Club Sale | It’s done!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Beckham did just sign Messi
Whoever wins shouldn’t be given a heros or villains welcome. Let time decide if they are worthy custodians of Man Utd and deserve our praises or condemnation. But feck Ratcliffe and his debt laden, no commitment to anything, keeping the glazers in , bid.
Appreciate that this may have been asked and answered before, but has the INEOS bid promised to clear the debt?
Don't think so
No.
I think SJR will be a good match with us to be honest. I would not panic too much about Nice. Manchester United is huge and we can get the best people in the football world to work with us.
Anyway, it is not done yet, will probably be some twists and turns yet.
Whoever wins will be hated by most United fans within 2 or 3 years. At United it was ever thus.
Nope. They have promised not to put any new debt on to the club.
Come on, one party wants the club. The other lot have taken Redcafe United fans for a ride. But what a ride.
Qatar wants to own United so badly that they aren't willing to negotiate a deal that actually gets them the control of a club from owners who only care about who gives more money is hilarious. Even ignoring all else - it was literally a purely financial race, and this supposed sugar daddy state can't even afford to pay up? But yet are promising all this money on infrastructure and squad? feck off 
Empty promises to win fans over without needing to back it up, that's what that is.
Empty promises to win fans over without needing to back it up, that's what that is.My favourite moral high ground is the one with the weird hypothetical fantasy future where everything has already gone disastrously wrong but the only people who truly cared enough about Man Utd get to lord it over the people who were really responsible for the heroic Qatar bid being too arrogant/incompetent to even attempt a deal beyond their own convenience - evil other fans!!
there were rumours last week of insiders feeling Jassim and co weren't seriously interested.Qatar wants to own United so badly that they aren't willing to negotiate a deal that actually gets them the control of a club from owners who only care about who gives more money is hilarious. Even ignoring all else - it was literally a purely financial race, and this supposed sugar daddy state can't even afford to pay up? But yet are promising all this money on infrastructure and squad? feck off
Thanks. I always look forward to your posts in this thread - you're one of the few posters here who actually contributes to the discussion instead of endlessly whining about the same thing.
Yes, it's not gone very well for them. They will probably want to forget the whole sorry affair asap - I doubt we'll ever hear anything from, or about, Jassim ever again...Qatar wants to own United so badly that they aren't willing to negotiate a deal that actually gets them the control of a club from owners who only care about who gives more money is hilarious. Even ignoring all else - it was literally a purely financial race, and this supposed sugar daddy state can't even afford to pay up? But yet are promising all this money on infrastructure and squad? feck off
Well this is dragging on isn't it? 
It’s funny isn’t it.
Is this new Qatari bid just going to delay things even further now or can we expect some form of news soon as to who the preferred bidder is?
A month or two ago, I would have been intrigued with this new bid but now not really bothered if it succeeds or not as just want this never ending circus to end. Don’t really care if it’s Qatar or INEOS that wins, just as long as we get this thing over and down with.
A month or two ago, I would have been intrigued with this new bid but now not really bothered if it succeeds or not as just want this never ending circus to end. Don’t really care if it’s Qatar or INEOS that wins, just as long as we get this thing over and down with.
Only one of his potential appointments which interests
Everything doesn't need to go disastrously wrong for us not to win feck all of consequence in the next 10/15 years. It just needs to continue on the current trajectory.
You're purposefully ignoring reality and trying to paint reasonable assumptions as unreasonable, just like the Brexit gurus did during that joke of a referendum.
But carry on with the half-arsed responses, I'm sure it helps you sleep at night.
Look, here's £6b. Take it and feck off. Hardly difficult for Qatar, assuming it's a state bid. They've been lowballing Ratcliffe, and it has been utterly bizarre from the perspective of a person stuck in this thread.
I would feel exactly the same about not bothered who wins out of Ratcliffe or Jassim IF those two leeches weren't involved
Nobody really knows anything for certain, but the sense is that Ineos and Raine have at least got it on to the fairway at this point and are closing in on a deal. Qatar are making lots of noise and achieving very little.
Even if he isn't state backed, I'm sure he would have some influence to make thing happen or at least open potential dooe for the Glazers that would otherwise be more difficult. Even if he isn't state back I'm sure the state would probably be open to helping things out. It would also depend on what you mean by state backed. At the very minimum you'd imagine that the state support his bid and are happy to help out, even if the state is making a financial backing.
They need to try and get exclusivity which opens the opportunity to negotiate and reach that figure. Like I said earlier they can then talk about business opportunities in Qatar
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At worst, were actually close to the endgame now. Qatar will bow out on Friday and then with one bidder left, it should move faster.
Plus the extra 1B for the stadium, 700m to clear the debt and then a further 1B in transfers etc? nobody is paying close to 9B mate it's completely unrealistic
Glazers have priced the club out of the market its only because saggy bollocks has given them a stay option at 50% that anything is happening
“Qatar don’t want to pay above value”. Another angle. These are people who routinely pay ridiculous money for stuff. If Qatar really wanted to buy this club, this shi would have been wrapped up months ago.
That would do it. Qatar's 4th bid and this new 5th bid are a waste of time.
What the feck are you even on about??
These asinine proclamations regarding sums of money that have actually never been spent before in professional sports history worldwide are absolutely mental.
If it was all so simple the Glazers would've had more interested buyers, the fact of the matter is not many even amongst the uber wealthy elite in the world can afford or have the will to spend unprecedented money on a football club.
People seem to believe that this is all as easy and straight forward as investing into their local fast food franchise ffs
I dont think the exclusivity stage is where you talk about the final offer.
The winning offer is the one that goes into negotiations of other detail. It's like buying a house, the best offer is accepted and the price is locked. From there they bring in lawyers and wrap it up with final details.
Their £5bn bid includes paying off the debt.
Have you tried bidding more than the other guy, Jassim? No? Well there's your problem.
The way I see it, and I could be wrong of course, it seems that this financial offer is made in order not to lose face.
I wouldn't be surprised if we learn very soon that SJR is the preferred buyer.
If not, the media does not have a particularly good overview of what is happening, which is also entirely possible.
Sorry, I must have missed the part where we all got to vote on this?
Though I do like the bit where there’s a declarative very good and very bad outcome here, but that the people who think that aren’t the ones taking a moral high ground.
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Even if he isn't state backed, I'm sure he would have some influence to make thing happen or at least open potential dooe for the Glazers that would otherwise be more difficult. Even if he isn't state back I'm sure the state would probably be open to helping things out. It would also depend on what you mean by state backed. At the very minimum you'd imagine that the state support his bid and are happy to help out, even if the state is making a financial backing.
Hardly rocket science innit.
What the feck can they do if the Glazers want to stay on?Qatar wants to own United so badly that they aren't willing to negotiate a deal that actually gets them the control of a club from owners who only care about who gives more money is hilarious. Even ignoring all else - it was literally a purely financial race, and this supposed sugar daddy state can't even afford to pay up? But yet are promising all this money on infrastructure and squad? feck off
Even if Qatar offer more I guarantee the dickheads would be thinking if we keep some shares we’ll cash out big within the next 10/20 years.
How do we know Jim isn’t just buying us to flip us in a few years to oil money anyway? Get a stadium built on credit that oil country would pay off anyway because that’s what they seemingly want to do so then you have a nice, brand spanking new stadium to up the price, free of charge.
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