The "115" part of "115 charges" should be a bit of a hint, no?
Everton deducted 10 points for PSR breach (reduced to 6) | Deducted further 2 points for second breach
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Because you don’t have oil overlords as owner.
Was it?
or did they bottle giving them the deduction when they should have done, i.e. last year which would have relegated them
You may well be right you know. would go some way to explaining the activity in the market.
I’m seeing a lot coming out now of possible relegation now though for Chelsea and City?
I can see Chelsea being punished because its evil Putin.
City will be let off on some technicality.
City will be let off on some technicality.
Look again big boy, it's 2 points.They’re 5 points off 17th
I wish, but still think they'll survive over Sheffield United Luton and Burnley. Cockroaches they are!
An interesting part of the document I found is that the FA suspended Gylfi, I always thought it was us.
Exactly. If anything they've done well to move the deduction into a year it won't be a game changer.
Like those bastard Derby cheats that cost Wycombe their championship place.
Yeah don’t worry, I already replied about how thick that was
Maybe not being able to count was the reason I stopped playing fantasy football.
I'm talking about what would hold up in court.
Re: bolded, true, and also, there's a high possibility that their case would get thrown out in court. You have to prove that Everton's cheating adversely impacted you, beyond your own actions.
Don't worry pal.Yeah don’t worry, I already replied about how thick that was
Maybe not being able to count was the reason I stopped playing fantasy football.
Look on the positive, if Chelsea, City and a few other clubs get these decent sizes deductions, we might scrape the top 5
I could be wrong but City's cases were already on the radar for much longer especially they went to European court and got cleared of the charges only due to the evidences were time bar.
Khaldoon also came out to speak to the media and laughed off the PL 115 charges. Khaldoon is always full of confidence because he knows he has the right connections and also a team of world class lawyers at his service.
I would have thought that PL would like to make them as an example to all other clubs. But feck me, Everton with 1 charges? Big fish?
So city will be docked 1150 points then I guess.
It's good to see the FA actually tackling a big club like this in Everton.
They've spent years dishing big deductions and fines to minnows, like Luton (30 points one year!), Macclesfield, Bury, Reading, numerous other champ clubs.
Two of them even being kicked out of their leagues.
It’s definitely the best season to get points docked - they’ll be out of the bottom 3 by Xmas.
Might as well just delete their club. It's the only reasonable outcome. Alternatively we could relegate them to the lowest possible division and see them spend a decade clawing their way back up. Maybe that's funnier?
The FA didn't impose this on us, an independent commission did.
They’ll be rioting. City getting away with it and they get done.
All this has done is to show that City will probably be punished for just one season, whilst breaking rules for several seasons. If you win the league 5 times, aided by financial manipulation, then it'll surely be worth it if you're only deducted a handful of points for one season. This is more of a deterrent only to the clubs hovering around the bottom of the table.
Going by this Man City should be probably be forced to close down.
Delete the club and uninstall Etihad with immediate effect, think could be slightly funnier, mainly because after one month nobody would remember.
Everton have cooperated and admitted their guilt whereas City are still denying the charges and pretending that everything they have done is all above board.
I see a lot of clamour suggesting that the point deduction is harsh and excessive. While I don't personally have enough information to make that call, I hope that it doesn't get completely removed or reduced to a miniscule level. Purely from the point of view of seeing City suffer from a blatant disregard of the laws.
Maybe that's the best way to go about it.
City are getting that point deduction any day now...
feck that, I want relegation and titles being stripped.
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From my limited understanding of it, I can see arguments for both sides (it being too lenient or too harsh).
Portsmouth literally fell into administration and only received a 9 point deduction.
On the other hand, it could be argued that their spending beyond their means has seen clubs relegated for two seasons on the bounce that would have otherwise remained in the Premier League.
City will probably get relegated, eventually. We could be for the high jump as well given our spending and probable lack of CL money.
Ultimately I think the rules are stupid and designed to simply entrench the same clubs forever.
Ultimately I think the rules are stupid and designed to simply entrench the same clubs forever.
I wonder how much City's failure to comply post-2018 is delaying this too.
No idea. I assume they must have a plan B if things don't pan out the way they intended this season. But maybe not. Who knows?
Shite for Everton. Can they appeal it?
The league has set this precedent now. They'll have to follow up with something more punitive for years of cheating.
The league has set this precedent now. They'll have to follow up with something more punitive for years of cheating.
Certainly harsh, but fair in spirit of the rules.
The wider football community will obviously be raging about the fact another club isn’t as forthcoming, denies 115 charges and is simply left to carry on sweeping up trophies without any real issue.
The wider football community will obviously be raging about the fact another club isn’t as forthcoming, denies 115 charges and is simply left to carry on sweeping up trophies without any real issue.
Only 22 points off top 4.They’re 5 points off 17th
I think so too. They're still ahead of Burnley on goal difference after the deduction.
Shame Everton don’t have access to City’s brown enveloped lawyers.
Deeper pockets, more expensive lawyers than PL and UEFA.
That's just scandal mongering of the Daily Mail for you. Wouldn't expect any different from that bunch tbf.
I honestly don't see how our potential case with the Abramovich-related payments is in any way similar to the +100 FFP charges on Man City and therefore I don't see how the punishments should be in any way relatable either.
The latest articles about Chelsea mention a handful of dodgy transactions being made to agents over a time period of more than a decade. The amounts we're talking about there are what, 20M total over who knows how many years? Overall the club's revenues and expenditures in that time period is in the billions so the amounts are but a drop in the ocean. If there's some rules that have been broken (likely) then some form of punishment is fair enough but it's sure as feck not going to be relegation.