I think they'll go for someone relatively young, charismatic , hugely ambitious and who's philosophy on the game will align with theirs, while being comfortable in this potential set-up and may have history in the PL already.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I think they'll go for someone relatively young, charismatic , hugely ambitious and who's philosophy on the game will align with theirs, while being comfortable in this potential set-up and may have history in the PL already.
Yeah, I can picture it being De Zerbi, I think Alonso will go Leverkusen.I think they'll go for someone relatively young, charismatic , hugely ambitious and who's philosophy on the game will align with theirs, while being comfortable in this potential set-up and may have history in the PL already.
Pep seems a very big admirer of De Zerbi, beyond the usual praise he throws out when asked about other players or managers. He actually seems to like his football. If that's the case then or new CEO will likely have him on our radar.
I'm not even saying top 4, I'm saying it should be good enough to play decent football
Feels like a lateral move for Xabi.
Sebastian Hoeneß is also worth a closer look.
Oh I'd 100% support this move.I think they'll go for someone relatively young, charismatic , hugely ambitious and who's philosophy on the game will align with theirs, while being comfortable in this potential set-up and may have history in the PL already.
It looks like he still believes moving an Eredivisie team to the EPL will bring success....Brobbey incoming.
Is that true about de boer?
It was a rumour, but he managed to really fall out with a bunch of the players, especially the defenders, in his short time there. Some snippets:Is that true about de boer?
Bit of a weirdo made me laugh
I read Berradas outlook on managers is if they are not improving the team in two seasons then they are not the right manager, so on that condition he will be gone in the summer, unless we improve dramatically
I dont want to see ETH sacked until the end of the season and only if performances do not improve. On a mischievous note if we are looking for a new manager in the summer how would the people on here feel about Xabi Alonso. Putting aside ill feelings because of his playing career, He has Leverkusen flying in Germany and every manager he has played for speaks about him having an incredible football brain and could be the next great manager with some saying he could be a new Pep. It could be an inspired appointment with the new setup being muted.
I wouldn't mind him with a structure in place that will enable him to replicate at OT what he's currently doing in Leverkusen. The Bundesliga is a great environment for young managers to thrive and make a name for themselves, exactly because they are being trusted by their clubs. And most clubs in Germany are more than willing to embrace new technologies and methods to assist the manager in his job. At United, the refusal to even understand why change is necessary has created an intolerably toxic environment. On here, you get many people suggesting that the manager should have minimal input in who comes and goes (can't blame them) without even realizing how detrimental this can be to a strategy that has the delegation of duties at its core or how it can steer away possible candidates for the job.
I don't care that he played for Liverpool, either. It's not that we're going after Gerrard. In my eyes, he's one of the best holding midfielders ever, with a skill-set and football brain that allowed him to play for Liverpool, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, and win everything there is with his NT. A classy player on the pitch, very calm, measured, respectful and informative as a manager. He definitely seems like someone who would approach the job with the appropriate respect and without prejudices, if he believes that United are the best option for him. Does he imagine himself getting the big money in the PL by landing the gig at Anfield? He probably does. I also think he'll be disappointed because, the way i see it, Klopp isn't going anywhere. Who knows, if he's as good as people think, perhaps there's a great football story to be written here.
Having said that, i think that, for the time being, INEOS will focus on their network to find solutions. Potter and De Zerbi seem to be the frontrunners, if ETH gets the sack. The latest tweets indicate that our new CEO is familiar with Brighton's model and the managers it "creates". I think they'll start there and look to expand their network rather than going for what may seem like another oddball managerial appointment with zero groundwork behind it.
I'll see where Leverkusen finish this season before lavishing too much praise on them and , more importantly, Alonso.
No doubt he's doing a good job but we've been here before and I'm a little surprised he's already being earmarked as Ancelotti's replacements at Madrid so soon.
I personally think you need to have a big personality to manage a top club, alongside obvious very good managerial capabilities.
I don't think Alonso has much personality, if I'm being honest.
No doubt he's doing a good job but we've been here before and I'm a little surprised he's already being earmarked as Ancelotti's replacements at Madrid so soon.
I personally think you need to have a big personality to manage a top club, alongside obvious very good managerial capabilities.
I don't think Alonso has much personality, if I'm being honest.
Alonso looks as boring as Mauricio Pochettino. Both really good managers mind.
