I don't see the point in sacking him. Who are we getting to replace him? If there was a decent alternative, you could do it, but there isn't.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He is a terrible manager & a diva.
No he wouldn’t. He’d find it more difficult, obviously, but he wouldn’t fail in this manner.
This.
Yep, third goal killed us. At 0-2 we just needed one goal to make them nervous, OT would've carried us to the end.
Murtough has to go. There's no argument towards keeping someone as incompetent as he is at the job. He's everything a director of football is not, has absolutely no idea what he's doing alongside offering the club / the business no direction.
Rashford is such an important player, but he can’t be allowed to play like he does as the consequences are clear. That’s on Ten Hag.
We don’t create enough, and we concede the same goals over and over like a broken fifa game.
We don’t create enough, and we concede the same goals over and over like a broken fifa game.
It's important to note that you can think he shouldn't be sacked, and still think you've seen enough from him and he's not good enough.
The club ruins every manager that takes the job here. Fans need to save their anger for the owners
Apologise for what exactly? Grow a set of bollocks.
He does not understand that the PL is a physical league not played at walking pace. Eriksen and Casemiro in CM will never work.
Spot on. De Zerbi would look like a bum here. The structures in place at the club are atrocious.
What’s the point in sacking him? We’ll just find ourselves in the exact same position again and the same will happen with the guy after that as well. The cold hard reality is nothing will truly change until the ownership does. Simple as that.
He has not been clearly a better Manchester United manager than Ole. There is no objective way that anyone can say he has, except they are filling in blanks with hope and imagination. We score no goals and are a poor attacking side under Ten Hag. We were a threat under Ole at least, even against good sides, and all of that aside - the league tables will tel you that Ten Hag is not clearly better at all, except having been more heralded when he arrived.
Still keep ….but beginning to have doubts
There's very little evidence he's a top manager. You can make a good case for decent, with his time at Ajax, but what has he shown to be considered a top manager? In the PL now you have the likes of Emery at Villa who's won about 35 Europa Leagues. It's very stiff competition these days.
You might have been right. Don't know if it really was a diamond but it certainly looked a 4-man-midfield without real wingers. Blocked Brighton through the center but put too much emphasis on the fullbacks which aren't great.
Only if he's in a co-manager team with LVG and David Moyes though. The holy trinity.
Too early
give him a couple of weeks
give him a couple of weeks
Keep theres something fundamentally wrong at the club need new owners
I’d wait until Mount and Amrabat start games and see how it goes from there.
He should go for spending so much on Onana and Mount.
We're an awfully run club. But patterns of play and tactics are onnthe coaching staff.
Keep.
I want to wait and see how we do with Amrabat, Mount and Hojlund playing consistently. Not to mention the likes of Varane and Shaw returning on top of that.
If we still look poor after he's had a run of games with near enough everyone available, then, yes, questions need asking. Getting them all fit and available is a big ask in and of itself, though.
I want to wait and see how we do with Amrabat, Mount and Hojlund playing consistently. Not to mention the likes of Varane and Shaw returning on top of that.
If we still look poor after he's had a run of games with near enough everyone available, then, yes, questions need asking. Getting them all fit and available is a big ask in and of itself, though.
That’s exactly what I said to another poster in this thread.
These players in Nagelsmann’s system
He will be given chances to turn it around but given his baffling decisions today, he’s going to hang himself with the rope given to him by the club.
Keep, till christmas
If we sack him whoever we replace him with will do no better. It’ll be the same roundabout. This club has fundamental structural issues that can only be resolved by new ownership.
I know what he meant but Di Zerbi is a much better manager than Potter. Its clear to see.
Now is not the time, but that time may eventually come sooner rather than later, unfortunately.
We need to hire Hansi Flick asap and win CL within honeymoon spell.
Lost faith because of the signings of Antony and Onana. They've had Ten Hag's fingerprints all over them and neither is good enough, particularly for the massive fees we've paid.
I'd not sack him, I'd give him until the end of the season because all our games could have swung the other way but there have been some dire signs.
I'd not sack him, I'd give him until the end of the season because all our games could have swung the other way but there have been some dire signs.
He hasn’t got a clue. I’d bring back Ole at this point.
Need to change everything top to bottom first if we are going to even consider changing the manager. We can’t keep doing the same old shit time and time again. It’s fairly obvious the problems at this club are deep rooted.
I said the same in the lads group chat, we're such a middling team caught between a myriad of different ideas.
Last season we accepted the team wasn't good enough to play the football Ten Hag wants. We changed to being a counter attack side and it worked to a degree.
This season Ten Hag has stated he wants to be the best transition side in the world, yet we get done on counters again and again, and rarely threaten with them ourselves. Plus we don't ever control a game and dictate the tempo so it's certainly not his Ajax style we're trying to implement.
Would Ole or Jose have stayed in their job after losing 7 nil? Sorry but that game still stinks.
Ten Hag will be given this season, he needed Mount, Shaw etc to be available but has had no luck with injuries or other troubles.
He does seem clueless at the moment, horrible start to the season. His 'levels' are no where near the standard required by Manchester United.
But no where near sacking yet.
Ten Hag will be given this season, he needed Mount, Shaw etc to be available but has had no luck with injuries or other troubles.
He does seem clueless at the moment, horrible start to the season. His 'levels' are no where near the standard required by Manchester United.
But no where near sacking yet.
I don't think, he made any mistakes today. Bringing off Hojlund was a bit weird, but who knows about the reason. Think we have been beaten by better drilled and organized team, it happens. Certainly nothing to just throw off the table but doesn't really justify an overreaction for me.
I am worried though, I really don't want him to get under pressure but it is getting warmer out there...
I am worried though, I really don't want him to get under pressure but it is getting warmer out there...
Sack.
He needs another year for me.