stevoc
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Don't do that, don't give them false hope.Today is possibly the day that something might happen
Don't do that, don't give them false hope.Today is possibly the day that something might happen
Is anyone ok? All things consideredYou ok? You having a stroke?
Yeah definitely feels like a splitPersonally think that’s the case but there’s a chance there’s a board split so it might not be what they can afford but pure stubbornness.
I can’t believe Jim hasn’t come back with a different offer when the offer now means it’s impossible to be successful.
It’s a cluster feck from both Glazers and Jim
This is such a daft argument.They've put feck all into the club and in 15 years have generated a £6bn profit. This idea they're dumb businessmen is such an ironic argument
Will be underwhelmed if he beats Jassim,just can't allow myself to believe that Qatar are gonna lose to him. The humiliation amongst the middle east states would be enormous.With the threat of legal action in the background and the general complexity of the deal proposed by Ratcliffe it’s going to take time to work it all through and get a structure that all parties are satisfied with. Could take months or even longer but I think it will happen eventually. Ratcliffe will take overall control of the club and, eventually, the Glazers will be phased out altogether but we will need to be very patient.
Personal profit wise, they've very definitely maximised their money from us.They’re also feckwits that have failed to maximise their prize asset to the point where they’re now forced to publicly seek outside investment.
And let’s not forget the minority investor possibility with them staying on…
I want to believe that but Ratcliffe's bid just won't seem to ever go away so worriedNah, the Qataris are going to win and they’ll be out on their ear. There’s too much money on the table and they’re liable if they don’t take the 100% sale.
Well if so, that’s their Dad’s plan, not their’s.Now I'll preface this by saying I agree they're incompetent feckwits who've failed to run this club at all well. But on the same token as scummy as it is I think what's happening currently was Daddy Malcolm's plan from the start. Put nothing in, get the club to pay for itself, run it into the ground through neglect while bleeding it dry of every penny possible then sell when that is no longer sustainable for as much as possible.
Your argument seems to be distancing Malcolm Glazer from the rest of the family, whereas most of us treat the Glazers as one entity.This is such a daft argument.
They have inherited an asset and have run it into the ground to the point they’re likely forced to sell it.
If they’d simply ran the club in just a competent manner, it’d be worth FAR more for them.
They’ve just inherited Utd’s worth. And clearly, regarding football business at least, they’re complete feckwits.
Of course as I said it was their Dad's plan they're all idiots.Well if so, that’s their Dad’s plan, not their’s.
And again, if they’d just run it competently it’d be worth a lot more.
They’ve cost themselves a far greater inheritance by making an endless precession of comically idiotic decisions.
Nah you’re alright.My kingdom for a shite rumour from @qatarfc
Doesn’t mean a thing. Stock prices fluctuates every day and has done for years.Oddly despite no news the stock price remained but past 48 hours it's dropping quite a bit now, a sign of anything other than losing faith in the confidence of the Qatar bid winning?
Maybe because they are actually doing - nothingyou have to be amazed at how well this process is locked down.
Literally zero information on one of the biggest sporting sales in history. Not a fecking dickie bird!
Impressive in this day and age.
Where has this narrative come from? They don't have pressure to sell for financial reasonsThey’re also feckwits that have failed to maximise their prize asset to the point where they’re now forced to publicly seek outside investment.
And let’s not forget the minority investor possibility with them staying on…
Especially keeping 2 parties interested and them saying/leaking nothing is incredibly impressive.you have to be amazed at how well this process is locked down.
Literally zero information on one of the biggest sporting sales in history. Not a fecking dickie bird!
Impressive in this day and age.
