He should be used as a no 10 version of Fellaini ie when you need a goal.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Goals
- 10
- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 3
Diabolical midfielder. Keep him as as far away as possible from our half. Utterlu brainless on when to take pass and receive the ball, can't keep the ball for more than 5 seconds, returns the ball right away to whoever passed to him and is clueless positionally. He'd do well to sell himself as a striker at this point.
Poor, reason why the tactics didn't work at all. The moment it reaches McT or Martial, the move breaks down. If it's not working, fecking sub him out. ETH deserves the shit he is getting for keeping McT always.
Mctominay scoring a few goals is the same as hitting the crack pipe feeling good. Sure, you feel blissful for a few hours but when the high wears off you realize you’re standing butt naked at a traffic junction eating rats out of a trash can.
He's not a midfielder, I don't know what he is but not a midfielder. I've never seen a midfielder so little involved in possession. Him playing leaves a huge gap open on midfield, he's a definite liability to play, doesn't matter how many goals he scores he should be playing on midfield.
He scored a few goals, but in general play he's awful, a passenger.
Not just a passenger. Actually a negative.
Can we end this fecking madness now?
His goals in previous matches totally hide how awful his game is overall.
We need to solidify the middle and if he has to play for his goals he needs to be pushed forward into an area he isn't as much of a liability.
We need to solidify the middle and if he has to play for his goals he needs to be pushed forward into an area he isn't as much of a liability.
So much pressure on his midfield partners to have excellent games because he barely contributes when not scoring.
Another poor midfield performance, this time he didnt get a few goals to make up for it
Garner couldn't get a game ahead of this guy. Let that sink in. He's one of the most protected footballer at this club and it's evident he is nowhere near good enough. The fact that managers like him tells you how fecking toxic that dressing room is, beacuse it certainly isn't for his ability as a footballer.
Felt exactly the same. Tried to shoot every time he got near the box. His from the ball whenever it was in our own half.
Problem is he has to score every single game otherwise his selection is completely pointless. The midfield is wide open. Amrabat, Mainoo or Casemiro in that sitting role will be fighting a lost cause
I mean it’s amateur level tactics from the manager, I’ve never coached a team in my life but can see 100% that the midfield balance is non existent yet he’s trying to persist with it
I mean it’s amateur level tactics from the manager, I’ve never coached a team in my life but can see 100% that the midfield balance is non existent yet he’s trying to persist with it
Well you don't get benched when you score two winning goals in previous game. That is understandable, even though everybody knows McT offers nothing outside of goals
Can't blame Erik for starting him. However, today he was obviously shit and should have been subbed at half-time. Not doing so is on Erik.
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Sorry to be that guy but some very simple passing stats from our three midfield players today:
Sofyan Amrabat:
Sofyan Amrabat:
- Passes Completed: 74
- Completion Percentage: 91.9%
- Passes Completed: 85
- Completion Percentage: 84.7%
- Passes Completed: 42
- Completion Percentage: 85.7%
Exactly. I mean we may as well go 442 and play 2 strikers
Goals has hid his deficiencies.....
He's incredibly selfish and self-indulgent. He's that player in your team you never want to pass the ball into in the final third because he'll just want to shoot.
Absolutely criminal performance today. He abandoned the midfield, shot at every poor opportunity and when he did get on the ball, fecked up several counters.
Ten Hag has to take a lot of the blame for letting him get away with it.
Ten Hag has to take a lot of the blame for letting him get away with it.
Is anyone surprised? He has been poor for a while but gets covered by his goals. Good thing is that the manager only seems to care about that
Its more than that though because at the start of the season we had Mount in and McTom wasnt. And it was the same thing, Mount was getting forward from midfield ahead of the ball and quiet because of it. The only difference is that McTom has actually scored goals. So sometimes this season he had an end product, while Mount didnt.
Unfortunately it shows that this is what ETH wants. He wants an extra midfield player getting forward near the attack in front of the ball and picking it up in dangerous areas. We havent figured out how to do that using the GK, defenders and 1 midfielder when that other midfielder gets in front of the ball. The wide players obviously get involved too and we work down the sides. But yeah to most people watching it would be far simpler to have 2 CMs sitting deep and spreading the play from there to the attacking players.
