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Having seen the Harris tweet he does say he is joking in a reply to someone. Though it's still a possibility and would explain a few things, particularly the lack of news recently.
I am praying with my entire being this is BS
 

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I am praying with my entire being this is BS
If that was true and it could be as nothing would surprise me with regard to the Glazers, the shares would have plummeted out of site today, there were rumours in the press that SJR was not out of the reckoning today after discrediting him all week, one sniff of market thinking there was a 180 degree turn around the shares would crash even if SJR offered £5.5bn for 100% of the club and also looked to take the club private ?
 

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Having seen the Harris tweet he does say he is joking in a reply to someone. Though it's still a possibility and would explain a few things, particularly the lack of news recently.
He also said they, INEOS think maybe something untoward might be happening too in other words they are going through the motions while another bidder is about to win, like I said nothing would surprise me with regard to United ownership, even SJR finding another £2.5/3bn and buying 80% of the club that means all minority shares and he keeps just Joel and Avram has his partners!
 

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Some noise that there will be an announcement tomorrow but it will probably come to nothing as usual.

“We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!”
 

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Bloomberg and Reuters both reported that the Qatari bid was viewed more favourably by the Glazers. The Bloomberg reporter stated in his interview on United View that sources from within the club (as opposed to within the Qatari camp) told him the INEOS bid is dead, unless they can pony up for a 100% buyout.
He also said that the qatari bids it's only $5B not £5B which is far lower than the expectation from glazers. I don't see this can go thru if the final bid is only $5B
 

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Surprised this thread is so long based on so little genuine info. I thought the 'sources' some post in the transfer threads were bad enough.
Some of our fans are like a dog chasing their own tail when it comes to this takeover.
 

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They probably think Sep 1st being the transfer deadline applies to this sale and hence are taking their time. cnuts
 

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I have to hand it to SJ and SJR for being patient enough to deal with such bad faith negotiators for what is now several months when many of those who are not even a part of it like us have been driven up a wall.
 

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If SJR is the only offer it's a lot easier to justify to a court than if Qatar is the alternative. If they postpone the sale I would say that's SJR in the driving seat. Qatar will either have to go up to $6b and stand revealed as playboys not business people or else go buy Liverpool instead.
But if SJR is the only offer because the glazer’s dithering resulted in the other, preferred (for class A holders), offer being withdrawn, then surely they will be attempted to be held liable for not acting in the minority shareholders’ best interests.
 

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I'm pretty sure the Daniel Harris thing was a pisstake.
He said the third person "Daniel Harris understands" thing he tweeted before was a piss take but his actual news wasn't, he's not overly reliable though but:

 

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He said the third person "Daniel Harris understands" thing he tweeted before was a piss take but his actual news wasn't, he's not overly reliable though but:


Pretty sure he's literally the only person saying that INEOS believe they've won
 

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So yesterday our boy from Qatar posted this:


I was surprised that none of the muppets posted it so I though to share this material with you.

Today is the day :drool:
This guy posting about it makes it even less credible, if that's even possible. :lol:
 

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So yesterday our boy from Qatar posted this:


I was surprised that none of the muppets posted it so I though to share this material with you.

Today is the day :drool:
Not a huge suprise considering he is banned from the thread
 

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Bloomberg and Reuters both reported that the Qatari bid was viewed more favourably by the Glazers. The Bloomberg reporter stated in his interview on United View that sources from within the club (as opposed to within the Qatari camp) told him the INEOS bid is dead, unless they can pony up for a 100% buyout.
It becomes a much of a muchness if the journalist from bloomberg is citing the side of his source and the driver for the article.

It's a bit like Ornstein giving context on a podcast but not actually going into that side in his article. It doesn't make his podcast context any less valid.
Yeah he's just fleshing his story out on a platform with less scrutiny as opposed to reporting it under Bloomberg. I don't know some of you guys are very protective of any snippet of news on this and fair enough. But honestly I'm just not seeing how any of what's been reported by Reuters and Bloomberg is earth shattering news.

Reuters - Qatar are negotiating with the hope to get exclusivity (obvious) and the Glazers possibly favour Qatar (you would assume so given the first part and Qatar's money).

Bloomberg - Qatar are confident their bid will win (you would assume they would be), the Glazers possibly favour Qatar (well yeah) and the Ratcliffe bid is possibly dead (again yeah ok).

If this was a transfer saga this is the sort of stuff you hear about regularly. ''United are negotiating with club X and player Y favours United.'' ''United are confident their bid for player Y will be successful, rival club also interested but their bid may be dead due to XYZ.''

Maybe I've been jaded by too many transfer windows. I've also been fairly sure from the start that Qatar would win and that Ratcliffe would eventually be priced out (plus I believe the Glazers have only been using him to hike the price). That and I'm not particularly excited by this whole process or either of the prospective buyers, my main interest in this is just seeing the Glazers finally feck off.
 

