passion for cup finals and accellerating the transfer rumours and will probably buy the cheapest option and continue to be linked with every transfer to maintain the charade of a deep interest.

They release information, via their sources, to entice the parties to raise their bids but the bidders are not stupid and have their own crack advisers.

This will be one of the biggest paydays/scams in business history and they are going to make sure they don't lose a dime.

A stalemate.
Ok this is the best take I’ve seen.

SJ lost when he stated what he’s willing to do after the sale.

Now he has to pay up or lose out. Bingo.
 

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This is nonsense, united's share price places its value at 3bn dollars there's already a 100% premium basically being paid, if either reaches 6bn dollars, its never going to be worth far more than that. Ratcliffe and jassim aren't buying it for an investment purpose
I wouldnt read too much into the share price of the NYSE shares.

Like we see in this process — those shares have very limited rights. You only get the protection guaranteed by the Cayman Islands Company’s Law. They have much more restricted rights than shares in a UK company would have. If someone buys shares representing more than 30% of the votes in a UK listed company, you must offer to buy all shares for at least the same price.

They have a value, because for various reasons people buy shares in MUFC. But realistically, a football club should never pay dividend. There are at least 20-30 listed clubs in Europe, don’t think anyone have paid dividends except us. If we get Glazers out — a new owner won’t take dividends whether it’s Ineos or 9-2.

This means that the NYSE shares are practically worthless, you get no dividends, they don’t have to be a part of a takeover and their voting power is of no importance. It’s more of a NFT than a real share, a symbol of something that doesn’t have financial rights.

If you want to know what MUFC is worth, the most relevant data point is the CFC sale. That club went for 2.5bn with a binding pledge to invest 1.75bn. 4.25bn in total. 1.75bn invested in our club will have a big impact.
 

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Nothing really new here. Only interesting thing was he was asked to be oncall on Friday (was it for Sky?) supposedly cause a big takeover news was meant to break but nothing really happened.
Was it Delaney who said it was expected on Friday? Probably just based off of that.
 

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Still time. There’s gonna be some kind of developments coming over the next 48 hours I strongly believe (not based on any ITK stuff!).

Maybe not an out and out announcement but something more than we have thus far.
I like the cut of your jib ! I’m in
 

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On a serious note, I think the following is clear about the take over process.

1. Anyone can gain 100% of the control of the club and 69% of the economic rights by buying all of the shares held by the Glazers.

By doing this, you gain the exact same control of the club as the Glazers has today.

The current bid from 9-2 for the Glazers shares is £2.9bn. So anyone that want to get the same control and ownership of the club as the Glazers can outbid 9-2 if they pay more than £2.9bn. In addition 9-2 pledges to invest 1bn into the club according to reports.

So in essence, from the Glazers and fans of MUFC’s point of view, 9-2’s bid for the club is slightly lower than what Boehly paid for, and pledged to invest in, Chelsea. Boehly paid 2.5bn for the club and pledged to invest 1.75bn in the club, for a total of £4.25bn. 9-2’s bid to the Glazers is £2.9bn and they pledge to invest a billion, so in total 3.9bn.

In addition, they would also seek to buy the shares listed on the NYSE for app. 1.3bn.

But overall I think it’s quite clear that 9-2 is not QSI and that this is a project they have a fairly limited budget for. The Glazers has picked an awful time to sell the club from a macro economic point of view, with interest rates sky rocketing etc. But remember that Saudi Arabia made a bid for Chelsea but didn’t even get through to the second round, just because a bidder origins for an oil state, it doesn’t mean that they have unlimited funds. It could also be that Sheik Jassim’s position took a big hit from Credit Suisse going bust. Qatar was the biggest share owner of Credit Suisse and Sheik Jassim was on CS’ board

2. Ineos bid to the Glazers is for all their shares for app. 3.5bn, ie valuing the club at close to 6bn (at the bottom line, this means 600m more for the Glazers, but they won’t get all immediately). According to information in the FT — the purchase price would be paid to the Glazers in tranches. Ie they would sell shares representing a controlling stake (more than 50% of the series B shares) in the first tranche and then the rest over the coming “years”. What is new in the FT article is that they intend to change to AoA so that others than the Glazers can own B shares. If no such change is made, the voting strong B shares would convert to A shares if sold to a non Glazer.

