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My money is on this, I dont see anything happening with this sale for a while. The offers have been on the table for months now, the Glazers still with 0 idea what they want to do.

One day its stay, another day sell and then minority investment.

They are a shambles, the only way this gets resolved is if Ten Hag gets fed up and says, I cant deal with this, I am not going into pre season without knowing what happens and quits. Other than that, I can see this dragging on for months
Now that is exactly what he should threaten
 

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The Ineos bid really isn't as bad as people are making out in terms of getting into bed with the Glazers.

It's forces the Glazers out on 3 years.

Basically means Ineos get control now but don't have to pay as much this minute. Potentially means more money for investment.
Gets rid of them eventually which is the main thing. Would be nice if they can get it resolved one way or another so the club doesn't having it hanging over them into the new season.
 

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My money is on this, I dont see anything happening with this sale for a while. The offers have been on the table for months now, the Glazers still with 0 idea what they want to do.

One day its stay, another day sell and then minority investment.

They are a shambles, the only way this gets resolved is if Ten Hag gets fed up and says, I cant deal with this, I am not going into pre season without knowing what happens and quits. Other than that, I can see this dragging on for months
You make it sounds like the leeches actually care about the manager. :lol:
 

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You make it sounds like the leeches actually care about the manager. :lol:
No obviously they dont, what could happen though is alot of fans get angry and there will be pressure on Glazers again. I know we still protest but if the manager comes calling the club out, it will be rock bottom and that 5bn figure they have now will quickly turn into 3bn.
 

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Well its not on track, the process was supposed to be finalised by Easter, then by end of season. So there is a reason for the delay and if they had chosen SJR to move forward with then that would have been announced as the preferred bidder (tiers 1s report there is no preferred bidder)

The delay is clearly on Glazer end here
The reason for the delay is because they have multiple bids from SJR with different structures and that requires consideration along side Jassims and minority investment.

However for the nth time, they were in final stages of negotiation with SJR so we can safely assume minority investment is ruled out.
 

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One worrying aspect is if the Glazers back out of the deal, due to SJR’s intention of re-listing the club on the London Stock Exchange.
This would obviously mean the rats would have to pay capital gains tax on their shares, which they currently don’t with the current arrangement.
I think it's reasons like this why negotiations will be tougher with Ineos, and why they will need to pay more. I still think the fact a couple of Glazers have Class A shares should be noted too. Ineos aren't offering to buy them as far as we know, whereas Jassim is, and at a premium

Off topic: Is "The Italian Way" still open in Hastings? I last went there in about 2018 and really enjoyed it
 

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No obviously they dont, what could happen though is alot of fans get angry and there will be pressure on Glazers again. I know we still protest but if the manager comes calling the club out, it will be rock bottom and that 5bn figure they have now will quickly turn into 3bn.
Fans have been angry for years now without any effects on the Glazers.
 

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@Berbaclass is here day & night, 7 days a week. I actually thought they might be a bot? But it's a real person?

As for the takeover, I'm excited and cautiously anxious. I think too many people are trying to predict things that will happen and make them fact when in truth, none of us have a clue what will unfold and that includes the clueless British media. Let it play out, enjoy the sun, and look forward to next season because we have one of the best managers around and possibly will have new owners by the summer.
 

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3 more years of glazers with ratcliffe bid or qatar bid which means potentially in 3 years work has already begun on expanding OT, improving the training ground and our ability to fight for the very best players has drastically improved as we have no debt.

No brainer.

Anyone who keeps the glazers on should never been accepted.
 

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PSG’s financial advantage/gap to all the other League 1 clubs is much bigger than even City’s to the other PL clubs. No one in League 1 can even get close to PSG’s spending/transfers/wages.
Put PSG with the same squads and performances over the last 10 years in the PL and I doubt they would have won a single league title. They are run terribly.
I heard one of the clubs in France are owned by INEOS which is a 60bn pound chemical company and apparently has the resources to easily take Manchester United back to the top, so I assume given ineos' resources compared to the rest of France they must be the second best side in the league?
 

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3 more years of glazers with ratcliffe bid or qatar bid which means potentially in 3 years work has already begun on expanding OT, improving the training ground and our ability to fight for the very best players has drastically improved as we have no debt.

No brainer.

Anyone who keeps the glazers on should never been accepted.
Then buckle up and keep them here forever.

This is their house, if they don't wanna go nobody can force them and if you can't wrap your head around how INEOS has planned this out then more fool you.