That might not bother him. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Alonso replace Tuchel in München after this season. He has that standing there that they would go for him, and if he wins the league they have a good reason to sack Tuchel. Can still take over Liverpool or Real after that
That's a possibility and a scenario that wouldn't surprise anyone. Although i feel the Bayern Munich job is a tricky one for managers who still have everything to prove at the highest level. You can win a couple of easy league titles to put on your CV, but ultimately, it's the CL campaigns that everyone is looking at for proof. Not even someone as established as Pep has avoided that measure stick. Real Madrid have always been a very particular and idiosyncratic club. Nobody can tell whether they are a good match for each other until they try each other's company. Might go well, might go awry as well. I also believe that a lot of their recent success is down to both Zizou and Carlo keeping as simple as possible. Not exactly the group that would welcome headstrong system managers with open arms. As for Liverpool, i believe that Klopp will retire there. His brand of football is just as perfect for the PL as was Ferguson's back in the day. He'll manage to keep then as top competitors with a few tweaks here and there. Anyway, as i mentioned, i don't think Alonso's on our radar in this transitional period. But it's not always as straightforward as it looks.
Let’s not talk about the season where he lost his best players (DeLigt, Frenkie) and still had 6 wins in CL group phase out of 6.
Me too. I’d happily put up with it if it made me a better player though. I’m afraid today’s players are not.Bit of a weirdo made me laugh
I think the first three PL games after this little break will be make or break for him... I really hope we will see massive improvement after some time to really put some work into the training and work with his players, plus Martinez and Casemiro coming back, and Hojlund who started to show some muscle..
Wolves AWAY, West Ham HOME, Villa AWAY.. I really think we need a minimum of 7 points there for him to keep his seat and play needs to improve..
Then Luton AWAY and Fulham HOME after that just need to be 6 points and convincing wins.. Then you have the City game where you can show how much you have grown .
Wolves AWAY, West Ham HOME, Villa AWAY.. I really think we need a minimum of 7 points there for him to keep his seat and play needs to improve..
Then Luton AWAY and Fulham HOME after that just need to be 6 points and convincing wins.. Then you have the City game where you can show how much you have grown .
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If ETH survives this season and gets a long-term contract, the best I see him doing is finishing within 5 -10 points of the league champions of the next few seasons, whoever it might be. There's just too many flaws in his style over 38 games.
If all the planets and stars align, we might fluke one single PL or CL but I see that as very unlikely.
He's not a bad manager, but he's not really a multiple PL winning one either, even with a good structure behind him.
If all the planets and stars align, we might fluke one single PL or CL but I see that as very unlikely.
He's not a bad manager, but he's not really a multiple PL winning one either, even with a good structure behind him.
There's no chance he's getting 13 points from the next 5 games.
What? That would be a good return and he will be regard as a good manager if Pep and Klopp are still in EPL.
The more realistic question is that if he can even finish within 10 points behind the champions consistently for the next few years.
I feel he must... A minimum of 11 I think is required... We cannot afford losses against West Ham or Spurs and Wolves, Luton, Fulham must be won.. Any other scenario and we would be drifting further away from where we want/need to be..
We're just drifting to the end of the season until he's replaced. It hardly matters at this point.
3 away games in the next 5 will be very few points as we know by now under him.
There's no amount of luck in the world that would ever have him win PL or CL, it just simply is impossible for a coach of his ability and will never happen. If we stick with him it's because we accept top 4 is the goal and we don't actually intend to compete for major trophies.
Worse coaches have won those trophies.
I feel he has an almost unprecendented preperation period for the upcoming series of games with an almost fully available squad.. He should have time now to implement his playing style, rest the players that need rest, work with the players that need attention and work on the team cohesion.. With an almost entirely fully available squad..
He needs to perform and deliver right now, there are hardly any excuses..
You mean like last season? He also had a full squad at the start of the season. What do we think is suddenly going to change? Would love to be proved wrong, but the idea there is going to be some huge metamorphosis in how we play seems unlikely
I think its already decided that he is gone at the end of the season now that top 4 is pretty much gone, Erik is clearly way out of his depth at this level and im suprised he has lasted this long as the abysmul performance against Spurs should have been the last straw.
Still here!
Four more months of this bore and his boring tactics.
Four more months of this bore and his boring tactics.
Not really, they haven't. CL maybe, Di Matteo immediately springs to mind, but that included a huge amount of luck as well.
I still have the feeling he can turn this around.. But being a massive Ajax fan as well and having experienced his impact there as well I'm biased for sure and can hardly blame people who purely judge him on his United stint having lost faith..
Something looks off here.
We've been saying this for some time now. "He needs to do better in the next x games", "if it's that bad at the end of December then sack him" etc, and it's still bad. There's really nothing to suggest things are going to get significantly better in general. Remember, we've been shite for some time now, it's not just this season. He's very likely a caretaker manager now if the new people in charge have any idea what they're doing. He'll probably only get sacked if we drift into near relegation zone. Otherwise, sack him at the end of the season and get someone competent in then.
Casemiro and Martinez returning will hopefully improve things... if not, ETH is in even bigger trouble than he already is.
Not a chance he is here next season. No where near good enough. Not even in the top 10 best managers in the EPL. If Hes best in class its not a Football management class.
Where is the team this week? Are they training abroad like some teams or are they training at Carrington?