Why was it 10 points as well by.the way? How did they settle on that?
Everton deducted 10 points for PSR breach (reduced to 6) | Deducted further 2 points for second breach
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Those clubs should be lawering up right now.
I mean, 6 of you already tried to feck off to the superleague and only got fined 22m in total so why not!
We may still win the league by all other teams being docked points. The Glazer's master plan is paying off
oh look, it’s the cheats, picking on the good guys.
Oh yeah, no doubt there will be a massive compensation battle.
Because your club indulged the Phil Neville stepover phenomena. We ourselves got away with indulging it for a while but, as you can see, it's caught up with us, too.
Ha. fecking hell I’m thick.
City can expect a similar thing then. I mean what is the point? This will hurt Everton more because they’re going to be in a relegation battle, but City? It’ll be minor inconvenience… if anything happens to them at all. I’m glad I’m almost done with football.
I imagine the speed of this is down to Everton holding their hands up and cooperating, they'll be able to eat those points this season I reckon. There's some shit down the bottom this year
Chelseas new owners seem keen to take this option too
Just shows you how obstructive city are being that the first club mentioned is still the one miles away from any kind of action coming to the fore. They'll wait it out, them deep pockets will win out unfortunately
Chelseas new owners seem keen to take this option too
Just shows you how obstructive city are being that the first club mentioned is still the one miles away from any kind of action coming to the fore. They'll wait it out, them deep pockets will win out unfortunately
Couldnt have happened in a better season with all 3 promoted clubs looking out of their depth. Theyre only 2 points from safety.
The great injustice of all of this type of stuff is when you look had who has been affected by what the league has determined to be cheating. Leicester are in the championship now. City stole titles. The sport is terribly undermined
The great injustice of all of this type of stuff is when you look had who has been affected by what the league has determined to be cheating. Leicester are in the championship now. City stole titles. The sport is terribly undermined
It’ll be a mess. Doubt they’ll want money over their loss of their PL place.
You would think this will start a whole load of legal cases.
Clubs relegated in 21/22, Leeds who finished behind them and all would have lost out on prize money etc. Those relegated last season as well.
Clubs relegated in 21/22, Leeds who finished behind them and all would have lost out on prize money etc. Those relegated last season as well.
Well deserved. Teams have went down that may well have stayed up because of them. Bring them all knot line, the but City hand wringing doesn’t wash with me
Would be a less stressful period I’m sure and force some stability. Todd would go crazy having to shut his chequebook for a window
Wrote yesterday in the Chelsea-related thread I think it's possible the club are already anticipating some kind of transfer / registration ban and that may have played a part in being so willing to spend heavily in the short term for both immediate first teamers as well as promising youngsters to be developed elsewhere.
With the amount of transfers we've done in the last year or so I honestly don't see a huge need to continue the heavy spending with or without a ban. Our squad building is currently more or less 'finished' and right now the best course of action is to just be patient and see who cuts it at the required level and who doesn't, without interrupting the flow too much with big changes to the squad. We've got some really promising young players in the first team already and then there's also the development group (Angelo, Casadei, Santos, Washington, Hutchinson, Kendry etc.) where we could eventually end up getting further reinforcements if some players in the squad start looking like they could need replacing and few of the loanees have performed well enough to be considered for a role.
If the club were offered a choice between a points deduction or a transfer ban as potential punishment for breaking the rules, I'd pick the latter any time. And seeing as how the current owners have self-reported most of the dodgy stuff already and are co-operating with the investigation instead of just flat out denying everything it's very much a possibility they could be able to have some input in what the potential punishment could end up being.
If you finished within a point of Everton then one could argue that the £19.5M unallowable delta across 3 seasons resulted in them skipping the jump ahead of you.
If you finished 10 points behind, lawyers will take your money but good luck arguing that in court.
If it can be appealed I'd be surprised if it isn't reduced to 6ish points. 10 just seems far too excessive for one breach of rules, considering since that breach we have had our finances and transfer business monitored strictly by the PL in an effort to comply and conduct in good faith. No doubt we deserve punishment but the punishment feels a bit excessive for the crime.
Portsmouth only received a nine point deduction and they went into administration.
It’s ridiculous the shit City are allowed to get away with. Different rules for them.
you want to hope you have an easy team to beat
Why would they approach it from the arbitrary nature of points docked now and not purely from the angle of a cheating entity impacting on everything that happened during their campaign with them?
They cheated; we did not. We were relegated; they were not. We’ve been in purgatory ever since; they have had all of the benefits of being in the PL ever since.
There should be a shitstorm coming, but there probably won’t be because those clubs can’t afford to have cases run for an indefinite period of time due to cost.
Would be really funny if you did that, and then were then deducted 30pts and relegated.
Just looked at the table, they should still be fine to stay up.
What about 115 charges FC then?
Still ongoing.
Beat Man Utd next weekend and they're out of the relegation zone. They'll be fine.
The three teams who came up this year are so shit, Everton would probably need to be docked at least 20 points to actually go down. Good timing for them.
Of course City and Chelsea won't even get a 'punishment' like this for doing orders of magnitude worse. It's possible Chelsea get hit with something now that they have (relatively) normal owners, but the government won't allow a club owned by a fecking nation state that we do big business with to actually be held accountable.
Of course City and Chelsea won't even get a 'punishment' like this for doing orders of magnitude worse. It's possible Chelsea get hit with something now that they have (relatively) normal owners, but the government won't allow a club owned by a fecking nation state that we do big business with to actually be held accountable.
It would be interesting to hear from PL officials what is taking them so long to punish City on 115 charges. But on Everton's case it was like super sonic speed.
If Everton is deducted 10 points we should multiple it with X-115 times for city = 1150 points. This is equivalent to approximately City need to spend at least 10 years in 2nd or 3rd tier English football. That's about right!
If Everton is deducted 10 points we should multiple it with X-115 times for city = 1150 points. This is equivalent to approximately City need to spend at least 10 years in 2nd or 3rd tier English football. That's about right!
Exactly.
It would take 115 times longer.
They are so lucky!
Two years ago they stayed up by four points. Last season they survived by two points.
Because it's 1 charge and Everton didn't contest it.
Chelsea and City next.
Have you looked at the table? They're only 2 points behind Luton even with a 10 point deduction
The "115" part of "115 charges" should be a bit of a hint, no?
Because you don’t have oil overlords as owner.
Was it?
or did they bottle giving them the deduction when they should have done, i.e. last year which would have relegated them
You may well be right you know. would go some way to explaining the activity in the market.
I’m seeing a lot coming out now of possible relegation now though for Chelsea and City?
I can see Chelsea being punished because its evil Putin.
City will be let off on some technicality.
City will be let off on some technicality.