redIndianDevil
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He is the only one other than Bruno who seem capable of creating something. But he still loses possession a lot, seems to run into traffic a lot more.
Yep. One thing is certain, he's better on the left. Last season he did better when starting left then some games like city at home went up top when garnacho came on.Very frustrating performance from Rashford, but we don't win the game without him.
Was the central figure for every goal we scored. Excellent dribbling for two goals and a gorgeous pass to Bruno for the other.
Created the first, massive part in the second, created the winner.Rather than battle and be smart, he'd rather lay on the ground crying for a foul or give away a silly foul. So frustrating as others have pointed out.
The problem is though, does his strengths outweigh his weaknesses. Would we be better off having someone who actually tries to press, doesn't run down an alley every 5 minutes but maybe doesn't get the assist? That's the big question about Rashford for me, and to a lesser extent Bruno. Only caveat is at least with Bruno you know he's going to give 100% every game.He is the only one other than Bruno who seem capable of creating something. But he still loses possession a lot, seems to run into traffic a lot more.
So? His overall performance was still well below standard. If he was smarter with/without the ball he'd be world class.Created the first, massive part in the second, created the winner.
But aye, he’d rather just lay down crying.
Yes in games we struggle everyone this the same thing. But at the moment we don’t have anyone else.The problem is though, does his strengths outweigh his weaknesses. Would we be better off having someone who actually tries to press, doesn't run down an alley every 5 minutes but maybe doesn't get the assist? That's the big question about Rashford for me, and to a lesser extent Bruno. Only caveat is at least with Bruno you know he's going to give 100% every game.
It’s why I said Ole was a terrible thing for this club. Most of the players stagnated during the period he was here and whatever world class potential they might have had, it was all gone by the time he got sacked because they were all stuck and developed a lazy attitude.This is the big issue. He's arguably improved in doing what he could do at 19. But he still can't do anything else. He hasn't developed any other aspect of his game after all this time.
What he had at 19 combined with a player that was capable of becoming better off the ball, better passing, better defensively, better in terms of upper body strength- or whichever additional strings to their bows that young players add as they mature to make them more rounded contributiors to the team effort, would see him be a fairly formidable player now. But none of that has happened.
Hand on heart who can say Rashford has added a single one. I'm not sure it's appreciated how unusual that is for someome many claim to be a top player, to have not developed a single additional attribute from his debut season.
Involved in all 3 goals, but can't make decisions?He is infuriating as hell. His decision making is as pants as it gets. He goes into a speed dribble within the box, again head down. This low percentage stuff rarely comes off but again, he will be talked about as a good dribbler. I don't get it with him - I don't think, he is being coached into the right direction.
Certainly i think the club in general played a role in why Rashford's workrate is so poor now. At a time when a good manager would be keeping his feet on the ground and ensuring he worked hard, he was being treated as the successor to George Best and Eric Cantona rolled into one with the advantage of being a home-grown talent.It’s why I said Ole was a terrible thing for this club. Most of the players stagnated during the period he was here and whatever world class potential they might have had, it was all gone by the time he got sacked because they were all stuck and developed a lazy attitude.
Are we classing being fouled a 'decision' now? I guess if it counts as an assist, why not?Involved in all 3 goals, but can't make decisions?
Played a key role in our comeback but feck me he's so weak, whimpy and petulant.
Not sure where I said it was an assist, but without his movement with the ball into the box, we'd certainly not have gotten the penalty.Certainly i think the club in general played a role in why Rashford's workrate is so poor now. At a time when a good manager would be keeping his feet on the ground and ensuring he worked hard, he was being treated as the successor to George Best and Eric Cantona rolled into one with the advantage of being a home-grown talent.
Are we classing being fouled a 'decision' now? I guess if it counts as an assist, why not?
It's possible for attacking players to contribute with goals and assists and not be dreadful in practically every other element of the game.