If Ineos comes out on top, it’s after a pretty modest bid. Remember they offered to pay just as much as Boehly for Chelsea (after the deadline), ie £2.5bn for the club and Ineos also pledged to invest £1.75bn in Chelsea’s squad and stadium. With this bid, Ineos would have to pay a little more, to get a little less (69%), of something a lot bigger MUFC. Hopefully the £1.75bn investment figure still stands, it’s a figure that should make us the club that can invest the most in our squad in the world over the coming decade.

3. The Glazers obviously seem very intrigued by 9-2 and are dragging out the negotiations with Ineos to give 9-2 time to raise their offer. The process aimed to finish in late March, and after that two “deadlines” has passed without a preferred bidder being appointed.

Will 9-2 come back with an improved offer? Like many surely will remember, I had “Qatar” as my favorite back in November/December before either of 9-2 or Ineos even had declared their interest. And while it’s hard to get full insight into how business is done in these countries, we know enough to conclude that it is perfectly possible for them to be irrational, but when they say something, they deliver (with ‘they’’, I mean Sheik Jassim, not some Twitter account with Arabic text in the bio). Before anything is done, sealed and delivered with Ineos — I wouldn’t rule anything out.

But with this said — “11.59 pm” has passed three times already in this process. We are into June 4 (possibly 5 before I hit send). If Jassim like have told Avram ‘give me a call before you close with someone else’, Avram’s phone bill to Qatar is probably pretty significant by now…

The FT article obviously came from either top of the Raine Group or one of the other central advisors. Reading between the line, they are basically ridiculing the 9-2 bid. Talking about it in terms of how “serious it is”, the “penny dropping” regarding key elements, and so forth. They obviously also feel that Ineos really is playing hard ball.

So I don’t know what to think. Anyone wanting to hold out hope for 9-2 should be able to do so — nothing is a done deal yet — but objectively, the only thing they have going for them is Avram holding off appointing Ineos the preferred bidder.

4. Given that 9-2 obviously doesn’t have unlimited resources for this project (under normal conditions, I don’t think it’s a bid that make it to the second round of bids, it’s Chelsea money for a lot bigger club in MUFC) — should we be worried that they will buy the club and then not invest enough? I doubt it. We know practically nothing for certain about either bidder, but I think both alternatives would provide sufficient resources for us to be the No 1 in the football world in terms of financial resources. Like anything else is bad business.

It does feel like many think that 9-2 is a safer bet to invest more into the club — what is the basis for that? Is there a logic in assuming that since QSI got PSG for free and then invested 2bn into the club, 9-2 will buy MUFC for 6bn and then invest 2-3bn into the club? Maybe, I don’t know. But is it a certainty? Anyone claiming that must know something I don’t.

5. I want to add one last thing, we are a long way into the process. Like we talked about above, the economic climate this spring has been a nightmare. Big banks going bust, interest rates skyrocketing, a war in the middle of Europe and tension between Russia and NATO, asset prices tanking completely — and so forth. Had the club been sold during the fall of 21’ when the stock market went crazy, there certainly would have been interest from SPACs, crypto players, and other super high net worth individuals.

Ineos and 9-2 announced their interest what, I’ve lost track of time, but like 5-6 months ago. Recession is looming. But investors are about one year ahead of reality. Even if the 6 worst months are ahead of us, it will start to look up a few months into 2024. Inflation won’t survive a recession and the world’s problem — which we are aware of today — aren’t bad enough to sink the world economy for any longer period of time.

Investor just have two modes, they are either panicking and are on suicide watch or they have blinders on and try to get their hands on as many assets as possible.