Acting as though it's 3 more years of Glazers at the helm is ridiculous, it's obviously just 3 year of them sat with minority shares, you'll never see them, hear of them or know they're even on the board anymore as they will be minority, nothing more.
 

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I heard one of the clubs in France are owned by INEOS which is a 60bn pound chemical company and apparently has the resources to easily take Manchester United back to the top, so I assume given ineos' resources compared to the rest of France they must be the second best side in the league?
Yeah they are way down the league which says it all about how dreadfully they are run
 

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Then buckle up and keep them here forever.

This is their house, if they don't wanna go nobody can force them and if you can't wrap your head around how INEOS has planned this out then more fool you.
The celebration of them leaving is gonna be delayed by another 3 years most likely
 

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I heard one of the clubs in France are owned by INEOS which is a 60bn pound chemical company and apparently has the resources to easily take Manchester United back to the top, so I assume given ineos' resources compared to the rest of France they must be the second best side in the league?
Yeah sure, that’s how it works. I must have completely missed the nation/state INEOS paying silly money (understatement) for Neymar, Mbappe and Co and still achieving feck all relatively speaking.
 

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I heard one of the clubs in France are owned by INEOS which is a 60bn pound chemical company and apparently has the resources to easily take Manchester United back to the top, so I assume given ineos' resources compared to the rest of France they must be the second best side in the league?
Resources was never the issue, please consider supporting PSG or City instead :lol:
 

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The celebration of them leaving is gonna be delayed by another 3 years most likely
I'll celebrate day one because as I edited in above, they're just house squatting after that day with no say, no input, no nothing.

They won't even be a footnote.
 

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I'm really struggling to grasp why the Glazers would take a fixed price 3 years from now instead of money now. If its a fixed price then he club increasing in value won't have any benefit to them. If its not a fixed price then they'll lose the massive premium being given just now
 

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I'll celebrate day one because as I edited in above, they're just house squatting after that day with no say, no input, no nothing.

They won't even be a footnote.
Why are all the Ratcliffe fans so certain they will have no input whatsoever. Surely you don't honestly believe they remain silent
 

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I'm really struggling to grasp why the Glazers would take a fixed price 3 years from now instead of money now. If its a fixed price then he club increasing in value won't have any benefit to them. If its not a fixed price then they'll lose the massive premium being given just now
Because it means they get more money
 

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The Ineos bid really isn't as bad as people are making out in terms of getting into bed with the Glazers.

It's forces the Glazers out on 3 years.

Basically means Ineos get control now but don't have to pay as much this minute. Potentially means more money for investment.
Why would the Glazers bother sticking around for 3 years waiting for a final payout from Radcliffe, when they can easily take a huge lump sum right now? Something stinks about the Jim Radcliffe deal and I think people might be in for a rude awakening if they think the Glazers plan on just walking away in 2026.
 

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Resources was never the issue, please consider supporting PSG or City instead :lol:
Yeah resources isn't the issue, we definitely don't need hundreds of millions for a new striker, new midfielder, new goalkeeper, new full backs etc.

I hate this attitude, if you want the club to be successful or spend money you should support a different side
 

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Not a fan of Ratcliffe but even if they have a say, it won't matter if they don't have majority control.
Well least we MIGHT do transfers quicker from next summer,will be too late to see an effect this one or January 2024
 

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How will they get more money if Jim is buying the shares at the same price in 3 years?
I don't get it either but they see overall offer is more than Jassim's so that's why,along with the fact it means they can stay on leeching off us
 

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I'm really struggling to grasp why the Glazers would take a fixed price 3 years from now instead of money now. If its a fixed price then he club increasing in value won't have any benefit to them. If its not a fixed price then they'll lose the massive premium being given just now
It is refreshing to see a comment that understands this piece. If the media reports are correct in characterizing Jimmy Rat's sell down as options, the price is predetermined.

If that is correct, the only reason I could envision for them wanting to stay on would be a big enough discrepancy between the Qatari bid and Jimmy Rat's, possibly combined with a certain degree of influence in the club (although nothing constituting control, obviously).
 

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The Ineos bid really isn't as bad as people are making out in terms of getting into bed with the Glazers.

It's forces the Glazers out on 3 years.

Basically means Ineos get control now but don't have to pay as much this minute. Potentially means more money for investment.
Nobody actually gives a shit about the Glazers, they'll get their ill-gotten profits one way or the other, but it's something you can your hat on that sounds better than pure, no-matter-the-consiquence greed.
 
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