Club Sale | It’s done!

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Berbaclass

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Agree with this.

Martial, Varane, Reguilon, Sancho all getting moved on in January signals intent to clear things up.

Looks like INEOS is starting to have an influence to me.

 

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Agree with this.

Martial, Varane, Reguilon, Sancho all getting moved on in January signals intent to clear things up.

Looks like INEOS is starting to have an influence to me.

So I'm assuming Casemiro, Rashford, Mount, Antony, Maguire and Eriksen will be moved on as well then. None of them deserve the wages they are on.
 

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Maybe I'm wrong but I thought this was standard anyway - managers can veto.
No manager should have veto if your club is built around a sporting structure, your manager should be considered a coach and to fit into the clubs philosophy, We shouldnt be buying players to suit a manager they should fit the club the club should also look for managers to fit that style.
 

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No manager should have veto if your club is built around a sporting structure, your manager should be considered a coach and to fit into the clubs philosophy, We shouldnt be buying players to suit a manager they should fit the club the club should also look for managers to fit that style.
Some fans will never learn. Managers can manage or get lost.
 

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I wonder which transfers he actually vetoed?

I'm sure he doesn't want a revolving door of players like Chelsea, but he must realise that this new recruitment team is being set-up to help him and it must be a collaborative process from now on or he surely will be binned off.
 

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No manager should have veto if your club is built around a sporting structure, your manager should be considered a coach and to fit into the clubs philosophy, We shouldnt be buying players to suit a manager they should fit the club the club should also look for managers to fit that style.
It’s been called the Klopp rule when first reported. It’s normal. You can’t have the manager being tasked with say left wingers when the team needs a FB.
What we need are quality DOF that are in sync with the manager
 

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Erik will just have to confirm whether he has previously worked with the player before agreeing to any transfers
 

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People are taking this as if there will be a huge argument every time we want to sign a new player with ten Hag vetoing several options we present to him in order to get someone he's familiar with instead :lol:
 

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Seems they are already addressing the bloated contracts and profligacy. Of course, a football structure will not ensure against a dud purchase, but at least some of the money madness will end.
 

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No, Eric. We tried that and it’s not good enough. Time for us to adapt to a long term strategy even if there’s inevitable teething issues. Incremental improvements is way better than lurching from 3rd to not arsed every second season
Is a veto structure normal? Genuine question. Can imagine it working if the footballing folk at United can challenge the manager with better alternatives.
 

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Is a veto structure normal? Genuine question. Can imagine it working if the footballing folk at United can challenge the manager with better alternatives.
Hey Eric you can’t have (insert Ajax player here) and we won’t be signing Modric for 60 million but we have some shit hot kid from the french league who looks like the next Kante. Sound! I don’t see the manager surviving this season though either way. I think they will decimate the squad and wage structure and backroom and start again from scratch (I hope they do anyway)
 

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Hey Eric you can’t have (insert Ajax player here) and we won’t be signing Modric for 60 million but we have some shit hot kid from the french league who looks like the next Kante. Sound! I don’t see the manager surviving this season though either way. I think they will decimate the squad and wage structure and backroom and start again from scratch (I hope they do anyway)
Not gonna happen, just sack him. They are not hiring Ashworth and Mitchell to buy the players Ten Hag knows from the Eredivisie.

It's so funny that once again the popular opinion has become some nonsense load of shit that's far from the truth. Predictable.
 

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It's so funny that once again the popular opinion has become some nonsense load of shit that's far from the truth. Predictable.
So I guess you don’t see any problems coming up with the new structure Ineos will come up with and the way Ten Hag did things the last 18 months? You say the truth is everything will be fine?
 

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In what way? Say what you really feel :lol:
Yours was like the 5th post I read today that implies ETH will veto every transfer target presented to him in order to sign someone he's previously worked with and/or plays in the Eredivisie.

It doesn't work like that. He wanted to sign Kane. He didn't veto Hojlund. He didn't veto Casemiro. He wasn't going to veto Rice if we just waited a year for him. He wasn't going to stop us from pursuing Caicedo if Chelsea were not going to let Mount join us. There needs to be a vision in which the manager, sporting director, scouting department, etc. all have aligning vision and they will identify targets together. In a good setup where everyone is on the same page, there will very rarely (if ever) be disagreements which end in the manager overruling a new player's arrival.
 

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Yours was like the 5th post I read today that implies ETH will veto every transfer target presented to him in order to sign someone he's previously worked with and/or plays in the Eredivisie.

It doesn't work like that. He wanted to sign Kane. He didn't veto Hojlund. He didn't veto Casemiro. He wasn't going to veto Rice if we just waited a year for him. He wasn't going to stop us from pursuing Caicedo if Chelsea were not going to let Mount join us. There needs to be a vision in which the manager, sporting director, scouting department, etc. all have aligning vision and they will identify targets together. In a good setup where everyone is on the same page, there will very rarely (if ever) be disagreements which end in the manager overruling a new player's arrival.
But that is not the situation Ten Hag signed for when he came to United. He said himself he wouldn’t come if he couldn’t decide the transfers. It will be different with Ineos and that will give problems and tension.
 
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