With more and more investors starting to get their head above water so to speak — I wouldn’t at all be shocked if a third bidder comes in and just swoops up the club. If so, probably an US consortium, perhaps even some Asian investors. The current bids — 2.9 and 3.45bn to the Glazers (this is of course all that matters) — just isn’t that much for a club like MUFC.
How do you know “the current bid from 9-2 for the Glazer’s shares is £2.9bn”? Nobody has a clue what’s on the table at this time.
 

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Good point, and is the Glazers really asking for 6bn?

Like outlined in the FT article, you only need to buy the Glazers shares to get 100% control of the club, and they want their shares sold for a 6bn enterprise valuation.

From the FT article:


6bn minus 780m in debt x 69% = 3.588 bn
All of us sitting on our couches or office chairs have little idea what Ratcliffe and Jassim have up their sleeve, but I see this after a quick google search inquiring into the net worth of Jassim:

What is Sheikh Jassim Bin Hamad Al Thani's net worth? Sheikh Jassim Bin Hamad Al Thani is part of the ruling royal family who have a collective net worth estimated to be at around $335billion (£275bn). The head of the royal family - Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, is estimated to be worth around $2bn (£1.6bn) alone.May 9, 2023

Regardless of whether this is a mere vanity play or a serious investment, it seems to me that if we somehow knew every fukking Glazer would happily sell their shares of the club for a total of 6B -- which I assume means including clearing the debt (which is still around 600-800m, right?) -- that such a sum is not a problem for Jassim et al to take care of without losing any sleep. The "fact" quoted above is net worth, but surely Jassim et al's annual income is in the billions, at least 2-3B annually.
 

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All of us sitting on our couches or office chairs have little idea what Ratcliffe and Jassim have up their sleeve, but I see this after a quick google search inquiring into the net worth of Jassim:

What is Sheikh Jassim Bin Hamad Al Thani's net worth? Sheikh Jassim Bin Hamad Al Thani is part of the ruling royal family who have a collective net worth estimated to be at around $335billion (£275bn). The head of the royal family - Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, is estimated to be worth around $2bn (£1.6bn) alone.May 9, 2023

Regardless of whether this is a mere vanity play or a serious investment, it seems to me that if we somehow knew every fukking Glazer would happily sell their shares of the club for a total of 6B -- which I assume means including clearing the debt (which is still around 600-800m, right?) -- that such a sum is not a problem for Jassim et al to take care of without losing any sleep. The "fact" quoted above is net worth, but surely Jassim et al's annual income is in the billions, at least 2-3B annually.
Different Jassim.
 

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I read almost everything with interest. But some theories seems a bit.. far-stretched? Couldn't it just be that simple that the Glazers are waiting and waiting to get the best possible bid? They are not sharing bed with SJR nor SJ. They are just hoping that SJ will up his bid and then SJR will up his. They have no rush. They will leave is SJ has the best bid. And they would stay with SJR a couple of years if that's the most profitable option. I suppose most people would do the same. But even if they would announce one of the bidders as the preferred one I´m not sure that´s the winner to be honest. It could just be another "play" to make the other party go higher. This is not gonna be over this summer. Also 99% of all info leaked is guesses or total BS.
 

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How do you know “the current bid from 9-2 for the Glazer’s shares is £2.9bn”? Nobody has a clue what’s on the table at this time.
Fair point, but there has been plenty of reports of how the “final improve bid” from Jassim values the club “nearer to 5 billion pounds”. That means the Glazers get 2.9bn (69 percent of 5bn minus debt). In the very unlikely event numbers discussed are not on an Enterprise Value basis, it’s 69% times 5bn =3.45bn.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/socc...nal-offer-manchester-united-times-2023-05-16/

Could Jassim have tabled an offer of 8bn say 30 minutes ago? Of course.