If McTominay is going to continue playing, which I don't think is the best decision, then it has to be instead of Bruno.
As far as I'm concerned, McTominay, Bruno, Eriksen, Mount and Van de Beek are competing for the same spot. The most advanced of a middle three. Playing any two of them in a three man midfield is tantamount to suicide. Even when it went 'well' last season with Bruno and Eriksen, any team that with a bit of physicality could shut down Eriksen for large periods.
If McTominay is going to play, just let him make third man runs into the box.
As far as I'm concerned, McTominay, Bruno, Eriksen, Mount and Van de Beek are competing for the same spot. The most advanced of a middle three. Playing any two of them in a three man midfield is tantamount to suicide. Even when it went 'well' last season with Bruno and Eriksen, any team that with a bit of physicality could shut down Eriksen for large periods.
If McTominay is going to play, just let him make third man runs into the box.
The only way I can see him ever actually being useful.
At a bottom half club....not United.
Yeah after your post, I was looking at the Mount passing stats for early United matches, and it is the same thing as you said. I mean I knew the gap was always there when defending, but he also had a substantial less amount of passes compared to Bruno and Casemiro.
These are the tactics Ten Hag wants. The Mount signing will be his undoing. It came along with these tactics and there is no going back with Ten Hag. At this point, I'm thinking what other managers are doing this tactic, and why don't they have the same problems as us?
Scoring a few goals hides how fecking bad he actually is
There's two separate things here.
Yes, ETH does want this general midfield set up with one sitting and two getting forward. That in itself is bad enough and it is completely on ETH.
However, surely ETH doesn't want the player in that position to basically take themselves out of the game, jogging around and doing significantly below the bare minimum to help the team as a whole. It is so utterly ridiculous. Mount I gave the benefit of the doubt that he was in a new team, had missed most of the second half of last season, was in-and-out of the team through injury, and is actually a #10 by trade so we were asking him to play a different role. I hoped that with time he would improve that balance. Whereas Scott...well, this is who he is. He's always someone who's biggest weaknesses are the most important fundamentals of being a midfielder. And in fact, other than being a decent goal threat, he is otherwise even worse in this position than he is when playing deeper.
Donny played that role at Ajax. The invisible but scoring midfielder. It works when the other two players can dominate the midfield and dictate play but that isnt the case with Bruno + whoever. However i do think that Mount would be an improvement over McT in his tactic where a midfielder becomes an extra attacker. Mount can score but is also much better at football than McT.
In theory you're right there again the treble squad had Phil Neville in it. McT is very average but he's got an eye for goal which would allow us to switch the game (from a high possession game to a direct one) in an instant. That's quite an asset. Ole transformed from a very capable 4th choice striker to a legend and someone who could be trusted with managing the club thanks to one goal in a key game. That happened because Bayern grew complacent (removing Matthaus was silly especially since it left Magui erm Kuffour on his own but also because Teddy/Ole brought a different style of football to Yorke/Cole which threw Bayern into panic.
Disgraceful for the first goal....SELL HIM!!!!
Ten Hag will sack himself by his continued selection of McTominay in midfield. Goals scored should not mask that and it's not just his poor pass completion but not dropping back and giving the defence the protection it needs.
He is not a very good footballer but at least his goals are factual so while he will never be good enough to be a starter for a better team I cannot give him the same amount of stick as others.
Considering our forwards can't score for sht what choice does Ten Haag have?
So, what’s your opinion about today then? Curious
Part of it comes from gimping Bruno in this weird no.8 role where he does more out of possession and in knitting play than McTominay. I have my fair share of complaints about the guy but he’s still our best creative outlet and moving him further from goal doesn’t help.
I’ll never get the line of argument that just because EtH wants the 2nd 8 to make late runs into the box to score somehow absolves whoever play that position from shit passes and nonexistent defensive work. Scholes scored his fair share from the same situation, or from hanging at the edge of the box, didn’t stop him from running a game.
Play Mainoo and Amrabat with Bruno/McT as no 10
We should sell him in January while his stock is high