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So yesterday our boy from Qatar posted this:


I was surprised that none of the muppets posted it so I though to share this material with you.

Today is the day :drool:
Please stop posting that clowns nonsense.
 

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Reuters reported that Qatar were negotiating with the Glazers.

Bloomberg reported that Qatar were confident.

Which reports are you referring to?
Reuters claimed Qatar were now favourites over Jim when all the news at the time was Qatar didn’t bid enough and Jim winning seemed to be a matter of time.
When the story about the class A shareholders threatening litigation first broke it was laughed at on here, Bloomberg confirmed it and from that the reporter has stated Jim’s bid is dead in the water.
 

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Pretty sure he's literally the only person saying that INEOS believe they've won
Nope, The Times also reported Ineos feeling confident but was laughed off as obvious PR.

For the record, two weeks some news surfaced about Ratcliffe meeting with Raine in New York, but that was during the whole stock thing and the 92 Foundation Ltd being registered, so it was largely ignored.
 

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So yesterday our boy from Qatar posted this:


I was surprised that none of the muppets posted it so I though to share this material with you.

Today is the day :drool:
Dont listen to the fool.


 

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So yesterday our boy from Qatar posted this:

I was surprised that none of the muppets posted it so I though to share this material with you.

Today is the day :drool:
No this guy he knows feck all even hated in the middle east for spreading misinformation :lol:
 

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Dont listen to the fool.


To be fair, and I’m only saying this to be fair, reports have said Qatar doesn’t know why it hasn’t been announced yet.
 

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So yesterday our boy from Qatar posted this:


I was surprised that none of the muppets posted it so I though to share this material with you.

Today is the day :drool:
I'd like to think Rio doesn't even know this horrid cretin exists.
 

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He said the third person "Daniel Harris understands" thing he tweeted before was a piss take but his actual news wasn't, he's not overly reliable though but:

They. Are. Worried :lol:

Nah, there's probably some other explanation which I am sure various reporters and twitter clowns will share with us, each more or less believable than the one before, depending on how far down the rabbit hole you are at this stage.
 

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Reuters claimed Qatar were now favourites over Jim when all the news at the time was Qatar didn’t bid enough and Jim winning seemed to be a matter of time.
I never believed any of that personally.

When the story about the class A shareholders threatening litigation first broke it was laughed at on here, Bloomberg confirmed it
So if Bloomberg confirmed it who originally reported it?

and from that the reporter has stated Jim’s bid is dead in the water.
That wasn't on Bloomberg though. A guy said on a YouTube channel, that from what he's heard Jim's bid could be dead.

As I've said a few posts up I'm just not seeing the earth shattering exclusives some of you guys are.
 

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I never believed any of that personally.



So if Bloomberg confirmed it who originally reported it?



That wasn't on Bloomberg though. A guy said on a YouTube channel, that from what he's heard Jim's bid could be dead.

As I've said a few posts up I'm just not seeing the earth shattering exclusives some of you guys are.
It’s still the same reporter? There’s no difference in going on a podcast or tweeting out which is never questioned. He’s basing dead in the water in the class A story which he did include in the article.
I’m not sure who reported the class A shares story but it was everywhere at the time and was laughed at by mostly everyone as well.
 

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As I've said a few posts up I'm just not seeing the earth shattering exclusives some of you guys are.
Because there aren’t any. Both the Reuters and Bloomberg articles literally stated within them that the Glazers could still stay or Ratcliffe could still win. The only earth shattering content was that Ratcliffe had pulled out - but that was said on a fan channel and not in the Bloomberg article which tells you everything you need to know about how well sourced that information was.
 

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I have a strong feeling that it will be announced within the next few days. Because there's a simple reason as to why the Glazers have not announced it yet -

We forget that they are money hungry *****es. Given that the financial year has ended, and we seem to have done reasonably well - they are looking to pocket their own dividends as shareholders. This is definitely in the low 8-figure mark if we go by previous years. They will ensure that the money goes into their pockets first, and then approve the takeover. They're not going to give up on the cash so easily.

They don't care about the club, or the transfer window, or the fans. Its only money.
 

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To be fair, and I’m only saying this to be fair, reports have said Qatar doesn’t know why it hasn’t been announced yet.
We all know why. The glazers are clearly experimenting, albeit scientifically on how much blood you can actually squeeze out of a rock.
 

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Really seems that the longer this goes on without any kind of real news, the more likely the Glazers are staying. I can't imagine buyers just waiting forever and sellers just leaving them completely in the dark. Eventually someone will pull out and I do wonder if that's what the Glazers are hoping for. They get to stay by default and it's 'out of their hands' because the buyers pulled out. Oh well, guess we'll continue to milk the club then lolz!
 
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