We also know that Ineos, according to sources that very much appear to be the Raine Group, has the highest offer (the FT article). Ineos offer is supposed to value the club at 6bn according to a wide variety of sources — which means that the Glazers get 2.6bn right now and then about 1.14bn when he buys their remaining shares in “future years”.

I see no reason to doubt these reports.
 
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They wouldn’t be saving their breaking news for a YouTube show.
Really feels as if they become United aggregators when on these shows, they’re just surmising what’s accepted as fact rather than providing any new insight.
Suppose that’s what happens when they’re paid to appear
 

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A key point which I’ve not seen any clarity on is what happens if SJR buys 51% of the club and he chooses to invest a large amount of money over the coming years, it doesn’t seem correct or rational that he spends all the money yet the other 49% of shareholders get to benefit from the upside of the rise in value of the club.

It would be interesting to know how that would work. It would be dream land for the other 49% to just sit back and see the cash come in at a later date.
 

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A key point which I’ve not seen any clarity on is what happens if SJR buys 51% of the club and he chooses to invest a large amount of money over the coming years, it doesn’t seem correct or rational that he spends all the money yet the other 49% of shareholders get to benefit from the upside of the rise in value of the club.

It would be interesting to know how that would work. It would be dream land for the other 49% to just sit back and see the cash come in at a later date.
Probably the same thing that would happen in any other business - the Glazers' stake would get diluted
 

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Ok onto the valuation which many people do not understand. The Raine Group get a huge Commission for arranging this sale and they want the highest value the club
The Glazers own 69% of the 69.5% B shares, Ed Woodward 0.05%. The other 30.5% are A shares and only have 1/10th the voting power of the B Shares.

The current share Price is $18.82 and there are 163 million shares with a market cap of $3.068bn. To gain control of the club the Glazers would like the club valued at £6bn for them to sell their controlling shares.

Forbes in May 2023 valued the club at $4.6bn with their breakdown as follows ; yearly Revenue of $663m, Debt Value at 13%, Matchday $59m, Future Broadcasting $2.1bn and Commercial Brand $1.6bn these are future revenues expected in a period of at least 20 years.

The Glazers own 113 million shares who were rumoured to be offered by the Qatar 33 dollars per share or $3.729 Bn
Plus the Glazers will also expect a premium for the current squad which is worth $950m. And future commercial deals valued at $1.6bn. Giving the Glazers a potential $6.2bn pay out minus the debt which must be paid, this does not have to be paid for in SJR bid, like I said there are pros and cons to both bids.

This is where 100% of the bid is very different from buying a controlling stake in the club and most of the fans do not understand this. SJR is not looking to pay anything like SJ to buy out the Glazers shares even though his bid is marginally higher in context only.

The real issues are simple the SJ bid of £4.8bn or $6bn does not value the squad at the value the Raine group does and rightly so because most of the squad have future amortised payments before the club owns them outright.

They have to pay the debt of $1bn before they can pay out the Glazers which is why SJ and the Qatar 92 foundation can not believe how the Raine Group and the Glazers keep moving the goal posts, there is only one 100% bid on the table which values Squad and loss of future commercial value.

I hope this now makes sense to a lot of people, my gut is they want the Qataris to make a final bid of about $38 per share which would be premium earn out sale value of = $4.294 billion which would be another £455m or $565m. This would mean that the SJ would pay $6.6bn- $1bn debt so the Glazers would receive $5.6bn to take control of the club and then have to offer the remaining 30.5% of which the Glazers own 4.3% at least $30 per share to delist from the NYSE. Therefore SJ would have to pay another $200m to the Glazers and $1.3bn to the remaining share holders.

Perspective after Qatar has paid the debt of $1bn and not even invested $1 into the club it would cost them a further $7bn (£5.7.bn) to own 100%, SJR does not have this cash available so he’s looking to broker a completely different deal.