We're gonna keep having this conversation forever. Some people are happy with the decisive contributions but others want us to play better football. The latter isn't possible when one of our best players start most game with the intensity of a 45-year-old in a charity game.Are we classing being fouled a 'decision' now? I guess if it counts as an assist, why not?
It's possible for attacking players to contribute with goals and assists and not be dreadful in practically every other element of the game.
He was involved in all 3 goals. I find it so bizarre that rather than focus on the positive the majority in this thread come out with the negative. Antony tracked back today and pressed okay but not much else, he didn’t have any assists or goals but Rashford is singled out as the ‘problem’.
I am not sure what constitutes a "weird" mentality since it is a subjective concept but I am pretty sure that the snowflake "mentally weak" "be content with mediocrity" "mercenary" culture has plagued our team in the last few years and that is why we have fallen behind so much, and we have a fanbase (perhaps you included) that is too lenient and indulging, giving our players and the board a almost free pass.He was involved in all 3 goals. I find it so bizarre that rather than focus on the positive the majority in this thread come out with the negative. Antony tracked back today and pressed okay but not much else, he didn’t have any assists or goals but Rashford is singled out as the ‘problem’.
There were moments in yesterdays game where Rashford was back at left back winning the ball but they’re overlook in favour of showing a clip of him failing at something.
Such a weird mentality.
Thank you for this. Totally agree.He was involved in all 3 goals. I find it so bizarre that rather than focus on the positive the majority in this thread come out with the negative. Antony tracked back today and pressed okay but not much else, he didn’t have any assists or goals but Rashford is singled out as the ‘problem’.
There were moments in yesterdays game where Rashford was back at left back winning the ball but they’re overlook in favour of showing a clip of him failing at something.
Such a weird mentality.
Definitely in the latter camp. If we took everything positive he gave to the team away and put in someone who in terms of statistical output by way of goals and assists didn't contribute as much but meant the team weren't effectively playing with 9 outfield players for 80% of games in 80% of the season it would greatly benefit the cause.We're gonna keep having this conversation forever. Some people are happy with the decisive contributions but others want us to play better football. The latter isn't possible when one of our best players start most game with the intensity of a 45-year-old in a charity game.
Agreed. Two Antony's on either wing last year and we would have been fighting with City and Arsenal I'll go one further bring back Dan James and the champions league would have been United's.Definitely in the latter camp. If we took everything positive he gave to the team away and put in someone who in terms of statistical output by way of goals and assists didn't contribute as much but meant the team weren't effectively playing with 9 outfield players for 80% of games in 80% of the season it would greatly benefit the cause.
If he had held his back instead of his leg then I’m sure there would be endless posts saying he is still playing with his back problems. Actually he did exactly when he made no attempt at jumping to the ball and failed miserably against Spurs and people already suggested his back issues again
The only 2 players in the world clearly better than him from the left are Mbappe and Vinicius.Just typical Rashford really. He’s much better on the left. His general play and decision making is absolutely appalling. Without him we don’t get the breakthrough because he created with moments of magic.
Overall though, he’s probably one of the biggest obstacles we have with playing dominating, controlling football because he simply turns over the ball at an unsustainable rate. I still think our whole team would be more productive with someone better there.
It’s doubtful if Vinicius even is either presently. I’d love to see how he’d get on if we started moving him from LW to CF and back again because we had not got the proper quality in the squad, whilst expecting him to get 25-30GA.The only 2 players in the world clearly better than him from the left are Mbappe and Vinicius.
So good luck finding someone better there. He's 1 of only 2 players in our squad who are supremely productive too.
Not it’s not ffs. Rashford isn’t even fit to lace Vinicius boots. It’s not all about output, just watch them both and it isn’t even close.It’s doubtful if Vinicius even is either presently. I’d love to see how he’d get on if we started moving him from LW to CF and back again because we had not got the proper quality in the squad, whilst expecting him to get 25-30GA.