They do though. The club's been running large losses, debt levels have been increasing, interest rates are rising, and other macroeconomic indicators are not good.Where has this narrative come from? They don't have pressure to sell for financial reasons
They definitely do. The business model they have in place is haemorrhaging money at a time when they desperately need to invest in infrastructure including Old Trafford and Carrington. Their business model is built on debt at a time when debt is becoming prohibitively expensive.Where has this narrative come from? They don't have pressure to sell for financial reasons
The statement they put out 22nd Nov 2022, to kick-start the process, basically says they need money - either from minority investment or full sale. They subsequently initiated a tender process for the sale of the club. Given they are not prepared to put any of their own money back in, their current position is untenable without additional funding. Major investment in infrastructure is badly needed and the dividends have dried up. As they are unlikely to find a minority investor on terms that would be agreeable to the Glazer’s, their only option is probably to sell.Where has this narrative come from? They don't have pressure to sell for financial reasons
Because if it does the Glazers can’t stall and try to extract more from the process. So it will never go away until they see the Qataris sign the official documents.I want to believe that but Ratcliffe's bid just won't seem to ever go away so worried
how do you figure that?Personal profit wise, they've very definitely maximised their money from us.
Performance wise / trophies wise, obviously is a very different story, but even if we'd had mad success it's unlikely the club would be worth what they're imminently going to sell for.
The statement they put out 22nd Nov 2022, to kick-start the process, basically says they need money - either from minority investment or full sale. They subsequently initiated a tender process for the sale of the club. Given they are not prepared to put any of their own money back in, their current position is untenable without additional funding. Major investment in infrastructure is badly needed and the dividends have dried up. As they are unlikely to find a minority investor on terms that would be agreeable to the Glazer’s, their only option is probably to sell.
This has crossed my mind tooMaybe because they are actually doing - nothing
I'm inclined to agree.The Glazers have killed every expectations i had of them selling with how they've deal with the process so far, I've come to the self-acceptance of them being here in 2030 and still not decided on who they want to sell to.
Or… and it’s just a thought… there is no news and the Glazers really are that incompetent.you have to be amazed at how well this process is locked down.
Literally zero information on one of the biggest sporting sales in history. Not a fecking dickie bird!
Impressive in this day and age.
That are basically afew brothers with the intellect of Trump who’s wealth was passed onto them. I think they stay quiet to hide this fact. Complete idiots I’m sure.Or… and it’s just a thought… there is no news and the Glazers really are that incompetent.
Given a sale is more likely this summer than any of the past 10 I think it’s the opposite. If a sale goes through and we buy no one…I’d rather that than get Kane and they stay.What a depressing ass summer
True. I've taken to dudeism to resolve my inner turmoil. I feel like Yellowstone's lava system..bubbling just underneathIs anyone ok? All things considered
An incredibly important summer window to push on under eth. Instead we've made just one signing, heavily linked to another in onana but that's about it. Hardly any major outgoings from our deadwood to really help revamp our squad. Still no end anywhere near sight for club sale, with it being 99.9999 percent certain nothing will be finalized before window ends.Given a sale is more likely this summer than any of the past 10 I think it’s the opposite. If a sale goes through and we buy no one…I’d rather that than get Kane and they stay.
We have Case and if he stops the red cards not many clubs have better than him or a like for like DM replacement. City and Liverpool haven’t improved much yet and even Chelsea? Arsenal yes for sure but it’s very early days yet! We have a bulky squad with everyone fit just need certain key quality players for me to be looking at a step forward in the league. A new keeper, mount and If we can get a striker we’ll be competitive for sure.An incredibly important summer window to push on under eth. Instead we've made just one signing, heavily linked to another in onana but that's about it. Hardly any major outgoings from our deadwood to really help revamp our squad. Still no end anywhere near sight for club sale, with it being 99.9999 percent certain nothing will be finalized before window ends.
So more than likely zero shot to get a DM to actually step up when case is out, who the feck is our number 9 for the year, who's filling in for varane when he's out and being groomed to replace, and our squad is still not remotely suited for a long grueling season. All while our rivals are wheeling and dealing it seems. Idk to me it has been Hella depressing. Which sucks cause I'm a huge fan of eth and how he drug this group across the finish line last season.
I'm almost glad I'm drowning in work as following this absolute tragedy of a share deal combined with our lack of proper acitvitiy in the transfer market really is a mood killerWhat a depressing ass summer