Indeed. It is rather odd. Qatar's 3rd, 4th and 5th bids all offer the Glazers less money per share than the 3rd Ineos bid. Perhaps they never really wanted the club as much as they claimed.
Yes, and is 200m in the premier league far more than their rivals?
If they go up too much too soon then the Glazers would just want more.
Pretty sure it did in earlier reports. But if you're right, then no stadium then.
Why wouldn't he? It's usually what new owners do, they address the fans and lay out the plans... Utterly pointless doing it before.No he won't
Where has there been anything at all published that would lead us to believe this? This hasn't even been the case even at Nice
No they’ve literally said they plan to invest in the stadium. The investment pledge is just separate from that
This makes real sense.
Has anyone in the British media apart from Keegan actually talked up Jassim's chances
Ultimately it doesn’t matter if he’s offered what is generally accepted as a fair price, because there is no such thing as a fair price when the commodity is a football club. The football club is worth what the current owners say it’s worth, that’s the beginning and the end of that. You have to offer something they deem acceptable or you won’t win, that’s all it is.
Yep. This has been covered numerous times, but if Ineos offer the Glazers £3bn for their shares and Qatar offer £2.999bn + £500bn investment into Manchester, the Glazers will take the Ineos offer every time.
There's obviously something wrong within the structure at Nice which is what their fans and the team's captain have been critical of at the end of the season.
Well yeah but that’s not how the bids are actually structured. That’s just a weird simplification
Hasn't it always with them.
Of course it is! They made a good appointment for manager and made signings they would have no hope to complete otherwise for a relegation candidate club.They also got lucky with a couple signings/factors. They also seemingly started things off smartly there, something Qatar has not done with PSG. I don't know why people assume that Qatar will be smart with us because Saudi or Abu Dhabi have been smart at the PL clubs. It's different people. The only evidence of Qatar is a fecking shit show.
Whats wrong with a pledge?
If Woody led the bid they would have seen the Glazers price at £6 billion and sent in a bid for 10 billion
Qatar being a shitshow is hyperbole. They’ve achieved lots of domestic success but have failed in Europe. City have shown in Europe that even with the greatest strategy it doesn’t mean anything.
Yes, but now that strategy has likely cost them the club. The time to make a proper offer to put Ineos in the mud was the 3rd round bid on 28th April - it looks like Qatar lost control of the process at that point, with Ineos effectively being the preferred bidder ever since.
It would be nice to have some actual clarity on this by Friday then.
I think people would rather have owners who did what they've done at psg (but adjusted for the Premier league, so easier to attract players, less of a need to pay a premium) than Jim replicating what he's done at nice. Forest spent 140m in one summer after promotion, so no 200m over the January and summer windows wasn't actually an outrageous amount
Nothing is won or lost at the moment.
There's nothing wrong with a pledge to spend money on the club - to the fans. But the Glazers won't give two shits about it will they, so you can pledge all you want but why would the Glazers care?
This wouldn't make sense if SJR doesn't go higher.
INEOS offering very little more, but over 3 years. SJ is offering to pay everything now.
That's fair - but I'm of the opinion that United as a club does not need a whole lot to run us well. Just don't be dumb. The Glazers are horrible and very dumb owners, apart from the point buying a goldmine and refusing to budge while it appreciated in value. They need to leave as they are horrible for the club, or at the very least, not be in control.
We don't know, is my point. With SJ we do know he's only pledged £800m.
Talk about obvious misconception.
What has Ratcliffe pledged or said in any way about investing?
Shh, these are the good guys we need to win
Shit show off the pitch in how they deal with transfers and contracts, the Mbappe farce, their owner constantly having fits of rage, constantly changing managers and making pointless signings, not even showing complete dominance domestically which is pretty bad given just how superior they are financially to the rest. That football club represents Qatar. I don't want United to be about all things Qatar.