There have been so many misconceptions to what the Glazers actually get but they simply answer is they got a lot more now for 100% buy out.
Why do people keep making numbers up. Nobody has a clue as to what’s been tabled. Whatever the numbers are, they still don’t seem enough for the Glazer’s - that’s about all we know
 

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A key point which I’ve not seen any clarity on is what happens if SJR buys 51% of the club and he chooses to invest a large amount of money over the coming years, it doesn’t seem correct or rational that he spends all the money yet the other 49% of shareholders get to benefit from the upside of the rise in value of the club.

It would be interesting to know how that would work. It would be dream land for the other 49% to just sit back and see the cash come in at a later date.
As far as I understand it that’s exactly what would happen. Ratcliffe would be de facto owner as the majority, so with his control he would invest as he sees fit. Minority shareholders (including Glazers) would benefit from any increase in the stock. That’s just the nature of the stock market, and it’s why you would invest in the first place.
 

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Why do people keep making numbers up. Nobody has a clue as to what’s been tabled. Whatever the numbers are, they still don’t seem enough for the Glazer’s - that’s about all we know
It’s not ‘made up’ it’s ball park estimates based on what’s reported. That’s best we have to work with at this time.
 

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Probably the same thing that would happen in any other business - the Glazers' stake would get diluted
Why would the Glazers shares get diluted? There would be no need to increase the number of shares in the club when money is being invested into the club by Ratcliffe.
 
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Fair point, but there has been plenty of reports of how the “final improve bid” from Jassim values the club “nearer to 5 billion pounds”. That means the Glazers get 2.9bn (69 percent of 5bn minus debt). In the very unlikely event numbers discussed are not on an Enterprise Value basis, it’s 69% times 5bn =3.45bn.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/socc...nal-offer-manchester-united-times-2023-05-16/

Could Jassim have tabled an offer of 8bn say 30 minutes ago? Of course.

We also know that Ineos, according to sources that very much appear to be the Raine Group, has the highest offer (the FT article). Ineos offer is supposed to value the club at 6bn according to a wide variety of sources — which means that the Glazers get 2.6bn right now and then about 1.14bn when he buys their remaining shares in “future years”.

I see no reason to doubt these reports.
You are assuming all of this without considering Squad value as an asset this and future commercial and merchandising deals, please look at the recent Forbes valuation in May 2023, the Glazer will get more than 69% shares at $30-34 they currently have control of the club and therefore own the short term and mid term assets and want a premium payment to relinquish control of this.

I have included the link and this what Raine Group are using for Full valuation they believe that the Club is worth even more than this to own the club outright, they think $7.5bn
Why do people keep making numbers up. Nobody has a clue as to what’s been tabled. Whatever the numbers are, they still don’t seem enough for the Glazer’s - that’s about all we know
Please read this and it will help a lot with structured Offers ok this is. Not made up it’s what the Glazers want and more, there has to be an offer made to the Glazers to cede control of future merchandising and commercial revenue this is what so many people are miscalculating, especially in a full valuation and full 100% takeover.

What people think the Glazers are just going to walk away from futures potential commercial and merchandising revenue because someone give you $31-33 per Class B Shares, this is why it’s taking so long they are asking the two bidders to make it worth their while to walk away from a future which they think will grow exponentially in commercial and merchandising revenue.


Say Apple Release a new Apple Augmented VR glasses which you can have a united membership for every game live for £30 per year in the future and Apple Pay the Club a fortune by doing a deal with the EPL for a £2bn annual PL for 20 Teams. These are the sort of crazy ideas the Glazers are telling the prospective bidders!

https://www.forbes.com/teams/manchester-united/?sh=3e6a080d13f9
 
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As far as I understand it that’s exactly what would happen. Ratcliffe would be de facto owner as the majority, so with his control he would invest as he sees fit. Minority shareholders (including Glazers) would benefit from any increase in the stock. That’s just the nature of the stock market, and it’s why you would invest in the first place.
Sorry mate, have to disagree here. If the majority shareholder want’s to invest, then the minority shareholders need to chip in pro-rata, or sell up
 
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